Antoine Davis- SIAP

[HagginHall1999]

Detroit Mercy star is less than 70 pts away from breaking Pete Maravich career scoring record.

Pretty remarkable, granted he has played in like 60 more games than the Pistol.

 

[Jmeeks54thebest]

60 more games is pretty substantial

 

[CrimsonCats_rivals]

There was also no 3 point shot in Pete’s day even though he had the range to hit a ton of them. Cool achievement for Davis, but I’m not sure it’s a totally apples to apples comparison.

 

[ruppcat]

Detroit Mercy star is less than 70 pts away from break Pete Maravich career scoring record.

Pretty remarkable, granted he has played in like 60 more games than the Pistol.

Has the nba season always been 82 games?

Never mind....answered my own question.

 

[P. Fanning]

Detroit opens up conference tournament play tomorrow night. If they were to lose that one, I could see the CBI or the other smaller postseason tournament I think it was called the College Insider Tournament or something like that inviting them to play in hopes of getting some publicity/eyeballs for that tournament. Detroit has a losing record on the season, but those tournaments take what they can get anyway.

 

[HagginHall1999]

There was also no 3 point shot in Pete’s day even though he had the range to hit a ton of them. Cool achievement for Davis, but I’m not sure it’s a totally apples to apples comparison.

Oh it definitely isn't. Just thought I'd share because it was thought to be one of the forever records.

 

[HagginHall1999]

60 more games is pretty substantial

Uh, yeah it is almost two seasons!

 

[JHannibalSmith]

60 more games is pretty substantial

Yep, basically, 2 full seasons more than Maravich. This dude has played 5 seasons compared to Maravich’s 3. And, like @CrimsonCats said, Pete didn’t have the 3 point shot & a good chunk of his points came from beyond 20 ft. Still a nice accomplishment for Davis, but, not in the same class as Maravich’s numbers. Pete AVERAGED 44.2 ppg over THREE full seasons & Davis’ highest single season average is 28 ppg, this season.

 

[Blue Wildcat]

Yep, basically, 2 full seasons more than Maravich. This dude has played 5 seasons compared to Maravich’s 3. And, like @CrimsonCats said, Pete didn’t have the 3 point shot & a good chunk of his points came from beyond 20 ft. Still a nice accomplishment for Davis, but, not in the same class as Maravich’s numbers. Pete AVERAGED 44.2 ppg over THREE full seasons & Davis’ highest single season average is 28 ppg, this season.

Pete’s stats are unbelievable… 3 years, no 3 point line, and 44 per game is unreal.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

60 more games is pretty substantial

Pete did it in 3 years. No 3 point shot. Should not be compared as being the same.

Great accomplishment by the young man. Deserves the recognition.

 

[westerncat]

I don't think there will ever be another player like Pete Maravich. He was special.

 

[Crawfords Corner]

*A*n*t*o*i*n*e* *D*a*v*i*s* is how his name should be recorded in the record book.

 

[Jmeeks54thebest]

There was also no 3 point shot in Pete’s day even though he had the range to hit a ton of them. Cool achievement for Davis, but I’m not sure it’s a totally apples to apples comparison.

Yep, basically, 2 full seasons more than Maravich. This dude has played 5 seasons compared to Maravich’s 3. And, like @CrimsonCats said, Pete didn’t have the 3 point shot & a good chunk of his points came from beyond 20 ft. Still a nice accomplishment for Davis, but, not in the same class as Maravich’s numbers. Pete AVERAGED 44.2 ppg over THREE full seasons & Davis’ highest single season average is 28 ppg, this season.

It hadn’t even occurred to me until I woke up tonight (I work graveyard) that the 3 or shot had been removed. I blame it on the 3 Pt shot being implemented before my birth. But not having that extra point for a guy who was nicknamed Pistol Pete is probably as substantial as the 60 extra games Davis has had.

It’s certainly an achievement for the young man but as others have said, it does not compare to Pete’s record and should be recorded separately.

 

[CondorCat]

Yes, apples to oranges. Antoine Davis is a 5th year player (23.4 ppg). Maravich set his record in 3 years (44.2 ppg).

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nca...-davis-career-points/ontwqlwm8yivcqf1fpvb3txb

 

[SaltyCat22]

Just a bunch of losers Detroit Mercy are. Zero will to win, no basketball IQ. Mike Davis is a bum. Basketball version of a bunch of Sloane Stephenes.

 

[blubo]

Dale Brown (former coach of LSU) did play-by-play analysis on Pete Maravich's college games.
The analysis found that Pete would've averaged 13 three-point MAKES per game and 57 ppg.

Pete's career average in three years of college WITHOUT the 3-point line was 44 ppg.

 

[P. Fanning]

Davis had 38 tonight as Detroit Mercy won their first round game in their conference tournament. They move on to play the number 1 seed Youngstown State Thursday night.

 

[Boyd94]

44.2 × 60 games= 2652 points. Davis has some catching up to do.

 

[Bluefaithful]

It counts, needs 25 to tie now and they won in first round of conference tournament.
Kansas leads in an all time wins by 4 but played in 146 more games and we got fans that have a cow and think we we are on same level. Records mean nothing. It’s not comparable. They hang bread banners from 1922 and 1923 that wasn’t awarded until the mid 40’s. NCAA is a joke and Bozo’s last day was today wasn’t it?

 

[Crawfords Corner]

They play the 1-seed Youngstown St in their next game. *Davis* had 32 in one game and 15 in the other. He needs 25 to tie. 26 for the outright record.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

All the people bashing this guy are the same ones talking up Kansas when they played a ton more games than UK. So percentage and games is ok for pistols Pete but not for UK?

 

[HagginHall1999]

I don't think there will ever be another player like Pete Maravich. He was special.

Steph Curry is up there tbh. I'd say he is closest player in terms of skill set. Wizard with the ball and obviously a superior shooter.

 

[HagginHall1999]

Pete’s stats are unbelievable… 3 years, no 3 point line, and 44 per game is unreal.

Not trying to downplay him at all but he took close to 40 shots per game. Let me be clear, in no way do I think Davis is anywhere near Pete, but I'd say Issel was a better college player. Same era and average 34 on 23 shots his final year.

Issel was on a better team and much taller but played outside too, right?

His shooting percentage was far higher.

 

[bthaunert]

Dale Brown (former coach of LSU) did play-by-play analysis on Pete Maravich's college games.
The analysis found that Pete would've averaged 13 three-point MAKES per game and 57 ppg.

Pete's career average in three years of college WITHOUT the 3-point line was 44 ppg.

That number is so inflated by Dale Brown.

If you just do the math:

He shot .438 from the field over his career. He averaged 38.1 shots per game.

Let’s say he shot .400 from what would be 3 point range. To average 13 makes a game, 32 of his 38 shots would be from 3 point range.

Pete was a great player and I like Dale Brown, but that 13 number is so inflated by him.

 

[G-PIP]

I would have thought Davis would have wanted to transfer to a big time program for his last couple of years. I'm guessing that would have been an option for him - probably even UK. I'm speculating, of course, because I don't know what his goals were; but I would think transferring in his situation would be the path if you had designs on playing in the NBA.

 

[NoDef]

There was also no 3 point shot in Pete’s day even though he had the range to hit a ton of them. Cool achievement for Davis, but I’m not sure it’s a totally apples to apples comparison.

Not disputing those guys took a lot of shots that would of now of been threes. I just wonder how much farther the defense would of extended if the reward from that range earned you an extra point. I would think a good strategy back then would be to bait the guy into taking a 20 foot two instead of letting the guy get a good look from 10-15 feet. Just a thought.

 

[Boyd94]

I would have thought Davis would have wanted to transfer to a big time program for his last couple of years. I'm guessing that would have been an option for him - probably even UK. I'm speculating, of course, because I don't know what his goals were; but I would think transferring in his situation would be the path if you had designs on playing in the NBA.

Not much need for a 6'1" shooting guard.

 

[G-PIP]

Not much need for a 6'1" shooting guard.

I think if you're a prolific enough scorer, they'll make a place for you.

 

[Boyd94]

I think if you're a prolific enough scorer, they'll make a place for you.

Well, first he's 24. Second is his 40% career fg average. Third, he's not really a prolific scorer but more of a volume scorer.

 

[yoshukai]

Dale Brown (former coach of LSU) did play-by-play analysis on Pete Maravich's college games.
The analysis found that Pete would've averaged 13 three-point MAKES per game and 57 ppg.

Pete's career average in three years of college WITHOUT the 3-point line was 44 ppg.

This is not a criticism of you or Pete . But I wouldn’t trust a thing that comes out of Dale Browns mouth .

 

[G-PIP]

Well, first he's 24. Second is his 40% career fg average. Third, he's not really a prolific scorer but more of a volume scorer.

I don't know enough about Davis' ability to even start to advocate for him having a shot in the NBA. I just know he has scored a ton of points - in fact, on the verge of breaking a scoring record (even if that's not as impressive as what Pete Maravich did) - and being only 6'1" is not enough by itself to keep someone like that out of the league.

I also thought it would be pretty unusual if Davis didn't at least believe that he could make it with him putting up those kind of scoring numbers. That's why I was wondering about his decision not to transfer. Did he think his chances would not be improved by transferring to a higher profile school? Did he accept early on that he would never be able to play in the NBA and decide he just wanted to play for his father? I was just wondering if others had some insight on that decision (e.g., maybe it's been reported or written about already).

 

[riversideman]

If gonna count extra Covid year in total for the record, then I think Pete's freshman year totals should be counted. Wouldn't be close then.

 

[Yardeth]

Not trying to downplay him at all but he took close to 40 shots per game. Let me be clear, in no way do I think Davis is anywhere near Pete, but I'd say Issel was a better college player. Same era and average 34 on 23 shots his final year.

Issel was on a better team and much taller but played outside too, right?

His shooting percentage was far higher.

I was going to say this, Pete taking 40 shots a game is crazy. He also averaged 14 free throws a game as well and that was when basketball was a man’s sport and rough. 3pt line would have driven his numbers to crazy heights.

 

[UK90]

Did he think his chances would not be improved by transferring to a higher profile school? Did he accept early on that he would never be able to play in the NBA and decide he just wanted to play for his father?

Not transferring has little to nothing to do with his NBA chances. Tons of great NBA players have come from little mid-majors schools. Hell, about the three best point guards in the world today all did (see Ja Morant, Steph Curry, Damian Lillard, etc.). If you have NBA caliber talent, the scouts will find you wherever you are.

His NBA prospects are not very good, but not because of where he plays. Instead it’s because he’s 6’1” shooting guard who’s not very athletic and is limited in the other areas of the game beyond shooting. He would still have those physical limitations if he was at a higher profile program.

 

[bnewt]

I would have thought Davis would have wanted to transfer to a big time program for his last couple of years. I'm guessing that would have been an option for him - probably even UK. I'm speculating, of course, because I don't know what his goals were; but I would think transferring in his situation would be the path if you had designs on playing in the NBA.

I believe he was in the portal last year and wanted UK to give him a look, but ccc decided to stay with Wheeler as the point guard. This kid could have helped a lot with his scoring ability