Greg Marshall is an excellent coach. Would be a heck of a hire, if y'all could make it happen. Marshall appears to be in a very comfortable situation at Witchita State, but Bama has the money to make an interesting offer. Marshall might realize he has done as much as he can do at a small school and decide it is time to move to a power conference. I think it would certainly make SEC basketball more fun and competitive if y'all got Marshall.
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I appreciate it W2R & I won't lie..I have no clue when it comes to college B'Ball..That's why I was curious as to who y'all think would be a realistic hire for us..I really respect all your opinions cause I know you all knows all there is about college B'Ball like we do college football..
Yeah, I would tend to agree. Marshall has a good gig going at WSU, he already has a Final Four, and an undefeated regular season and an NIT championship on his resume, plus he is back in the NCAA tourney this year.
Stansbury would be an excellent choice IMO, and he would be an easy get.
Very sorry but Marshal to Bama is not happening!! Bama more in the ball park of a Steve Fisher type of hire or a young asst coach like Kenny Payne.
I think Bama needs to make a big deal about this hire and have it be part of an unquestionable statement that they are renewing their vigor and commitment to the basketball program. This means big money and providing the coach with whatever support (private planes for recruiting, upgrading facilities, etc.) he feels necessary.
Guys like Marshall, Bennett, Hoiberg and Smart would be homeruns. Just don't see them being ultra realistic though. Archie Miller would be at the top of the more realistic list.
Guys like Marshall, Bennett, Hoiberg and Smart would be homeruns. Just don't see them being ultra realistic though. Archie Miller would be at the top of the more realistic list.
I could see that happening with Stanbury..I saw an article today & it stated that since we have a big budget in our athletic department money won't be a problem & "The Powers That Be" at Bama wants to put their money where their mouths are..And go after some big name coaches..Cause when Bama B'Ball is winning, our fans come out in full support, we just need a coach that can actually teach our players how to play & bring in a renewed energy & passion our B'Ball lost under Grant..We will support our B'Ball team when they give us a good team to support & not the crap Grant gave us..I love & respect Coach Grant, but, the man had no fire in him at all & literally sat in a chair on the bench nearly the entire game..He looked lost on the bench at times..We have some good players..Just don't have good coaching at all under Grant..I'm glad he's gone finally..
Archie Miller to IU. Donovan stays put.Originally posted by Samwise Ganjee:
So now Tom Crean becomes coach at 'Bama and Donovan goes to IU?
Tidesports reported that someone close to the UCLA program says Ben Howland is interested in the job. I think that would be a good hire.
I hope they throw the bank at Gregg Marshall though. Money has a way of speaking. Make him say no. UA certainly has the cash to do it. It's just if they're willing to do it. Bruce Pearl being at Auburn certainly makes this a must hit hire.
BTW, good luck in the NCAA tourney. I'm hoping the Cats get that undefeated championship.
I hope they throw the bank at Gregg Marshall though. Money has a way of speaking. Make him say no. UA certainly has the cash to do it. It's just if they're willing to do it. Bruce Pearl being at Auburn certainly makes this a must hit hire.
BTW, good luck in the NCAA tourney. I'm hoping the Cats get that undefeated championship.
Exactly..I hope we do throw a bunch of $$$$ at Marshall as well & make him say no to us like you say..Like I say I don't keep up with college B'Ball like I do college football..Is Howland a really good coach & would be a hire that would bring that fire back to Bama B'Ball????
Alabama obviously made a mistake forcing Gottfried to resign. At the time, Grant seemed like a good choice given that he was on Donovan's staff, but it was definitely time to part ways. I like the idea of throwing a lot of money at Marshall and making him say no. I also like the idea of having Stansbury in mind as a back up plan if someone like Howland doesn't materialize.
Granted it's UCLA, Howland took UCLA to 2 final fours and a national championship game. He kind of faltered there at the end, but he still made the NCAA tourney with a 25-10 record in his last season before UCLA fired him.
He also took Pittsburgh to two straight Sweet 16's. He's a pretty proven head coach for us.
I'd much rather have him than Stansbury. Honestly, I don't want Stansbury at all. Pearl would coach circles around him.
Iknow on tidesports some fans think Pastner would be a good choice. educate yourself on him. He would crumble immediately at Alabama. Memphis has a systematic hold on their in city talent. It's the only reason he recruited that well in the first place. As a coach he is horrible, and memphis is going to fire him next season. Unless Alabama is prepared to force him to hire and X and 0 guy, as well as set recruiting up on a Tee for him, he'd be a terrible hire.
Howland would be a mediocre hire and could he even recruit the area.
Unless you want to make him rich Marshal aint coming either.
Damn Bama fans. I'd suggest you get help from a committee. It's obvious it would be needed.
Howland would be a mediocre hire and could he even recruit the area.
Unless you want to make him rich Marshal aint coming either.
Damn Bama fans. I'd suggest you get help from a committee. It's obvious it would be needed.
No offense... but this is why its hard to talk hoops with other fans of the SEC. At Miss State, Stansbury won the West (back when it existed) 5 times, reached the conference tournament final 4 times, winning it twice. In 2009 his team beat almighty Pearl for the title.
Need more evidence? Just look at Miss State since he left.
Ben Howland is Tubby Smith. Tubby won a title at Kentucky... where is he at now again?
I'll do a football analogy. Kentucky football fans were happy to "steal" Bill Curry from Alabama.
At the end , Holland COMPLETELY lost control of his program at UCLA . He also has an almost unwatchable style of play that might not be appealing to recruits . He had Westbrook and Kevin Love for his final fours , couldn't get any more players of that caliber .
Stansbury would be a steal for Alabama and would be good for the league. Mississippi State fans WISH they had him back.
They are thinking about guys like Greg Marshal who are way ahead of Alabama in terms of personal prestige. Alabama, except for conference, would be a step down at this time relative to what Marshal will be looking at in a couple of years.
Earth Alabama. Earth. Just hire a committee.
No offense taken.
I understand Stansbury did some very good things while he was at State, but he could also be very inconsistent. The furthest he ever took State in the tourney was the second round. And he had some pretty talented rosters.
I just think Howland would be a much better choice than Stansbury. I know it's said he doesn't have any ties to this area, but he could build those ties. He could also use coaching former players like Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook, etc, as a recruiting tool.
I like Archie Miller and Larry Shyatt as possible replacements for Grant. If Miller could get that Dayton squad into the tournament (no one over 6'6") then, I think he'd be a good get for Bama.
Don't see Marshall playing 2nd fiddle to football like he'd have to do at Bama. There's a bit of an ego there...not that, that is necessarily a bad thing.
Don't see Marshall playing 2nd fiddle to football like he'd have to do at Bama. There's a bit of an ego there...not that, that is necessarily a bad thing.
That is true about Stansbury's NCAA tournament record. I just feel that he's done more with less resources than these other names being thrown around.
I would think it should be about "branding" for Alabama at this point, someone who can inject some electricity into the program (like Pearl, for sure). After parting ways with Grant, surely Bama doesn't want the same type of plodding style and lack of personality that Howland's teams were famous for.
Archie Miller would be a good get. They probably do need to swing for the fences in Marshall just to show they are serious.
Archie Miller would be a very good hire if Bama could convince him to come south. The toughness and grit he brings out of his teams coupled with the physicality and size Bama typically has on the roster would make them a very ugly matchup for everyone.
Shaka Smart has paid attention and learned from his mentor's mistake. Don't jump when just any school from a power conference calls. Grant did and it was a failure. So many coaches do that and flop like Dan Monsoon who took the Zags the furthest they have ever been in the Elite Eight and then left for Minnesota. It did not work out.
Grant should not have jumped to Bama. They have never cared about basketball and never will. Their fan base doesn't care.
Grant should not have jumped to Bama. They have never cared about basketball and never will. Their fan base doesn't care.
We definitely do need someone that can inject electricity into the program. It pisses me off, too, because we could have had Pearl last year if we wanted him. We are year late on this firing Grant thing.
Agree, we need to throw every thing we can at Marshall. Heck, maybe he would want to move back down South
I'll bet you've heard of his brother...Sean Miller, head coach at Arizona. Strong basketball family.
That fact about Dayton not having any contributing player over 6'6" is true by the way.
Gregg Marshall won't go to a 'football first' school. Doesn't matter how much money 'Bama throws at him. South Carolina couldn't get him, and he would have gotten PAID there. Tennessee was too cheap (thanks again, Mikey), but he wouldn't have come to KnoxVegas anyway. Here's a free rep. Barclay Radebaugh at Charleston Southern. Won the Big South title playing and recruiting at a high school sized gym (you can look it up). He's Gregg Marshall at a third of the cost. Beat Ole Miss at Ole Miss this season, and is under 50 years of age. Paid his dues and is ready to step up to a Power 5 conference.
I got to know Howland a bit at Pitt. I think UCLA was just too big a job for him.
I see him being a pretty good fit at Bama. Him coaching a team that is overshadowed by the football team would keep him out from under the glaring lights he faced in LA and would be a good thing.
I do not enjoy his style of play, but the man can coach basketball.
I see him being a pretty good fit at Bama. Him coaching a team that is overshadowed by the football team would keep him out from under the glaring lights he faced in LA and would be a good thing.
I do not enjoy his style of play, but the man can coach basketball.
I respectfully disagree HeismanWildcat85 that we don't care about our B'Ball Program, when we have a good team, our fans packs Coleman Coliseum, but, when you put out a crappy product like Grant has the last couple of years, of course there's going to be empty seats at CC..When Wimp Sanderson was our coach, the atmosphere at Bama, equaled the atmosphere of any team of the country near bouts, except for schools like Kentucky & the North Carolina's of college B'Ball..
We supported Grant in full force until it was obvious he lost his will to coach at Bama & lost that coaching fire in him..If the coach doesn't give a damn like they way Grant has acted the last couple years, that trickles down to the fanbase naturally & our fans pretty much didn't give a damn either..In all honesty Grant should have been fired last year..It can't be stated we didn't give him the time he needed to build a solid B'Ball Program that's for sure..And he walked away with a nice buyout & can take a year or two away from coaching to recharge his batteries from the money he made from Bama..
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We supported Grant in full force until it was obvious he lost his will to coach at Bama & lost that coaching fire in him..If the coach doesn't give a damn like they way Grant has acted the last couple years, that trickles down to the fanbase naturally & our fans pretty much didn't give a damn either..In all honesty Grant should have been fired last year..It can't be stated we didn't give him the time he needed to build a solid B'Ball Program that's for sure..And he walked away with a nice buyout & can take a year or two away from coaching to recharge his batteries from the money he made from Bama..
This post was edited on 3/16 3:24 AM by TideMan09
Problem is most of the SEC teams are too friggin tight and could care less about basketball to hire a good coach,they won't spend the money.
Bama should go after Mark Fox, he wouldn't win any more than Grant but he somehow has the perception of being a great coach so the fans would be satisfied.
I could see Bama taking a look at Steve Prohm from Murray. He's a Bama grad and was an assistant there as well. Possible concern would be taking a chance w a 'mid major' coach.
Before we start dismissing candidates we have to remember that it is Alabama...they don't get first pick in basketball...
they were lucky to get Anthony Grant...folks were actually surprised he chose them and didn't wait for a basketball school to come calling...he was on the fast track to becoming the next big thing...studied under Billy Donovan and helped gators win a title...put VCU on the map...he will probably get another HC gig some day, do well, and end up in the big dance...
they don't give a hoot about basketball down there...or they just think that the HC should be able to build the program all by himself...
I hope the tide are serious this time around...if another up and coming coach goes there and isn't heard from again until he's fired...tide might as well just get rid of the basketball program...no body will give that program a sniff...
they were lucky to get Anthony Grant...folks were actually surprised he chose them and didn't wait for a basketball school to come calling...he was on the fast track to becoming the next big thing...studied under Billy Donovan and helped gators win a title...put VCU on the map...he will probably get another HC gig some day, do well, and end up in the big dance...
they don't give a hoot about basketball down there...or they just think that the HC should be able to build the program all by himself...
I hope the tide are serious this time around...if another up and coming coach goes there and isn't heard from again until he's fired...tide might as well just get rid of the basketball program...no body will give that program a sniff...