Any Mob/Mob Movie Buffs here?

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Just wondering if anybody else has been keeping up with the insane amount of national mob new right now. If you like movies like Goodfellas, Donnie Brasco or Casino, the info in movies like that comes from CIs and/or trials. Right now there are 3 very interesting cases all set to run in the near future.

The first is Vinny Assaro whose roots go back to the movie Goodfellas. He shared territory with the Paul Vario crew and was a part of the Lufthansa heist made famous in the movie. In 2015 he was brought to trial for the Luthansa heist some 40 years later and was acquitted. One would think the 80 year old mobster would relax and sail off in to the social club in the sky but you would be wrong. He is set for trial this year for arson and armed robbery. What sparked this whole deal was he was cut off in traffic and instead of letting it slide he decided to torch the guy's car. To make it even more interesting, one of his co-defendants is John Gotti's grandson who is now apparently affiliated with the Bonnano family and not the Gambino's. The 82 year old was recently denied bail for allegedly conspiring to kill the prosecutor. This guy is not your regular grandpa.

The second is that of Skinny Joey Merlino, the young Don of Philly. For those who aren't familiar with this guy, he's on Instagram, FB, and has appeared on TMZ. He is the John Gotti of today. He's survived numerous assassination attempts and beat 2 murder trials. Due to a large number of cooperators in the Philly family, there are numerous books that Joey's exploits are covered. He was taken down in a huge East Coast Enterprise Case with 2 other family bosses and it looked to be over for Joey, finally. Well, the case has gone on to fall apart and everyone in the case has taken pleas for a year or 2. Everyone except Joey. He's going to trial and it's looking like he'll walk. This guy is protected by the devil or an angel. Who knows.

Last but not least the big Lucchese hierarchy bust. This is the same family highlighted in Goodfellas that Paul Vario, Jimmy Burke, and Henry Hill were a part of. What makes this case uncommon for today's world is murder and attempted murders including the murder of infamous Purple Gang leader Michael Meldish in 2013. What makes this trial so interesting is you have 3 old, rich bosses who could potentially face the death penalty. A case like this has potential for a high ranking flip which is what leads to crazy trials, books, and movies.

With everything on the boards lately being NCAA case, I thought I'd throw out something different for board internet reading. All the hyperlinks are articles relating to the cases but if you want truly go down a rabbit hole just google Joey Merlino and you will get tons of articles and even videos via youtube.
 

ShrubDog

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Joe Columbo gets the dumbass boss award of the century. I got some good stories on Trafficante, he was a client of my grandfather's.
 

FreeDawg

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Trafficante's lawyer had a good book called Mob Lawyer. Typical mob stuff but also some JFK stuff with Nola boss Marcello too.

Columbo's rise and fall is fascinating and you can't tell that story without also including Crazy Joey Gallo. His brother Albert is still active, a reputed capo in the Genovese family.

ETA- Id live to hear to Trafficante stories if you ever wanted to share.
 
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Been meaning to tell you that if you haven't listened to the Crimetown podcast, you should do so. I thoroughly enjoyed season 1. It's a history of crime in Providence.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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I'm by no means a buff, but I watch/read anything mob related any chance I get. But, I couldn't tell you anything about today's mob. I know it's nothing compared to what it used to be, so what do they actually do now? I'm talking American mafia, not legit stuff still going on in Sicily. What can "gangsters" really do nowadays?
 

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Very loosely related fact that a lot of people don't know...

George Jung (dude in Blow) went to USM.
 

missouridawg

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Can't wait to see what they do for season 2. That was a great first season on Providence.

Am I the only one who thinks Buddy Cianci could be Babe Ruth's son or brother?
 

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Netflix gave Scorsese a ton of money and he's got an all-star crew. I'm guarded in my hopes after Black Mass. Ed Sheran is an interesting character for sure but his knowledge is limited to the murders he participated in as a mafia hitman. Some of what Sheran has said has been challenged and refuted but that doesn't mean it can't make a great movie.
 

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Netflix gave Scorsese a ton of money and he's got an all-star crew. I'm guarded in my hopes after Black Mass. Ed Sheran is an interesting character for sure but his knowledge is limited to the murders he participated in as a mafia hitman. Some of what Sheran has said has been challenged and refuted but that doesn't mean it can't make a great movie.
So is it filming right now? And does that mean you will only be able to watch it on Netflix?

I'm not too worried about accuracy, I'm just damn glad Pesci and De Niro are making one last mob movie. From what I read Pesci required some coercing.
 

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The big-time guys are doing what the guys in the Lucchese bust are doing. Construction, real estate, and bid rigging. What makes that case unique is old school violence not commonly seen today. Gambling was and always be their bread and butter. Pot has turned into a big deal too with evidence of that out of recent bust in Boston. If you want to know how big gambling can get, look at this NJ Lucchesse bust in 2016. Their book reportedly handled over a billion dollars in its entirety https://www.google.com/amp/s/patch....ime-family-capo-sons-get-decades-of-jail-time
 
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DawgatAuburn

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Crimetown was awesome. Hopefully you didn't delete it after it was done because after they wrapped up, Ralph Demasi was charged with a murder from the late 1980s in an armored truck robbery. The New York Times article was a great piece of writing https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...and-the-crime-that-wont-let-them-go.html?_r=0

Crimetown then uploaded a bonus episode after the arrest
I did hear that one. Also the bonus episode about the soundtrack was a good listen. The recording of the live show was a little blah though.
 

ShrubDog

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Trafficante's lawyer had a good book called Mob Lawyer. Tropical mob stuff but also some JFK stuff with Nola boss Marcello too.

Columbo's rise and fall is fascinating and you can't tell that story without also including Crazy Joey Gallo. His brother Albert is still active, a reputed capo in the Genovese family.

ETA- Id live to hear to Trafficante stories if you ever wanted to share.

About all I can say is my grandfather had a business next to one Trafficante's, not Kings Court. This place was only a few miles from Kings Court. He was on a first name basis with the boss and was Mr. to the rest of the crew.
 

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The Trafficante family is pretty interesting and I want to do more reading on. Santo Jr was one of the biggest gangsters in the US. He held huge sway nationally while never having the brute manpower the way the guys in NY, NE, Philly, & Chicago did. He also wasn't really interested in growing the family via making new members. He essentially closed the books keeping it small and more for himself. But in that strategy he insulated himself pretty well. He and Carlos Marcello were very similar and good friends. I'm convinced Carlos and Santo played huge roles in the JFK assasination. From all reports, the Trafficante family is done, as is Nola because of failing to make new guys and shrinking Italian recruiting pool.
 

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Yeah they have seen the end of that family in that area, but there is still a low presence of organization amongst some Italians, mostly drug trafficking, but some lone sharking and book making. They have formed a distribution system up with the Florida Outlaws MC.

The Greeks in Tarpon Springs control a good bit of Pinellas/Pasco county and the Anclote River, but spread out from there. Drug trafficking, booking and casinos. Its no secret the sponge divers still bring in square albino groupers. Their Cali Cartel operations got exposed in 1988 with a massive bust. I miss the sponge docks, haven't been down there in a few years. I miss walking around with the unofficial mayor of the docks, its a historical area but its the deep and secret history that still makes things tick. If you are not 100% Greek, its almost impossible to be accepted.
 
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houstonutsack

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I am reading "American Tabloid" by James Ellroy. It is a "noir novel" whose characters are all the Capo's mentioned plus J. Edgar Hoover, Fidel Castro, the CIA and the Kennedy family. It's a great read for those who like the "made guys"!
 

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Ya I've read ethnic street gangs have really took over the street level stuff in florida. You're dead on in regards to the Italians still having a presence down there. I think every family in NY and even Jersey has a crew in Florida. I read recently that the a lot of the old-timer Italians down in Fla who are semi-retired still run numbers down there. Talk about old school. But hey, the old guys from up north grew up on it so they still like to play. Joey Merlino had a crew and restaurant in Boca before the takedown. Pretty wild when you think about how Joey is the known boss of Philly but living big in Boca, hosting at his restaurants, and driving Rolls Royce's and whatnot. That guy...

That's funny you say that about the Greeks and docks. My favorite restaurant on the Emerald coast is Greek owned and they own the whole marina too.
 
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