An interesting re-tweet from Corey Sanders

Local Shill

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I think we could all live without these subtle threats. I mean, what the hell has Greg frickin' Vetrone ever accomplished that Corey is so attached to him?


&quot;No Vetrone No SANDERS&quot; ‼️‼️‼️‼️</p>&mdash; #Humble (@YodiDontdoit) <a href="">March 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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doubleflyer

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Get rid of this kid, he is not about the team. Let someone else deal with his nonsense and build a staff and team that wants to play and win for each other. That is how you build a winning program.
 

Local Shill

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Get rid of this kid, he is not about the team. Let someone else deal with his nonsense and build a staff and team that wants to play and win for each other. That is how you build a winning program.

To be clear, Corey didn't tweet that. One of his cronies did..and Corey re-tweeted it. I don't want to pile on Corey...love the kid as a player but he doesn't need to getting behind comments like that.
 

megadrone

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It's early, and it's a difficult time for Corey, but won't be the first time this happens to him if he plays professionally. Don't make a rash decision, but we an be a 10-12 win team with or without him.
 

MADHAT1

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Apr 1, 2003
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Lets see how this plays out after Pikiell talks to him, instead of kicking him off the team for his retweet.
Oh wait, overreacting is part of being a RU MBB fan
 

AreYouNUTS

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Original tweet, or re-tweet, the message is the same and it just made things VERY clear IMHO. If I'm Coach Pikiell and hear about this I sit the young man down, TODAY, and have a very, very long talk with him (even if he has already done so...). Very, very disappointed in Corey at this moment. SMH.
 

NewJerseyHawk

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This is what it takes at certain levels of competition for players at this quality level......Seton Hall hired Whitehead's HS/AAU coach.....was it against the rules....??? No, but it got the desired results after Year 2....so are we going to ignore this and ignore what every other program does to get players at this level??

So are we saying we shouldn't look at hiring the best potential assistant coach candidates that are connected to the highest number of quality local players that would consider playing for RU?? I keep seeing we need a "recruiting shark" and then suddenly when the player potentially or indirectly prefers or wants a coach or "shark" that he likes or is familiar with to stick around, we want to jump all over the player. Should Sanders retweet it....probably not, but I'd rather have the player do that, vs. trying to guess where he stands on the topic and getting blindsided at the 11th hour.

The one thing that I feel is necessary as a fan base here is to adjust the mindset if you are serious about winning.....fans in recent days are not liking my posts because it's somehow not what they want to hear or see or read, but I also would not over think things. OR we can't have it both ways....we are either going to like every other program with two feet in the water, or we continue to languish behind the rest of the Power 5 conferences and others....

We hired a football trainer with 100% intentions that he would help RU in football recruiting for classes in 2016 and beyond....he was never a coach, but someone connected to specific recruits....Then Michigan goes and hires the same potential HS coach we considered hiring, because the perception (whether real or imagined), is that the coach would help land kids for that school.

Do you want to continue to finish in the bottom quarter or half of the conference in both sports or are we going to go with the flow of what college athletics has become. I am not judging or stating that fans should feel "put-off" by the tweet, but Sanders seems like an engaging personality and even with enough swagger to overcome whatever happens.....but if you prefer to win faster, you do so with Sanders here, vs thinking you are going to land the next Sanders by hiring his AAU coach or an assistant that has an "in" on the next big-time talent.
 

RoxboroughKnight

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Give it time. At one point wasn't Darius Hamilton saying he didn't want to be here if Flood wasn't? Now it sounds like Hamilton is all-in on Ash. I personally think Shoes should be kept, but if he gets let go it's up to Pikiell to convince the players to buy in to the new staff.
 
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Corey Sanders has enormous talent. He is a kid who dances at halftime when his team is getting humiliated vs. Purdue. The face of our program can't be this. The foundation can't be built with individuals.

Give Corey what he wants. I'm tired of Rutgers trying to put kids in their place. Every other program makes concessions to Elite recruits, why can't Rutgers.
 
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RUChoppin

Heisman
Dec 1, 2006
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I honestly don't care whether Vetrone stays or not - that's up to Pikiell to decide.

It was an immature thing to do for a player who really needs to grow the hell up, and fast. He's had a year in college under his belt, and is set to be the team leader next year and star player as a rising sophomore. Clearly two suspensions and a year with EJ didn't do much to add maturity.
 

B1GNJHoops

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Who said anything about hiring AAU coaches?

How about a legit assistant who's well respected among his peers?

Also we criticized Willard and Hall for taking shortcuts but use them to support our arguments today?

I thought you said recruiting rankings were overrated or overplayed by the media? What about the idea that good players can be discovered anywhere not just locally? So then why do we care about one player tied to one assistant, a player who might not come back anyway or is here just one more season?

Lot of mixed messages here.
 
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littlenis5

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Isn't it also alarming that he seems to be in Florida right now and not in class? He tweeted yesterday that he was playing ball at a park in Lakeland (tweet has been deleted) and today he retweeted a video of him working out with a trainer there as well.
 
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AreYouNUTS

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This is what it takes at certain levels of competition for players at this quality level......Seton Hall hired Whitehead's HS/AAU coach.....was it against the rules....??? No, but it got the desired results after Year 2....so are we going to ignore this and ignore what every other program does to get players at this level??

So are we saying we shouldn't look at hiring the best potential assistant coach candidates that are connected to the highest number of quality local players that would consider playing for RU?? I keep seeing we need a "recruiting shark" and then suddenly when the player potentially or indirectly prefers or wants a coach or "shark" that he likes or is familiar with to stick around, we want to jump all over the player. Should Sanders retweet it....probably not, but I'd rather have the player do that, vs. trying to guess where he stands on the topic and getting blindsided at the 11th hour.

The one thing that I feel is necessary as a fan base here is to adjust the mindset if you are serious about winning.....fans in recent days are not liking my posts because it's somehow not what they want to hear or see or read, but I also would not over think things. OR we can't have it both ways....we are either going to like every other program with two feet in the water, or we continue to languish behind the rest of the Power 5 conferences and others....

We hired a football trainer with 100% intentions that he would help RU in football recruiting for classes in 2016 and beyond....he was never a coach, but someone connected to specific recruits....Then Michigan goes and hires the same potential HS coach we considered hiring, because the perception (whether real or imagined), is that the coach would help land kids for that school.

Do you want to continue to finish in the bottom quarter or half of the conference in both sports or are we going to go with the flow of what college athletics has become. I am not judging or stating that fans should feel "put-off" by the tweet, but Sanders seems like an engaging personality and even with enough swagger to overcome whatever happens.....but if you prefer to win faster, you do so with Sanders here, vs thinking you are going to land the next Sanders by hiring his AAU coach or an assistant that has an "in" on the next big-time talent.

Hawk - NOBODY is saying any of this, in this thread, we're simply talking about Corey and the fact that, just maybe, he was a little disrespectful, et al, by re-tweeting this tweet. You want to talk to your new HC about this, fine, but keep it "in the family" IMHO. That's all buddy.
 
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AreYouNUTS

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Yeah spring break is over WTF Corey why aren't you back in NB (or were the pics taken when he was home??)?
 

Sweet Pea's Corner

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Isn't it also alarming that he seems to be in Florida right now and not in class? He tweeted yesterday that he was playing ball at a park in Lakeland (tweet has been deleted) and today he retweeted a video of him working out with a trainer there as well.


Spring break was last week as I thought I heard Pilkiell say. Why isnt he back? I saw him the other day on a hoverboard. Wish I had one.
 

RU82

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It seems to me that Shoes has actually done a solid job for us recruiting wise. And I read somewhere the Coach P has a relationship with him, so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he kept him on board. But that's totally up to Pike as far as I'm concerned. If he ends up dumping Shoes and loses Corey because of it I'm not going to get upset about it.
 

Mikemarc

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If this really is true and Corey is only committed to coach Shoes....I say get rid of him.

Don't need this drama on the team.
 
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BlockR

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Carino I think said Sanders had longer spring break worked out before he left..and for those who dont like bending some team guidelines to get better talent..welp, RU is in zero postion to take hard line on players and recruits Seton Hall didnt ... worked for them.
 

B1GNJHoops

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It seems to me that Shoes has actually done a solid job for us recruiting wise. And I read somewhere the Coach P has a relationship with him, so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he kept him on board. But that's totally up to Pike as far as I'm concerned. If he ends up dumping Shoes and loses Corey because of it I'm not going to get upset about it.

Rutgers needs 3-4 Corey's. We struggled to find more Big Ten players after he signed here.

The fact is we tried to capitalize on Sanders' commitment but Freeman was the only highly rated recruit to join up (if you're into recruiting offers and such things).

CBA is now run by Seton Hall guy and its Under Armour. St. John's and VCU have beaten us for recruits in the area.

Sanders was most likely an abberation. He was a risk and it paid off. Are we going to recruit risky kids moving forward hoping big schools back off like they did with Sanders?

Maybe it's time to switch it up.
 
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RUTG44

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This is what it takes at certain levels of competition for players at this quality level......Seton Hall hired Whitehead's HS/AAU coach.....was it against the rules....??? No, but it got the desired results after Year 2....so are we going to ignore this and ignore what every other program does to get players at this level??

So are we saying we shouldn't look at hiring the best potential assistant coach candidates that are connected to the highest number of quality local players that would consider playing for RU?? I keep seeing we need a "recruiting shark" and then suddenly when the player potentially or indirectly prefers or wants a coach or "shark" that he likes or is familiar with to stick around, we want to jump all over the player. Should Sanders retweet it....probably not, but I'd rather have the player do that, vs. trying to guess where he stands on the topic and getting blindsided at the 11th hour.

The one thing that I feel is necessary as a fan base here is to adjust the mindset if you are serious about winning.....fans in recent days are not liking my posts because it's somehow not what they want to hear or see or read, but I also would not over think things. OR we can't have it both ways....we are either going to like every other program with two feet in the water, or we continue to languish behind the rest of the Power 5 conferences and others....

We hired a football trainer with 100% intentions that he would help RU in football recruiting for classes in 2016 and beyond....he was never a coach, but someone connected to specific recruits....Then Michigan goes and hires the same potential HS coach we considered hiring, because the perception (whether real or imagined), is that the coach would help land kids for that school.

Do you want to continue to finish in the bottom quarter or half of the conference in both sports or are we going to go with the flow of what college athletics has become. I am not judging or stating that fans should feel "put-off" by the tweet, but Sanders seems like an engaging personality and even with enough swagger to overcome whatever happens.....but if you prefer to win faster, you do so with Sanders here, vs thinking you are going to land the next Sanders by hiring his AAU coach or an assistant that has an "in" on the next big-time talent.
It depends on the quality of the kid. I'm not convinced he'd be back even if Eddie stayed. This is an extremely immature kid who has had issues before he got to Rutgers and at Rutgers.
 
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AreYouNUTS

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Carino I think said Sanders had longer spring break worked out before he left..and for those who dont like bending some team guidelines to get better talent..welp, RU is in zero postion to take hard line on players and recruits Seton Hall didnt ... worked for them.

If he worked it out with his professors, et al, so he could be with his kid/family, then that's fine with me. All good, enjoy family-time, keep up with your studies Corey!
 
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