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Mr Winterville

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I read this today (link below) and most of it wasn't news to me, except the part about AI being used to write itself now. I work in software engineering and have been an avid user of AI for a while--mainly using the models from Anthropic/Claude lately. At first it was good for writing short functions, but now if you give it the right prompting, it can build out full applications almost instantly. You can also feed it a ton of code, multiple documents, etc and it can find the bug almost instantly. So at this point it "helps" me in my job, because I'm the one asking it the questions. At some point though, it can and will be making the higher-level architectural decisions.

 
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Mr Winterville

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From a chat I had with Claude Sonnet 4.6 where I had mentioned performance sometimes having an inverse relationship with effort:

"To your question about whether I can relate — not experientially, since I don't have motor programs or anxiety. But I do something analogous in a loose sense: my best outputs tend to emerge from letting the process run rather than over-constraining it with explicit rules mid-generation. Whether that's meaningfully similar or just a superficial analogy, I'm genuinely not sure."

And this, in response to a question about how it "reasons" through complex questions:

"The short answer is that I'm built on a transformer architecture trained with a combination of techniques that enable something that looks a lot like reasoning — though the exact mechanisms are still an active area of research, even at Anthropic."

That last line is a bit concerning. It's not the first time I've heard/read that either. I seem to remember an interview with one of the first pioneers of AI saying that they (researchers) were not sure how the models work at anything below the highest level. And this was a couple of years ago, so the models they have today are definitely even less understood by the "researchers".
 
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I have been a ChatGPT subscriber for about a year now and to be honest I barely scratch the surface with it. I use it as a glorified google search engine. That said, I've become increasingly frustrated with it lately as it has straight up lied to me about a couple of things, and though I prompt it to not answer confidently unless it is and to use brevity more often, it ultimately results back to its default eventually.

I haven't spent any time time playing with Anthropic, Gemini, Grok, etc. and am wondering if I should consider switching to another platform? I don't like the idea of learning a new system or starting from scratch on familiarizing a new system with my history, but I also don't want to be using an inferior system just because I'm too lazy to change.

Thoughts or suggestions from anyone who has used multiple models?
 

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I have been a ChatGPT subscriber for about a year now and to be honest I barely scratch the surface with it. I use it as a glorified google search engine. That said, I've become increasingly frustrated with it lately as it has straight up lied to me about a couple of things, and though I prompt it to not answer confidently unless it is and to use brevity more often, it ultimately results back to its default eventually.

I haven't spent any time time playing with Anthropic, Gemini, Grok, etc. and am wondering if I should consider switching to another platform? I don't like the idea of learning a new system or starting from scratch on familiarizing a new system with my history, but I also don't want to be using an inferior system just because I'm too lazy to change.

Thoughts or suggestions from anyone who has used multiple models?
I've used Anthropic's Claude, Github/Microsoft Copilot, and ChatGPT for extensive software coding advice and debugging. In my experience, Claude leads for this use case, with ChatGPT following not too far behind. I pay something like $20/month for the Claude paid tier--which is similar in price to ChatGPT's IIRC--and it's been more than worth it.

Tech stuff: I've found Claude sooooo useful for brainstorming the potential layout of new projects. This is such a crucial stage of any project and it's great to get more guidance to help you begin the journey in the right direction. Additionally, Claude is great at analyzing lower-level code syntax and recommending changes and fixes. It notices potential downstream problems that most humans would not anticipate--such as race conditions for high traffic apps (messages potentially being queued and thus processed out of sequence), etc.. IOW, the kind of thing that you would normally realize under heavy load *after* it's been released to the public. So the code recommendations are great but I get almost as much enjoyment out of his answers to my follow-up questions about his recommendations.

More generally, Claude (specifically Sonnet 4.6), ChatGPT's latest model (4.6?), Google Gemini, etc.. They are all getting very good at responding like a human would. When I want to kill time, I'll ask something like.. "Pls rekindle my interest in learning Linux, specifically with Raspberry Pi hardware". Or, as I mentioned in an earlier post, asking Claude how he generates answers is pretty interesting too.

I'm guessing it would be very helpful for learning school subjects... kind of a Khan Academy (remember that site.. my kids loved it) on steroids.
 
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I have been a ChatGPT subscriber for about a year now and to be honest I barely scratch the surface with it. I use it as a glorified google search engine. That said, I've become increasingly frustrated with it lately as it has straight up lied to me about a couple of things, and though I prompt it to not answer confidently unless it is and to use brevity more often, it ultimately results back to its default eventually.

I haven't spent any time time playing with Anthropic, Gemini, Grok, etc. and am wondering if I should consider switching to another platform? I don't like the idea of learning a new system or starting from scratch on familiarizing a new system with my history, but I also don't want to be using an inferior system just because I'm too lazy to change.

Thoughts or suggestions from anyone who has used multiple models?


If you are using it for legal purposes you should check out Harvey.


AI is taking over e-discovery. It's already put lots of review attorneys out of jobs, my guess is it will reduce that labor force by 80% within 3-4 years.
 

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If you are using it for legal purposes you should check out Harvey.


AI is taking over e-discovery. It's already put lots of review attorneys out of jobs, my guess is it will reduce that labor force by 80% within 3-4 years.

I just use it for bare bones purposes. Think of the dumbest questions you would ask Google, Reddit, and YouTube. That's what I use it for. Projects around the house, research on big purchases, troubleshooting, etc.
 

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I just use it for bare bones purposes. Think of the dumbest questions you would ask Google, Reddit, and YouTube. That's what I use it for. Projects around the house, research on big purchases, troubleshooting, etc.


It's incredible! I just had to take two AI certification exams for my job. The first one I bought an answer key for the released questions for ~20 bucks. Second one I just dumped the questions into Chat GPT and it spat out the answers (for free of course) in 10 seconds. I laughed at myself.

I've used it at work multiple times, mostly to word something I'm struggling with. Use it to write emails to a soccer team I'm coaching. Hell, even used it to polish up my mothers eulogy earlier this year.

We are just beginning to see the impacts, not sure we can fully comprehend how things may change.
 

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We are just beginning to see the impacts, not sure we can fully comprehend how things may change.
Agreed. There will be improvements in some regards but it'll be accompanied by unemployment levels that we've probably never seen before. I'm not sure which jobs/careers are safe in the long run either.
 

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I don't use either of them, but I've heard that Claude is "better" than ChatGPT.