Antonio Brown

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He is one of the best receiver talents to ever play the game. I would have kept him, won the Super Bowl, and then you can do whatever you want with him afterwards. I don't think what he did was serious enough to warrant immediate firing when you knew he was prone to do something like that in the first place.
Arians made it publicly clear that Antonio was very close to being cut after the vaccine card. He’ll look way too weak if he allows him to stay after this.
 

BHeinDaHuskers

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I believe there is a very good chance that A. Brown's story will end in a huge tragedy. I don't see good things in the future for him or someone he knows. In all seriousness we should be praying for that man to not harm himself or anyone else and he gets help asap.
 

HuskerHusaria

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AB is either absolutely ******* stupid or max CTE. I used to crack up on Chad Johnsons antics. But, AB didn't need to go this way.

I believe something is seriously wrong at this point.
 

BigB87

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Brown was a headcase pre-Burfict Hit so you can't blame it all on that. That being said, it does seem to have been amplified since then so I wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with it. Just sad to watch.
 

barney44

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I believe there is a very good chance that A. Brown's story will end in a huge tragedy. I don't see good things in the future for him or someone he knows. In all seriousness we should be praying for that man to not harm himself or anyone else and he gets help asap.
I can see that as well which is the truly sad part in all of this. Something bad will happen at the end I fear..
 

barney44

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Brown was a headcase pre-Burfict Hit so you can't blame it all on that. That being said, it does seem to have been amplified since then so I wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with it. Just sad to watch.
I would assume that head injury does play some role. Is it to blame entirely? Highly doubt it but his carelessness has been piling up on the world since..
 

HuskerHusaria

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I would assume that head injury does play some role. Is it to blame entirely? Highly doubt it but his carelessness has been piling up on the world since..
He's an adult, but I wish the NFL had some kind of ability to get a guy's head thoroughly checked before it gets like this
 

Dean Pope

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Brown was a headcase pre-Burfict Hit so you can't blame it all on that. That being said, it does seem to have been amplified since then so I wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with it. Just sad to watch.
This guy has had a reputation since high school. Got in fights, got expelled. Hates authority. Horrible grades. Finally got into Central Michigan of all places, got pampered there. Wasn't on a lot of teams draft boards. There's a reason that he lasted until the 6th round after dominating in the MAC.

I'm a Steelers fan and I remember reading about how much of a hard worker he was early on but he was described as aloof and flaky, an odd duck. After he became a #1 receiver and got his 2nd contract the trouble began. I give credit to Tomlin's coaching and the talent and sheer assholery of Ben Roethlisberger for keeping AB somewhat in line. But a lot of BS was covered up until finally, with the playoffs on the line AB just up and quit the team.

Then there's all of the people who worked for AB who never got paid-- managers, agents, electricians, massage therapists (apparently AB thought that just the opportunity to work on him and get groped by him was pay enough). AB doesn't want to pay anyone yet he will loose it if he thinks he is not getting his due. Someone is always out to get him. He was on the verge of getting a million dollars in incentive bonuses and would have made it. But I bet yesterday's eruption was over his concern that he wasn't getting enough targets and that Brady and the Bucs wanted to keep him from getting "his money".

The concussions could be playing a role, but he's always been a narcissist, probably a psychopath and bipolar. And a first class turd.
 

egaRdeR

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It’s okay to call him a moron and not make every convenient excuse in the world for him.
Him being a moron and having serious mental health issues don't have to be mutually exclusive. Most likely his mental issues are just exasperating his underlying issues.

If only it were so easy for mentally ill people to just "not be".
 

Dean Pope

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Him being a moron and having serious mental health issues don't have to be mutually exclusive. Most likely his mental issues are just exasperating his underlying issues.

If only it were so easy for mentally ill people to just "not be".
It seems weird, but losers like AB can also have outstanding qualities. Nobody outworked him or put in longer hours for many years. He developed into the best receiver in the league because of all of that. I think a lot of us, including me, do not realize that's even possible with hard core *ssholes like AB.
 

DrAlan_Grant

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I wanna laugh at his crazy antics, but damn. dude probably has no idea he needs help, or doesn't understand. Kinda sad. Hope he can get real help before its really too late.

As a steelers fan, it was great watching him, Big Ben and Bell in their prime.
 

steinek11

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Arians made it publicly clear that Antonio was very close to being cut after the vaccine card. He’ll look way too weak if he allows him to stay after this.
Arians never wanted Brown on his team. Obviously injuries to the receiving corps and pressure from ownership and Tom Brady swayed him. Brown going loco yesterday was the opening Arians has been looking for to be done with this joker for good and not get any blowback.
 

Kakdawg

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Maybe he could put all that money to good use and get some help rather than it being an excuse to do whatever he wants.

His behavior should not be acceptable nor should the excuses.


Is being mentally ill an excuse though is what is ask you?

Not saying he is either because I'm not qualified to say that. Just hypothetically if he's mentally ill is that an excuse??


Holla
 

redwine65

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Is being mentally ill an excuse though is what is ask you?

Not saying he is either because I'm not qualified to say that. Just hypothetically if he's mentally ill is that an excuse??


Holla
secular humanist won't call it what it is, sin/evil....it's allways mental problems with them cause they worship the creature..
 
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Him being a moron and having serious mental health issues don't have to be mutually exclusive. Most likely his mental issues are just exasperating his underlying issues.

If only it were so easy for mentally ill people to just "not be".
Other than your last sentence, me and you are good.

My brother has severe schizoaffective disorder. Obviously, I am hyper-aware of mental illness, and how it affects a family and those surrounded. That being said, nearly every doctor he’s had also told us that he’s also an a$$hole who has been enabled and has no business acting out the way he does and essentially having tantrums. My parents will obviously never go to the next level and put him in the street though…he’d last all of two weeks.

Long story short(or maybe long I guess)…if a dude has a brain, he can accept help, and even crazies can adapt…they don’t need as many excuses as we give them most of the time.
 

barney44

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Is being mentally ill an excuse though is what is ask you?

Not saying he is either because I'm not qualified to say that. Just hypothetically if he's mentally ill is that an excuse??


Holla
If he's mentally ill and people use that as a reason for his behavior then that is an excuse. Plenty of mentally ill people don't act like Antonio Brown.
 

Kakdawg

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If he's mentally ill and people use that as a reason for his behavior then that is an excuse. Plenty of mentally ill people don't act like Antonio Brown.


Untreated mentally ill? I say that to say untreated mental illness depending on the type affects different people in different ways. From my experience with people with mental illness you are talking in too many "absolutes". It's impossible to do that without knowing more information. My opinion of course.


Holla
 

egaRdeR

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Other than your last sentence, me and you are good.

My brother has severe schizoaffective disorder. Obviously, I am hyper-aware of mental illness, and how it affects a family and those surrounded. That being said, nearly every doctor he’s had also told us that he’s also an a$$hole who has been enabled and has no business acting out the way he does and essentially having tantrums. My parents will obviously never go to the next level and put him in the street though…he’d last all of two weeks.

Long story short(or maybe long I guess)…if a dude has a brain, he can accept help, and even crazies can adapt…they don’t need as many excuses as we give them most of the time.
I agree with you. I think there is a bit of varying degrees. Some people recognize they need help and get it. Some realize they need help and don't. Some don't have the capacity to make that determination on their own.

From the outside looking in it appears he knows he needs help and isn't getting it. It really doesn't look like it is heading down a path that will be good for him.
 

Bubblehead

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I'd say he was always problematic so then you add brain injury, fame, money and drama on top of that and you get what we see now..
Has anyone confirmed brain injury? Seems like if that were CONFIRMED, NFL would be the last place on earth he would be welcomed. They are already on the **** list of the ambulance chasers.
 

T...Chafes

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Antonio Brown at a Nets game tonight....
:oops:

 

BigB87

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Has anyone confirmed brain injury? Seems like if that were CONFIRMED, NFL would be the last place on earth he would be welcomed. They are already on the **** list of the ambulance chasers.

I'm pretty sure that there was a confirmed concussion from the Burfict hit. He missed the next game because of it, I do remember that.

IIRC, CTE is only definitively diagnosed post-mortem (like Alzheimer's unless that's changed, I haven't kept up since getting out of the counseling field), so you wouldn't be able to definitely prove it currently.
 

Bubblehead

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I'm pretty sure that there was a confirmed concussion from the Burfict hit. He missed the next game because of it, I do remember that.

IIRC, CTE is only definitively diagnosed post-mortem (like Alzheimer's unless that's changed, I haven't kept up since getting out of the counseling field), so you wouldn't be able to definitely prove it currently.
Hell, lots of folks have a concussion with zero effects down the road. I think it’s a stretch to say his behaviour is a result of that one hit. I do agree he has mental issues, but I am not convinced they are football related. But I appreciate your input, you certainly would have a better understanding of this than me.
 

HuskerHusaria

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I'm pretty sure that there was a confirmed concussion from the Burfict hit. He missed the next game because of it, I do remember that.

IIRC, CTE is only definitively diagnosed post-mortem (like Alzheimer's unless that's changed, I haven't kept up since getting out of the counseling field), so you wouldn't be able to definitely prove it currently.
He was already nuts before the hit ☹