And so it begins....

[thunderclap]

Chief Brown goes to OM camp and gets a commitable offer. Rumors fly he has committed to OM and everybody goes crazy even though he has no commitable offer from Mullen. Chief goes to State camp today and BDJ reports he ran a 4.77. Twice. So he's still not getting a commitable offer from Mullen. Hours later, Yancy, who was not there,posts that BDJ, who was standing there when he ran the forty both times, is lying.

Like sands through the hour glass....

 

[thunderclap]

Chief Brown goes to OM camp and gets a commitable offer. Rumors fly he has committed to OM and everybody goes crazy even though he has no commitable offer from Mullen. Chief goes to State camp today and BDJ reports he ran a 4.77. Twice. So he's still not getting a commitable offer from Mullen. Hours later, Yancy, who was not there,posts that BDJ, who was standing there when he ran the forty both times, is lying.

Like sands through the hour glass....

 

[Joringel]

[No message]

 

[jackstefano]

asdf

 

[RipleyReb.sixpack]

Don't know who's pulling who's leg, but Chief ran 4.5-4.55 at OM's camp, thus got the offer. Had he ran 4.7's, I can only assume he wouldn't have an offer from OM. Maybe he sandbagged at State to keep them off his back? Doesn't really matter, he's going to be a Rebel as of now.

 

[AlCoDog]

Don't know who's pulling who's leg, but Chief ran 4.5-4.55 at OM's camp, thus got the offer. Had he ran 4.7's, I can only assume he wouldn't have an offer from OM.

Maybe he sandbagged at State to keep them off his back?

Doesn't really matter, he's going to be a Rebel as of now.

Yeah, that's it.

 

[TR.sixpack]

nm

 

[patdog]

He sandbagged his times at the MSU camp? Seriously?

 

[RipleyReb.sixpack]

he ran 4.5's at OM and 4.7's at State. I don't blame Mullen for not offering him based on those numbers. I also know the OM coaching staff doesn't have to inflate numbers to justify offering a kid. If they think he's good enough, he gets the offer. I was not trying to be smart at all about the sandbagging comment, just trying to come up with a reason for the difference in times...I realize it could have been anything. Sorry to offend you.

 

[AlCoDog]

It would be really impressive to sandbag .20 off a forty time. How does someone let up just that much? That is serious speed control.I'm not offended, that's just ignorant.

 

[Duckmandawg]

It would be really impressive to sandbag .20 off a forty time. How does someone let up just that much? That is serious speed control.I'm not offended, that's just ignorant.

Exactly AlCo. That's not offensive at all, it's just literally one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

 

[Duckmandawg]

he ran 4.5's at OM and 4.7's at State. I don't blame Mullen for not offering him based on those numbers. I also know the OM coaching staff doesn't have to inflate numbers to justify offering a kid. If they think he's good enough, he gets the offer. I was not trying to be smart at all about the sandbagging comment, just trying to come up with a reason for the difference in times...I realize it could have been anything. Sorry to offend you.

How about he just isn't as good as you and your Rebel cronies think he is? Did you think about that as a reason? Maybe he will be the next Herschel Walker, but he may also never start an SEC game.

 

[RipleyReb.sixpack]

I don't think he would have said "I think I'll run a 4.77 today", maybe he justdidn't go all out and that's the time he came up with...IF the sandbag was on, which I know wasn't. However, Chief, himself, said he ran 4.57 (1st run) and 4.56 (2nd run) today at State right in front of Mullen. These times fall in line with what he ran at OM.So, withthat being said, whoeversaid he ran 4.77 is in direct conflict on times with the player himself. Maybe one of your boys in Winona can give Chief a call and see what'sup, as I only have access to the OM side of the story.

 

[RipleyReb.sixpack]

it's why did he run 4.5's at OM and 4.7's at State. Do you have an explanation?

 

[Duckmandawg]

However, Chief, himself, said he ran 4.57 (1st run) and 4.56 (2nd run) today at State right in front of Mullen. These times fall in line with what he ran at OM.

uhhhh no he didn't.<div>
</div><div>Ripley, do you really believe that crap you are reading? Yancy wasn't there he is making stuff up. I talked to someone who was there and is a hs coach and he said the 4.77 is legit and no way Chief ran 4.56. And for what it's worth to you this coach is not an MSU fan.

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[AlCoDog]

he was going to commit to State the day after signing day, and then was asked to hold off on doing so? Why would he not go all out so he could tell State to "17 off, you had your chance?" Makes much more sense that he wouldn't go hard because he didn't feel like State pestering him. I'm going by a guy who says he was there and saw all the recorded times. He wasn't timing him himself or anything.

Back to my point, I know he didn't say he was going to run a 4.77 specifically, but who could let up that small of an amount.Do you really not understand why your statement is ridiculolus?

 

[RipleyReb.sixpack]

nt

 

[AlCoDog]

no doubt

 

[skydawg1]

The reality is probably somewhere in between the two times. And if that's the case, no wonder he has no MSU offer. <div>
</div><div>My bad, BDJ, not Gene.</div>

 

[Duckmandawg]

it's why did he run 4.5's at OM and 4.7's at State. Do you have an explanation?

I can tell you that Mullen and co have been suspect of Chief's speed all along. Hence why he doesn't have an MSU offer. If he was 6-2 and 220# then 4.77 is respectable. At 6-1 and 190# that is ridiculous slow. Today Mullen was hoping this would change with a good workout by Chief. It didn't Chief ran a 4.77 and didn't get an offer and so he took the only offer he had......OM. Remember Ripley this kid wanted to come to State and begged to get an offer, but didn't get one. Mullen wanted this kid, but was too suspect of a kid of that size that was that slow and again this is why he didn't get the MSU offer today that he hoped to get. Good luck to him at OM.

 

[patdog]

it's why did he run 4.5's at OM and 4.7's at State. Do you have an explanation?

Maybe because we used real time and Mississippi used inflated high school recruiting time? Just a guess.

 

[AlCoDog]

BDJ reporting that time

 

[Duckmandawg]

The reality is probably somewhere in between the two times. And if that's the case, no wonder he has no MSU offer.

It wasn't Gene that reported this. And yes this is why he didn't get an offer.

 

[RipleyReb.sixpack]

if someone atOM is lying then I'm way out of bounds on this. But I know Chief did not have an OM offer until the camp and whatever he did there was enough to get the offer. Whatever the case, it's clear that State thinks he too slow and OM thinks he worth an offer. It works better this way, we can both move on to the next one. Take care.

 

[Interpol]

I mean, I don't know this Brown kid from any other 18-year old ******* that I couldn't care less about, but that's pretty %%!*!%+ weak too.

Someone told me MSU offered this kid sometime last year and has been on him since. Sounds like a lot of @@%#%$* effort for someone that you don't really want.

I don't think he's going to play offense at Ole Miss either.

 

[Fratrebel]

Now he doesn't have a "committable offer." At one point state fans were in the bathroom with a roll of toilet paper jerking off to the Chief.<div>
</div><div>Gene also said Tobias doesn't have an offer from state. I have some ocean front property in Arizona if you're interested.</div>

 

[Todd4State]

I have a couple of things to say about this:

1. As far as the time, Yancy may have lied about that. I have no clue, and I really don't give a crap. But, IF the times are legit, it's very possible that he had a bad running. It happens. 4.5 and 4.7 are not totally way off- basically the guy runs a 4.6. It also matters how the time was taken, which is also a variable.

2. I think the 40 time thing, while valuable, is kind of blown out of proportion at all levels of football. The posterchild for this is Jerry Rice. I'm much more interested in whether the guy can play football or not. As a State fan, if Dan doesn't feel like he warrants a commitable offer based on his playing ability, so be it. It's not like Mississippi is devoid of of players that are athletes that can play WR and RB every year. If it blows up in Dan's face, it's on him, and he should be criticized. Likewise, if Nutt offers this guy, and he sucks, he should also be critcized for it. Personally, I trust Dan on this until proven otherwise. Would I like to have him? Sure. I bet he is a pretty good player, and may be a good college player. At the same time, if the staff feels like there is someone better, by all means, they should go after him.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

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[Homer J Simpson IV]

he was going to commit to State the day after signing day, and then was asked to hold off on doing so? Why would he not go all out so he could tell State to "17 off, you had your chance?" Makes much more sense that he wouldn't go hard because he didn't feel like State pestering him. I'm going by a guy who says he was there and saw all the recorded times. He wasn't timing him himself or anything.

Seems to me like you might've made the Ole Miss case. Both sides had this guy pegged for State all along it seems. Given that Brown "has no committable offer," MSU "did not offer Singleton" (if true, a stupid move) and, if memory serves right, Sanders' offer was pulled at the last second last year, is it completely out of the realm of possibility that the MSU staff lowballed Brown's 40 times, given that word of his commitment to Ole Miss leaked a few days ago, to make the fanbase believe it lost a prospect it really didn't want but Ole Miss coveted?<div>
</div><div>Don't know that that's what happened, but remember, speculation is welcome here.</div><div>
</div><div>Call me crazy, but one of our walkons turned down an offer from State. You think Nutt's going to offer a scholarship to a guy not worthy of one?

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[AlCoDog]

All the non commitableoffer talk was back in February, so not like it is just coming out. Long before the Ole Miss offer. Regardless, the whole point was that Ripley says he was sandbaging his 40 time which is ludicrous. I'm sure he will be awesome.</p>

 

[AlCoDog]

The non taking his commit was all back in Febrauray. This is not new info after teh Ole Miss offer, but whatever makes you feel better.Take your boner and jerking off over 18 year old boystalk somewhere else.

 

[AlCoDog]

of course he could have had a bad day, which is probably exactly what happened, but Ripley is saying he had a bad day on purpose. That is dumb as ****.

 

[RipleyReb.sixpack]

Alco, I'm well past the sandbagging comment and it seems everyone is in agreement that OM and State have different evaluations on Chief Brown. Got anything else you want to talk about?

 

[SnakePlissken]

As much of a homer as McCready is I would believe him over Yancey. He said our numbers are probably right for Chief based on what he saw of him at the OM camp.
This is per 7dust on BDJ, who has a subscription to all national sites.

 

[olemissbydamn]

You guys offered this guy in September of last year and have looked to be his leader since then. Now that he commits to us, he is too slow and doesn't have a commitable offer. But at the same time you are pressing a kid to commit who self reports similar speed except for the fact that he has a badly broken ankle that threatens his career. That makes a lot of sense. Read the quotes below and tell me if this kid wants to go to MSU or if he's settling because of a broken ankle.

Byrd won't be taking part in the camp. He arrived on crutches and in a
cast after being sidelined with a broken leg that could keep him out of
action anywhere from six weeks to six months.

"That let me down a
little bit and a lot of schools didn't accept that I was hurt," Byrd
said. "Mississippi State said that they would like me to go ahead and
commit and they would take it."

"I'm going to go ahead and commit and get it out of the way," Byrd said.
"It'll probably be tomorrow."
http://www.olemiss.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1093695

So how did the kid above do in the 40 this weekend?

Another question...why did you guys offer Chief in September of last year and repeatedly bring him on visits if you didn't want him? And it isn't like this is the first camp he's participated in at MSU. He went to your camp as a junior and you offered shortly after. So I assume he ran well enough for an offer. Go read through the articles linked on his scout and rivals profile from when your writers kept updating his recruitment.

http://mississippistate.s...&c=1&nid=4539687

he Bulldogs already have two 2011 commitments from the Magnolia State
and are on the verge of adding a third. Winona, Miss., junior Chelarvez
Brown intends to commit to MSU on Feb. 13 as an early Valentine
Day's present for Dan Mullen.

"(Mullen
and Mark
Hudspeth) came up to the school and told me that they wanted me to
commit on February 13th for their junior day," Brown said. "I think I'm
going to commit because they offered me a scholarship on September 1st. I
like their system, I like their coaches and I like how they play the
game. I guess I will be an early Valentine's Day present for Mississippi
State."
http://olemiss.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1044337

Yeah, the above sounds like a guy your staff didn't want.

 

[AlCoDog]

You made a dumbass comment, and got called out on it. Now you're past it and want to talk about something else. I'm sorry you're a crawfishing fool.
I agree, State and Ole Miss have different evaluations. That seems pretty obvious.I think Chief will probably be a good player at some point. I also believe State found somebody they wanted more.I really don't care what the reason is. Doesn't mean Chief isn't good. I have never seen the kid with my own eyes, so I'm going to have to trust our coaches on this one that they are going in another direction.

I guess we could talk about SEC expansion or something.</p>

 

[AlCoDog]

nm

 

[olemissbydamn]

*

 

[Todd4State]

of course he could have had a bad day, which is probably exactly what happened, but Ripley is saying he had a bad day on purpose. That is dumb as ****.

It's not like you have to take a scholarship if it's offered you.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Wait...maybe I have that backwards.