And now, Jeff Sessions for AG

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The man who the GOP-controlled Senate once considered too racist to be a Federal judge, has been put forward to be leader of the Justice department.

The New York Times kindly calls him "a conservative." Given his views on the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, (among other laws furthering the cause of equality) I'd call him reactionary.

I was listening to political commentary on WTOP about Sessions' nomination, and the analyst wondered how he would approach the disconnect between Federal and State marijuana laws if he does get confirmed - now there is a State's Rights issue for you. [winking]
 

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The man who the GOP-controlled Senate once considered too racist to be a Federal judge, has been put forward to be leader of the Justice department.

The New York Times kindly calls him "a conservative." Given his views on the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, (among other laws furthering the cause of equality) I'd call him reactionary.

I was listening to political commentary on WTOP about Sessions' nomination, and the analyst wondered how he would approach the disconnect between Federal and State marijuana laws if he does get confirmed - now there is a State's Rights issue for you. [winking]
As a "racist" he should never be qualified for any position higher than highest ranking member of the Senate, since KKK Grand Dragon fits that job just swell.
 

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As a "racist" he should never be qualified for any position higher than highest ranking member of the Senate, since KKK Grand Dragon fits that job just swell.

Sessions was "Borked" by the Dems. He is no racist. Those charges were debunked long, long ago. Yet, Robert Byrd, Grand Dragon of the KKK, was their Majority Leader, lol.
 

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The man who the GOP-controlled Senate once considered too racist to be a Federal judge, has been put forward to be leader of the Justice department.

The New York Times kindly calls him "a conservative." Given his views on the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, (among other laws furthering the cause of equality) I'd call him reactionary.

I was listening to political commentary on WTOP about Sessions' nomination, and the analyst wondered how he would approach the disconnect between Federal and State marijuana laws if he does get confirmed - now there is a State's Rights issue for you. [winking]

Can't be any worse than what we've had, though where his office will come down on the changing state laws in regards to marijuana laws will be interesting.
 

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Can't be any worse than what we've had, though where his office will come down on the changing state laws in regards to marijuana laws will be interesting.
The marijuana situation should be interesting. I think the count is up to 28 states that at least have medical marijuana legalized. That includes some very populous states, and most of those swing states that Trump took in this election. I believe all of those were passed by popular vote too, so it could become a pretty big issue if DOJ started to crack down on people in those states.
 
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And I can post a 1,000 articles claiming he is not a racist including from an African American law maker that worked directly with Sessions in Alabama.
congratulations. how do you square the fact that the gop-controlled senate denied him a fed judgeship in 86 because of alleged racism?
 
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Would you like to place a wager on his nomination? Bork was likewise destroyed by lies. That's what Dems do.

Even left wing Politico agrees:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/jeff-sessions-attorney-general-confirmation-231602
Ha! Now who was talking about changing the subject earlier? ....

In 1986, Reagan nominated Sessions to be a judge of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Alabama.[12] Sessions's judicial nomination was recommended and actively backed by Republican Alabama Senator Jeremiah Denton.[13] A substantial majority of the American Bar Association Standing Committee on the Federal Judiciary, which rates nominees to the federal bench, rated Sessions "qualified," with a minority voting that Sessions was "not qualified."[14]

At Sessions' confirmation hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee, four Department of Justice lawyers who had worked with Sessions testified that he had made several racist statements. One of those lawyers, J. Gerald Hebert, testified that Sessions had referred to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) as "un-American" and "Communist-inspired" because they "forced civil rights down the throats of people."[15]

Thomas Figures, a black Assistant U.S. Attorney, testified that Sessions said he thought the Ku Klux Klan was "OK until I found out they smoked pot." Sessions later said that the comment was not serious, but did apologize for it.[16] Figures also testified that on one occasion, when the U.S. Department of Justice Civil Rights Division sent the office instructions to investigate a case that Sessions had tried to close, Figures and Sessions "had a very spirited discussion regarding how the Hodge case should then be handled; in the course of that argument, Mr. Sessions threw the file on a table, and remarked, 'I wish I could decline on all of them,'" by which Figures said Sessions meant civil rights cases generally. After becoming Ranking Member of the Judiciary Committee, Sessions was asked in an interview about his civil rights record as a U.S Attorney. He denied that he had not sufficiently pursued civil rights cases, saying that "when I was [a U.S. Attorney], I signed 10 pleadings attacking segregation or the remnants of segregation, where we as part of the Department of Justice, we sought desegregation remedies."[17]

Figures also said that Sessions had called him "boy."[12] He also testified that "Mr. Sessions admonished me to 'be careful what you say to white folks.'"[18] Sessions was also reported to have called a white civil rights attorney a "disgrace to his race."[19]

Sessions responded to the testimony by denying the allegations, saying his remarks were taken out of context or meant in jest, and also stating that groups could be considered un-American when "they involve themselves in un-American positions" on foreign policy. Sessions said during testimony that he considered the Klan to be "a force for hatred and bigotry." In regards to the marijuana quote, Sessions said the comment was a joke but apologized.[16]

In response to a question from Joe Biden on whether he had called the NAACP and other civil rights organizations "un-American", Sessions replied "I'm often loose with my tongue. I may have said something about the NAACP being un-American or Communist, but I meant no harm by it."[14]

On June 5, 1986, the Committee voted 10–8 against recommending the nomination to the Senate floor, with Republican Senators Charles Mathias of Maryland and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania voting with the Democrats. It then split 9–9 on a vote to send Sessions' nomination to the Senate floor with no recommendation, this time with Specter in support. A majority was required for the nomination to proceed.[20] The pivotal votes against Sessions came from his home state's Democratic Senator Howell Heflin of Alabama (ironically, Sessions would succeed Heflin in the Senate just a decade later). Although Heflin had previously backed Sessions, he began to oppose Sessions after hearing testimony, concluding that there were "reasonable doubts" over Sessions' ability to be "fair and impartial." The nomination was withdrawn on July 31, 1986.[14]
 

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I'm not changing subjects. I am saying he's not a racist and he will be confirmed. Again, if you'd like to wager, I'm game.
 
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I'm not changing subjects. I am saying he's not a racist and he will be confirmed. Again, if you'd like to wager, I'm game.
LOL! Apparently the GOP controlled Senate Judiciary Committee disagreed on the racism issue. I have no doubt he will be confirmed. I think you're losing it.[roll]:cool2:
 

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LOL! Apparently the GOP controlled Senate Judiciary Committee disagreed on the racism issue. I have no doubt he will be confirmed. I think you're losing it.[roll]:cool2:

No, you're losing it because your felon lost. Sessions will be approved. The DOJ corruption will end. All Dems think conservatives are racists. That charge is water off a duck's back.

Holder was much more racist than Sessions. Not even close.
 

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The man who the GOP-controlled Senate once considered too racist to be a Federal judge, has been put forward to be leader of the Justice department.

The New York Times kindly calls him "a conservative." Given his views on the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, (among other laws furthering the cause of equality) I'd call him reactionary.

I was listening to political commentary on WTOP about Sessions' nomination, and the analyst wondered how he would approach the disconnect between Federal and State marijuana laws if he does get confirmed - now there is a State's Rights issue for you. [winking]
Is everything and everybody wrong who do not agree with you? Do you really think you have all the answers? Assuming you are right and have the opportunity, Who would you appoint AG. Please don't stop, who should be seated for every position you are in disagreement.

Damn, it is so easy to judge others when you don't have the balls to name correct person. There are a few like you who think they have the answer, but won't expose the correction.
 
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No, you're losing it because your felon lost. Sessions will be approved. The DOJ corruption will end. All Dems think conservatives are racists. That charge is water off a duck's back.

Holder was much more racist than Sessions. Not even close.
 
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Is everything and everybody wrong who do not agree with you? Do you really think you have all the answers? Assuming you are right and have the opportunity, Who would you appoint AG. Please don't stop, who should be seated for every position you are in disagreement.

Damn, it is so easy to judge others when you don't have the balls to name correct person. There are a few like you who think they have the answer, but won't expose the correction.
 

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Is everything and everybody wrong who do not agree with you? Do you really think you have all the answers? Assuming you are right and have the opportunity, Who would you appoint AG. Please don't stop, who should be seated for every position you are in disagreement.

Damn, it is so easy to judge others when you don't have the balls to name correct person. There are a few like you who think they have the answer, but won't expose the correction.
I would ask you the same questions about disagreement - is everybody who doesn't toe your line wrong? Facts are pesky things - I'm not the one who judged Sessions to racist for the Federal bench, Republican Senators did, based on his record. All I did was relate those facts. And if I were the president-elect I damn sure wouldn't be nominating someone for AG who was rejected based on opposition to laws he would have to have sworn to uphold.
 
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I would ask you the same questions. Facts are pesky things - I'm not the one who judged Sessions to racist for the Federal bench, Republican Senators did, based on his record. If I were the president-elect I damn sure wouldn't be nominating someone for AG who was rejected based on opposition to laws he would have to have sworn to uphold.
Ouch!:popcorn:
 

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I would ask you the same questions about disagreement - is everybody who doesn't toe your line wrong? Facts are pesky things - I'm not the one who judged Sessions to racist for the Federal bench, Republican Senators did, based on his record. All I did was relate those facts. And if I were the president-elect I damn sure wouldn't be nominating someone for AG who was rejected based on opposition to laws he would have to have sworn to uphold.

Allegations were made by a former colleague. Zero evidence produced. We all know that people lie and they distort. You state facts are pesky things. What facts are you referring to? The statements are not facts, they are statements/assertions. Sessions denied them or said they were completely taken out of context. Bork was destroyed by the lies of Teddy Kennedy. Absolute lies. We all remember the paragon of virtue that Teddy was.

Sessions will be confirmed and some Senate Dems will vote for him. If they thought he was a racist, they wouldn't vote to confirm.

If I remember correctly, Clearance Thomas sits on SCOTUS despite the testimony of Anita Hill. One person's word against another isn't fact. And people have agendas. They lie. They mislead. Dems have used the racist card so often, people are ignoring it. Sessions has a history in the Senate that is an open book.
 
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Allegations were made by a former colleague. Zero evidence produced. We all know that people lie and they distort. You state facts are pesky things. What facts are you referring to? The statements are not facts, they are statements/assertions. Sessions denied them or said they were completely taken out of context. Bork was destroyed by the lies of Teddy Kennedy. Absolute lies. We all remember the paragon of virtue that Teddy was.

Sessions will be confirmed and some Senate Dems will vote for him. If they thought he was a racist, they wouldn't vote to confirm.

If I remember correctly, Clearance Thomas sits on SCOTUS despite the testimony of Anita Hill. One person's word against another isn't fact. And people have agendas. They lie. They mislead. Dems have used the racist card so often, people are ignoring it. Sessions has a history in the Senate that is an open book.
It's hilarious your fixation with Bork-a man with no principles who obeyed Nixon's orders to fire Cox after two other AGs refused to do so. How'd that all work out, einstein?
 

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No, you're losing it because your felon lost. Sessions will be approved. The DOJ corruption will end. All Dems think conservatives are racists. That charge is water off a duck's back.

Holder was much more racist than Sessions. Not even close.
You are about to be charged as a racist. That wins and all discussion comes to an end. Proof is not a requirement, so, it is said that Holder used "N" in more stories than has Sessions. No doubt we can get a thousand people who have heard the remarks. No doubt the current AG is gay - for all things Clinton.

Speaking of Bork, there was one black lady who tried her damnedest to kill the only black man on the court. It would have been a country's shame to lose the Thomas contribution. He was supposed to have a character flaw and he had a double kick in the ***. Claimant was both a woman and black. That would have eliminated 85% of other candidates, but he probably survived because he is black. Irony, anybody? Hang with us Judge Thomas - great man.
 

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It's hilarious your fixation with Bork-a man with no principles who obeyed Nixon's orders to fire Cox after two other AGs refused to do so. How'd that all work out, einstein?

Sensitive I see. Kennedy lied. Bork was imminently qualified and was perhaps the foremost Constitutional scholar of his time. The Dems lied. And you completely mislead about Bork and Cox.

"That left Bork, whose main job was arguing in front of the Supreme Court and who also was the third-ranking Justice Department official. Bork says his initial inclination was to fire Cox (which he believe Nixon had the authority to do) and then resign so as not to be seen as a White House toady. He says Attorney General Richardson and his second in line, Ruckelshaus, encouraged him to stay on for the good of the Justice Department." Both Richardson and Ruckelshaus resigned but wanted Bork to stay on.

You are a consummate purveyor of lies and half truths to try and deceive. You're also not very bright. How is that glasses fitting business of yours going? I heard you can't afford the fees for the blue lot. Too bad.
 
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I would ask you the same questions about disagreement - is everybody who doesn't toe your line wrong? Facts are pesky things - I'm not the one who judged Sessions to racist for the Federal bench, Republican Senators did, based on his record. All I did was relate those facts. And if I were the president-elect I damn sure wouldn't be nominating someone for AG who was rejected based on opposition to laws he would have to have sworn to uphold.
Specter was the one who initiated the term RINO. He was whatever could get him elected at the time. Granted, he was (R) a lot of the time, and he was never accused of never selling his vote for any favor he could garner. So, you have no one to offer positively, you are just going to be negative toward Sessions. Pretty much as predicted you have nothing positive, but you can easily shout no. That is not much help.

No, I have been proven wrong a time or two. I limit it because I do not crucify most because I disagree with their politics. Jeff Sessions is a highly respected man in his community and congress. And to prove that, he will be approved to the seat. It will then become a department we can all be proud of. He will do the job justice. That is not something you can say about the last few occupants - with integrity.
 
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Sensitive I see. Kennedy lied. Bork was imminently qualified and was perhaps the foremost Constitutional scholar of his time. The Dems lied. And you completely mislead about Bork and Cox.

"That left Bork, whose main job was arguing in front of the Supreme Court and who also was the third-ranking Justice Department official. Bork says his initial inclination was to fire Cox (which he believe Nixon had the authority to do) and then resign so as not to be seen as a White House toady. He says Attorney General Richardson and his second in line, Ruckelshaus, encouraged him to stay on for the good of the Justice Department." Both Richardson and Ruckelshaus resigned but wanted Bork to stay on.

You are a consummate purveyor of lies and half truths to try and deceive. You're also not very bright. How is that glass fitting business of yours going? I heard you can't afford the fees for the blue lot. Too bad.
That's your case supporting Bork? Really? Good job! [pfftt]He was a Nixon lackey and history has shown as much. Richardson and co stood up to Nixon and did what was right. They resigned refusing to do the wrong thing. Bork....not so much. How'd that all turn out, anyway? Good job! You're on a roll today!
 

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That's your case supporting Bork? Really? Good job! [pfftt]He was a Nixon lackey and history has shown as much. Richardson and co stood up to Nixon and did what was right. They resigned refusing to do the wrong thing. Bork....not so much. How'd that all turn out, anyway? Good job! You're on a roll today!

Like I said, you're not very smart. Don't know history.
 

Mntneer

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The man who the GOP-controlled Senate once considered too racist to be a Federal judge, has been put forward to be leader of the Justice department.

The New York Times kindly calls him "a conservative." Given his views on the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, (among other laws furthering the cause of equality) I'd call him reactionary.

I was listening to political commentary on WTOP about Sessions' nomination, and the analyst wondered how he would approach the disconnect between Federal and State marijuana laws if he does get confirmed - now there is a State's Rights issue for you. [winking]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/in-al...he-death-penalty-for-kkk-head/article/2005461
 

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Sessions's actual track record certainly doesn't suggest he's a racist. Quite the opposite, in fact. As a U.S. Attorney he filed several cases to desegregate schools in Alabama. And he also prosecuted the head of the state Klan, Henry Francis Hays, for abducting and killing Michael Donald, a black teenager selected at random. Sessions insisted on the death penalty for Hays. When he was later elected the state Attorney General, Sessions followed through and made sure Hays was executed. The successful prosecution of Hays also led to a $7 million civil judgment against the Klan, effectively breaking the back of the KKK in Alabama.
He was one of the only Republican senators to support Eric Holder's nomination for attorney general.