Another one leaving - Niko Cooper

STUCKNKS

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I haven't met anyone on this board, what's your point? Do you meet a lot of people you encounter on the internet? When you make idiotic all-encompassing statements like "none of us are happy about it" expect me to make fun of you kid.
I do happen to know more than several on this board. I been here since it existed so you figure the years.
And most are tied to the premium board.
I happened to be a long time Husker Fan.
I can still remember the idiots who wanted Tom Osborne fired so i have seen alot.
Ask yourself. What good does it do coming here dogging your favorite team?
 

mgbreeze

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I do happen to know more than several on this board. I been here since it existed so you figure the years.
And most are tied to the premium board.
I happened to be a long time Husker Fan.
I can still remember the idiots who wanted Tom Osborne fired so i have seen alot.
Ask yourself. What good does it do coming here dogging your favorite team?
And what good does it do to pump sunshine when that isn't reality? Feel free to research my approach on this board. I'm not going to toot my own horn but I don't think you'll find me on the fringe of either positive or negative. I do think a FEW posters beat the drum of negativity incessantly and it gets old. But what do you expect? Niko Cooper makes zero difference by himself, but if you deny there is a disturbing trend you're not being remotely honest about the situation.

EDIT: and by the way, there has NEVER been an environment more conducive to transfers. As spring practice progresses and kids get a dose reality expect more transfers. It will make zero difference to next season but expect a lot more bitching about it.
 

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Yep. I don't understand why N fans feel the need to come here and post the crap Rambo post.
None of us are happy about it.
State of the whole department is pretty sad right now. We have an elite VB program and Wrestling is doing well but then it drops off fast. I’m optimistic towards baseball but football and basketball are beyond frustrating right now. Most frustrating is that the flagship sport seems to be the furthest away. Oh well, will continue to hope for progress. What else can we do?
 

mikecanale

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rats fleeing a near-sunk ship

I feel bad for anyone who bought the bill of goods frost has been selling. they're just 18-year old kids, after all

for a 40-something to say things like 'title' and 'NFL' to them with a straight face and then deliver what frost has, it takes a special kind of hubris/arrogance/assh*lery
My guess is the kid would have stayed if all the seniors who would have graduated in a regular season were not coming back. He's a JOCO and didn't want to be lost on the depth chart for another year. It probably has nothing (or very little) to do with Frost's record as coach.
 

STUCKNKS

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And what good does it do to pump sunshine when that isn't reality? Feel free to research my approach on this board. I'm not going to toot my own horn but I don't think you'll find me on the fringe of either positive or negative. I do think a FEW posters beat the drum of negativity incessantly and it gets old. But what do you expect? Niko Cooper makes zero difference by himself, but if you deny there is a disturbing trend you're not being remotely honest about the situation.

EDIT: and by the way, there has NEVER been an environment more conducive to transfers. As spring practice progresses and kids get a dose reality expect more transfers. It will make zero difference to next season but expect a lot more bitching about it.
Not sure what you mean by sunshine? I guess I am not the guy who comes on here and predicts anything until there is adequate time.
This improvement is going to take more than a few years If it is going to happen so again. Why come here and run the program down.
Many did the same with Osborne.
I will be at the Spring game to check out the players on the roster.
Hope the weather is great!
Take care
 
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Not sure what you mean by sunshine? I guess I am not the guy who comes on here and predicts anything until there is adequate time.
This improvement is going to take more than a few years If it is going to happen so again. Why come here and run the program down.
Many did the same with Osborne.
I will be at the Spring game to check out the players on the roster.
Hope the weather is great!
Take care
Comparing Frost to TO is asinine and incredibly stupid. Frost makes mistakes repeatedly.
 

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He wasn't even a starter on his juco team if I recall correctly. Just another case of grabbing a project late in the recruiting season and having it not work out.

Dean, you are right on. We seem to find too many if the "projects" that do not stick around or get developed. It messes up the recruiting in several ways including not taking someone better in that spot and keeping the "we are young" excuse ongoing.
 

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My guess is the kid would have stayed if all the seniors who would have graduated in a regular season were not coming back. He's a JOCO and didn't want to be lost on the depth chart for another year. It probably has nothing (or very little) to do with Frost's record as coach.
exactly. the free year worked out well for some and terrible for others. it doesn't help that NEB signed more players the last 3 years than any program in the league. Frost has actually done an unbelievable job of continuing to attract recruits despite more freshmen and sophs than any team in the league. but eventually the big numbers will work itself out as Cooper and others find out they aren't needed.
 

oldjar07

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I'm not going to blame a kid for transferring when he's not getting a chance and is receiving poor coaching to boot. Cooper did some good things on special teams. Would have liked to see him get a few more opportunities at OLB. Could he really have been any worse than Tannor?
 

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I'm not going to blame a kid for transferring when he's not getting a chance and is receiving poor coaching to boot. Cooper did some good things on special teams. Would have liked to see him get a few more opportunities at OLB. Could he really have been any worse than Tannor?
He did good things on special teams? Like what, made a tackle or two? We need to stop being mad when kids that are incapable of cracking the 3 deep want to leave.
 

oldjar07

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He did good things on special teams? Like what, made a tackle or two? We need to stop being mad when kids that are incapable of cracking the 3 deep want to leave.
Where did I say I was mad? Yes he made a few nice tackles on special teams where he showed more athletic ability than just about anyone else on the roster. I would have liked to at least seen what he could do on the defensive side of the ball, but he never got much of an opportunity. Forgive me if I don't trust the staff's decision making when they think Tannor's a great player who should never come off the field.
 

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Where did I say I was mad? Yes he made a few nice tackles on special teams where he showed more athletic ability than just about anyone else on the roster. I would have liked to at least seen what he could do on the defensive side of the ball, but he never got much of an opportunity. Forgive me if I don't trust the staff's decision making when they think Tannor's a great player who should never come off the field.
I just fill you in. He wasn't cutting it. He wasn't ready for D1. Hopefully he transfers to a smaller school where he can play.
 

STUCKNKS

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Comparing Frost to TO is asinine and incredibly stupid. Frost makes mistakes repeatedly.
Who said I'm comparing Frost to Osborne?
Read and think about what you are reading. I just mentioned fans did the same thing when Osborne was here and that was waaay into his 10 -13th year. So what i am trying to point out is there is always going to be fans who do nothing but complain no matter what.
Just do not bring the real bad crap here and keep it to yourself.
 

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I do happen to know more than several on this board. I been here since it existed so you figure the years.
And most are tied to the premium board.
I happened to be a long time Husker Fan.
I can still remember the idiots who wanted Tom Osborne fired so i have seen alot.
Ask yourself. What good does it do coming here dogging your favorite team?
In my lifetime, Husker fans have wanted to fire every coach. I was born the year after Devaney got the gig. Bob had a couple of soft years and there were rumblings. Before Bob showed up, the team had losing seasons most years after the War.
 

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In my lifetime, Husker fans have wanted to fire every coach. I was born the year after Devaney got the gig. Bob had a couple of soft years and there were rumblings. Before Bob showed up, the team had losing seasons most years after the War.
So you're saying it's Devaney's fault? Winking
 

x35goahs

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Where did I say I was mad? Yes he made a few nice tackles on special teams where he showed more athletic ability than just about anyone else on the roster. I would have liked to at least seen what he could do on the defensive side of the ball, but he never got much of an opportunity. Forgive me if I don't trust the staff's decision making when they think Tannor's a great player who should never come off the field.
No offense man but what’s your background that you have the ability to make that sort of assessment that he had “more athletic ability than just about anyone on the roster?” How do we know the reason he didn’t see the field is because he was dumb? People forget that you can’t put a kid on the field if you don’t trust him to be in the right spots. For all we know he never cracked the three deep because when they gave him reps in practice he could never execute his assignments. This idea that dudes sitting on their couch that haven’t played a sport past peewee tee ball know personnel decisions better than frost and his staff drives me nuts.
 

oldjar07

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No offense man but what’s your background that you have the ability to make that sort of assessment that he had “more athletic ability than just about anyone on the roster?” How do we know the reason he didn’t see the field is because he was dumb? People forget that you can’t put a kid on the field if you don’t trust him to be in the right spots. For all we know he never cracked the three deep because when they gave him reps in practice he could never execute his assignments. This idea that dudes sitting on their couch that haven’t played a sport past peewee tee ball know personnel decisions better than frost and his staff drives me nuts.
Coaches don't know everything. Heck even in professional sports where everyone knows the career trajectories and capabilities of each player, coaches make bad personnel decisions all the time. Considering you can't even trust these coaches to teach basic fundamental concepts and the incompetence we see on gamedays, no I'm not going to assume that the staff is making perfect personnel decisions. Now with regards to Cooper, all I said is he flashed a lot of athletic ability during his play on special teams that we haven't seen a whole lot of on this team. Is there something else that's preventing him from getting significant playing time on defense? There probably is, but I'd at least like to see a guy with that kind of athletic ability get a shot to see the field more. Especially when the guy who's supposedly in front of him makes a ton of mental errors himself and doesn't even appear to have the physical ability to play against Big 10 competition.
 

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I just fill you in. He wasn't cutting it. He wasn't ready for D1. Hopefully he transfers to a smaller school where he can play.
stop being so negative
Who said I'm comparing Frost to Osborne?
Read and think about what you are reading. I just mentioned fans did the same thing when Osborne was here and that was waaay into his 10 -13th year. So what i am trying to point out is there is always going to be fans who do nothing but complain no matter what.
Just do not bring the real bad crap here and keep it to yourself.
Tom was having winning seasons. Frost is not, and it was You who compared them in post #47.
 

TruHusker

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What did Cooper make, like three tackles on special teams last year? I don't remember him being singled out for being s ST juggernaut. Maybe you can share with us all exactly where he played on all the ST that he became so overwhelming good with those massive numbers.
 

STUCKNKS

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stop being so negative

Tom was having winning seasons. Frost is not, and it was You who compared them in post #47.
Nope. Did not compare the two. Just simply stated the same idiots wanted Osborne gone too.
 

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Nebraska is still over the schollie limit so there will be a few more. Not sure how this is surprising to anyone.
 

STUCKNKS

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Thank you for joining the board discussion... I look forward to your insights
Spartan, this does not get fixed for years. It's going to take patience, dedication and a fan who can be tough. One who can hang thru the ups and downs. One who is Husker Red thru and thru.
Whining is not an option.
This is going to take Years.
 

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Spartan, this does not get fixed for years. It's going to take patience, dedication and a fan who can be tough. One who can hang thru the ups and downs. One who is Husker Red thru and thru.
Whining is not an option.
This is going to take Years.
Years? Are you saying that Frost should be the head coach for years to come regardless of whether he has winning season? If your definition of “years” is two more years, maybe that makes sense. But more than two would be ridiculous.
 

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What did Cooper make, like three tackles on special teams last year? I don't remember him being singled out for being s ST juggernaut. Maybe you can share with us all exactly where he played on all the ST that he became so overwhelming good with those massive numbers.
I'll admit that at times he made some great plays and at times he disappeared on ST. Which is still more than you can say about most of the guys who played on ST. Still think Cooper should have gotten more PT on defense. Considering Tannor was a complete liability anyway, I would have liked to see someone else at least get a look.
 
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exactly. the free year worked out well for some and terrible for others. it doesn't help that NEB signed more players the last 3 years than any program in the league. Frost has actually done an unbelievable job of continuing to attract recruits despite more freshmen and sophs than any team in the league. but eventually the big numbers will work itself out as Cooper and others find out they aren't needed.

All of the sophomores will be at least 3rd year and many of the freshmen, all of those who redshirted will be in their 3rd year as well. These guys will have been around the program for as long as the typical Sr and Jr pre-covid.

Using terms like freshmen and sophomores is a bit disingenuous in this situation. There will literally be kids from the 2019 class that are still classified as freshmen. We have had players leave the program for the NFL with that same amount of time in Lincoln.
 

TruHusker

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I'll admit that at times he made some great plays and at times he disappeared on ST. Which is still more than you can say about most of the guys who played on ST. Still think Cooper should have gotten more PT on defense. Considering Tannor was a complete liability anyway, I would have liked to see someone else at least get a look.

You know, if he truly was a beast in ST, he would have stood out like a sore thumb. He would have been mentioned a the ST player to watch, or something would have been said but no, just crickets.

You loose all credibility when making a statement about his abilities based on ST play when in fact, in any given game, you cannot even see all the players on ST given the camera angles. Coach McBride, when asked to comment about the Husker D said some of it, especially D backs he couldn't see well on TV. So please tell me when he flashed this amazing athleticism that overwhelmed you to point of thinking the coaches are idiots and he could/should be playing more with all three of his tackles of dominance?
 
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If he wasn't at the position he was I wouldn't care at all. Just frustrating to watch nothing pan out in terms of pass rush.

Continue throwing spaghetti at the wall I guess, it's all you really can do. Have to wonder how things would be if we weren't playing a 3 man front. Takes a different type of cat to be a 3-4 OLB