Any new Starkville construction projects going on?

Duke Humphrey

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Several along University Drive with one each on both sides of City Bagel (why is the one to the right (towards campus) of City Bagel taking so long?) and one directly across from Bulldog Burger on site of old gas station. Also, new apartments/retail on College View at site of old married housing complex.
 

Arthur2478

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To the left of City Bagel is condos: https://www.destinationgrandj.com
Across from Bulldog Burger is apartments: https://www.thevistastarkville.com/
The development on College View is apartments: http://www.livecollegeview.com/
There is a new building going up across from Bin 612. I believe this is for Two Brothers.
The Midtown development is adding a another building on the Montgomery St. side.
The Rula Engineering & Science Complex building is going up on campus at the corner of Hardy Rd & Morrill Rd.
 

Duke Humphrey

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Good additions. Also, on the corner of Blackjack and Stone/Hail State Blvd in front of the vet school is new Animal, Dairy & Poultry Science Complex (3 buildings)
 

af102

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Wasn't city bagel supposed to move into a new building to be built on their current property? Is that still happening?
 

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Not sure how many people on this board are interested in this, but a Chicken Salad Chick just opened on 12 next to Starbucks and the old CJ’s pizza building (which is still vacant, BTW). Yeah it’s another chain place but that’s better than another empty building.
 

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Indoor tennis facility coming soon but it’ll never be done in time.
 

Duke Humphrey

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Speaking of Blackjack, that whole corridor will soon be redone. The county has drug their feet on getting all the right away secured, but it will tie in with the new eastern loop road that will skirt the eastern boundary of campus from Blackjack to Lee, in addition to covering the ditch along Stone Blvd (by old intramural fields) and taking those a portion of those fields for new parking.
 
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Haven't had one of these in a while.

New Two Brother’s Smoked Meats Restaurant and Bar is coming up at intersection of University and Maxwell directly across from the Bin 612.

It’s going to be more of a great thing with live music and upper and lower balcony seating in the heart of the Cotton District!

I can’t wait!
 
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The Peeper

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A waitress @ Two Brothers current location said that building would be
eventually converted to a pimento cheese sandwich shop. Can you really make a living selling cheese sandwiches?
 

coach66

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The extension of the walking and biking trail that runs down Lynn Lane

will be completed to Campus by August 1st is the plan. It will evenutally run through campus and go through downtown connecting out west somewhere and making a complete loop I believe.
 

coach66

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Commodore Bob's is in the planning stages of opening a full size version, he

told me the location but I'd had a few. It's near the Cotton District.
 

pmack65

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79 zero lot line homes will be going up on south Montgomery across from Sherwood forest. Out by the country club another housing development is going up not sure how many homes but its a large area there working. Also more zero lot line homes going up next to Starkville high baseball field. Not sure where all these people are coming from to buy these homes, regardless there being built.
 

bomanishus

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Speaking of walking trails, has there been anything said or done about converting the railroad right of way from rails to trails? This is the one that crosses Lampkin at the Central Station Grill.
 

coach66

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Haven' heard anything but it makes sense that they might use that old raiload

to complete the trail from campus to downtown. Does the old railroad go west from downtown?
 

GhostOfJackie

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University from the Highway 12 overpass all the way to Downtown is nothing but a big construction project.
 

Palos verdes

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Wasn't there a large scale development planned for somewhere close to the District? They had to move some residents to a new affordable housing project. From what I recall, it was a lifestyle type development.
 

Mjoelner

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Speaking of Blackjack, that whole corridor will soon be redone. The county has drug their feet on getting all the right away secured, but it will tie in with the new eastern loop road that will skirt the eastern boundary of campus from Blackjack to Lee, in addition to covering the ditch along Stone Blvd (by old intramural fields) and taking those a portion of those fields for new parking.

Have you heard a date when this is supposed to start? I read somewhere late last year that just said "spring of 2019". I knew the county had not secured all of the right of way issues as of then. I don't know if this is correct regarding Blackjack Rd but what I've heard is 1. It will be 3-laned all the way from the present round-about to Bardwell Rd. 2. The round-about is going away.

Also, below is the planned map of Bulldog Way which will let Campus Trails and The Pointe connect directly to campus instead of having to get onto Blackjack.
 

bddawg

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79 zero lot line homes will be going up on south Montgomery across from Sherwood forest. Out by the country club another housing development is going up not sure how many homes but its a large area there working. Also more zero lot line homes going up next to Starkville high baseball field. Not sure where all these people are coming from to buy these homes, regardless there being built.
67 lots in the first phase by the country club. Second phase of Adalade is presently started on Montgomery before getting to country club.
 

FQDawg

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Speaking of walking trails, has there been anything said or done about converting the railroad right of way from rails to trails? This is the one that crosses Lampkin at the Central Station Grill.

I asked someone in city government about this a couple of years ago and was basically told that property ownership issues made converting the railroad tracks into a trail extremely unlikely.
 

FQDawg

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Wasn't there a large scale development planned for somewhere close to the District? They had to move some residents to a new affordable housing project. From what I recall, it was a lifestyle type development.

You may be thinking of Pecan Acres on Hwy. 12. It's still being discussed, I believe, but the plan is to move those residents to a new development on Hwy. 182 and then redevelop the site on Hwy. 12.
 

The Fatboy

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What kind of property ownership? Figured that rail line would be owned by the railroad. What do they need with an extinct line?
 

FQDawg

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What kind of property ownership? Figured that rail line would be owned by the railroad. What do they need with an extinct line?

I don't remember the specifics at this point but I do remember being surprised because I had this same thought about the railroad owning the land.
 

FQDawg

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Allow me to rant about Starkville/Oktibbeha County development for a minute...

The absolute dumbest thing the city/county/whoever has done in the last 20 years is allow the new industrial park to be developed on Hwy. 389 north of the bypass. That effectively cuts off any sizable residential development north of the city (because who wants to live near an industrial park) and makes it more likely that the areas down South Montgomery are going to be even more overbuilt.

Traditionally, the industrial part of town has been in the southwest (area near Bryan Field) and it would have been better to extend the industrial area in that direction and even across Hwy. 25 to the Cornerstone Park area. Then you could have developed the area around 389 and the Bypass (and parts east and west of there) into residential areas which would have A) spread people out a bit more so they're not all south of town and B) made residential access to the university (the area's largest employer) more efficient. And putting new neighborhoods there would have also made access to downtown and other parts of Starkville easier for those potential residents... north/south access is covered by 389/Jackson Street, which is mostly four laned, while east/west access is covered by the bypass.
 

Mjoelner

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I have no idea on right of way/easement laws but could it be that the railroad has right of way and as soon as it stops being a railroad it reverts back to individual property owners with the existing property lines? I've seen on several maps where the railroad through Starkville is listed as ABAND which I assume stands for abandoned. I guess the cost of pulling the rails and reusing or selling for scrap cost more than just leaving them in place to rust away.

I always liked the idea of a trolley through town starting around University Drive and going to the western part of town. The major downside is, most of the businesses people would frequent on that side of town are on the wrong side of Hwy 12. Walmart, Academy, theater, Lowes, Penny's, Kroger.....etc. Guess you could go to Autozone, Sonic and the matress store though.
 

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You mean... people who control development and own property down S. Montgomery have taken steps to make their investments more valuable? Shocking.

/that was directed at you.. rather a rhetorical musing.
 

Mjoelner

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The Cornerstone Park area was supposed to be the new super-duper industrial park years ago. That's why the bypass went on the west side of town. The other argument at the time was to build the bypass to the east of town to aid MSU traffic. The western side won and produced an empty industrial park.
 
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To the left of City Bagel is condos: https://www.destinationgrandj.com
Across from Bulldog Burger is apartments: https://www.thevistastarkville.com/
The development on College View is apartments: http://www.livecollegeview.com/
There is a new building going up across from Bin 612. I believe this is for Two Brothers.
The Midtown development is adding a another building on the Montgomery St. side.
The Rula Engineering & Science Complex building is going up on campus at the corner of Hardy Rd & Morrill Rd.


Man I was really hoping that the lot across from Bulldog Burger was going to be made into a bigger bar/club type place. That is what that area needs more of....
 

Duke Humphrey

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Cornerstone was not suitable for manufacturing tenets b/c of the lack of electrical supply and other infrastructure needs, which is why the 389 site was chosen.

However, Cornerstone is the site of the new sportsplex the Mayor is wanting to put in that will be modeled after Vicksburg's and Oxford's FNC Park. Would be an ideal location, and if done right, we would see more hotels come to the area.
 

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Having done title work on abandoned rail lines, I can tell you that 1) it was not uncommon for the deeds to the railroad to have a reversionary clause in them; 2) at times all the railroad got was an easement across the land, the owners of the land then conveyed the land, less and except the railroad. 1 & 2 result in the land being owned by the heirs of the person who made the conveyance to the railroad (depending on how long ago that happened, there could be hundreds of owners of a 60' strip of land 1/10 of a mile long; 3) every railroad in the country has been through bankruptcy at least once and that always complicates title issues; 4) there are usually huge gaps in title that cannot be filled by examination of the land records in a particular county, due to mergers, acquisitions, name changes, etc. that never got recorded in that county.
 

FQDawg

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Having done title work on abandoned rail lines, I can tell you that 1) it was not uncommon for the deeds to the railroad to have a reversionary clause in them; 2) at times all the railroad got was an easement across the land, the owners of the land then conveyed the land, less and except the railroad. 1 & 2 result in the land being owned by the heirs of the person who made the conveyance to the railroad (depending on how long ago that happened, there could be hundreds of owners of a 60' strip of land 1/10 of a mile long; 3) every railroad in the country has been through bankruptcy at least once and that always complicates title issues; 4) there are usually huge gaps in title that cannot be filled by examination of the land records in a particular county, due to mergers, acquisitions, name changes, etc. that never got recorded in that county.

This sounds a little like what I was told, especially the part the railroad not actually owning the land.
 

WrapItDog

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Allow me to rant about Starkville/Oktibbeha County development for a minute...

The absolute dumbest thing the city/county/whoever has done in the last 20 years is allow the new industrial park to be developed on Hwy. 389 north of the bypass. That effectively cuts off any sizable residential development north of the city (because who wants to live near an industrial park)

A lot of acreage north of Starkville and along Hwy 389 in that bottom is rated as a flood zone. Who wants to pay flood insurance and live in a flood zone.
 

FQDawg

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Cornerstone was not suitable for manufacturing tenets b/c of the lack of electrical supply and other infrastructure needs, which is why the 389 site was chosen.

I frankly don't understand this. Cornerstone already has some development and that area is relatively close to the larger commercial concerns in town (Wal-Mart, Kroger, etc...) so I find it hard to believe infrastructure was/is a huge impediment to industrial development in that area.

Conversely, the 389 site is basically rural AF so I find it hard to believe that electrical and other infrastructure isn't an issue there.
 
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