Alright. Who the DC gonna be?

[vandaldawg]

Gotta give Shannon a call, right?

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

Hadn’t even heard a peep of a rumor.

 

[ShrubDog]

Pruitts

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Somebody needs to get their *** to the Cheetah to get some info!

 

[engie]

I kinda like Leach's DC Grinch. It's the only position on staff that I'm not worried if a guy can recruit or not. Give me a mad scientist in that spot. Let the other 9 assistants do the recruiting.

If we're talking paying in the mid $1mil range, we can however reach a lot of guys we've never considered possible before. Kinda a new dynamic that I'm having a tough time adjusting to thinking-wise. Still got all the names from before on my mind even though we're at a different level now.

 

[Joe Schmedlap]

Sea change.
Just three years ago State was paying in the 625 to 650 thousand range when I felt we needed to be paying in the 850 to 875 thousand dollar range to attract top DC talent. Now we are talking 1.5 million. Wow! Is this bubble ever gonna burst?

By the way, what did State pay Grantham? I had heard it was in the 1.2 million dollar range. What was he offered to stay? What did UF offer to lure him there?

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

We are going to pay top dollar and have a bunch of talent returning on defense. I expect us to hire someone very qualified- I’d actually be shocked and highly disappointed if we didn’t.

And yes, it doesn’t really matter how well we recruit at this position. We need a schematic specialist on that side of the ball like Moorhead is on offense.

 

[engie]

Is this bubble ever gonna burst?

I was curious and did the math earlier. From 2009-2015(the most recent available data), our athletics dept showed a total net profit of 43,506,460. That's annual net revenue - annual net expenses. And it's missing the majority of the real SECNetwork money that we are making the past two years.

We are sitting beautifully financially now. And we've been great stewards of the money and in building up the nest egg.

 

[Todd4State]

I was curious and did the math earlier. From 2009-2015(the most recent available data), our athletics dept showed a total net profit of 43,506,460. That's annual net revenue - annual net expenses. And it's missing the majority of the real SECNetwork money that we are making the past two years.

We are sitting beautifully financially now. And we've been great stewards of the money and in building up the nest egg.

We also have the Leo Seal egg in the nest as well.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Had heard that we offered Grantham $1.3 to stay but NO confirmation. We need innovative and someone wanting to stay around and help build a program!

One of Dan's biggest problems was keeping a DC on his staff .. year-to-to year, they had 7 different systems in Mulletts 9 years

2009 Carl Torbush
2010 Manny Diaz (#1)
2011 Chris Wilson
2012 Chris Wilson
2013 Geoff Collins
2014 Geoff Collins
2015 Manny Diaz (#2)
2016 Peter Sirmon
2017 Todd Grantham

 

[HumpDawgy]

I like Vic Koenning at Troy. They were rated 17th in total defense and 10th in scoring defense. He has been DC at Troy, Wyoming, Clemson, Kansas State, and Illinois. He was Head coach of Wyoming from 2000-2002, but did not do well as HC.

Other names of note:

Pete Golding (UTSA) DC coaches CBs
Danny Gonzales (San Diego St) DC coaches safeties
Orlondo Steinauer (Fresno St) DC came from CFL and used to coach DBs
Tony Pecoraro (Southern Miss) DC coaches ILBs
Kevin Kane (N. Illinois) DC coaches safeties
Scottie Hazelton (Wyoming) DC coaches LBs

 

[RocketDawg]

I like Vic Koenning at Troy. They were rated 17th in total defense and 10th in scoring defense. He has been DC at Troy, Wyoming, Clemson, Kansas State, and Illinois. He was Head coach of Wyoming from 2000-2002, but did not do well as HC.

Other names of note:

Pete Golding (UTSA) DC coaches CBs
Danny Gonzales (San Diego St) DC coaches safeties
Orlondo Steinauer (Fresno St) DC came from CFL and used to coach DBs
Tony Pecoraro (Southern Miss) DC coaches ILBs
Kevin Kane (N. Illinois) DC coaches safeties
Scottie Hazelton (Wyoming) DC coaches LBs

Haven't we had Koenning before?

 

[Xenomorph]

....I had one in Engineering Materials...

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Rosebowl said his staff will be filled with lots of Southeast ties. Shannon has to be an obvious candidate.

 

[FlotownDawg]

That was Les Koenning. Offensive coordinator first few years of Don’s tenure. Not sure if they’re related.

 

[RocketDawg]

Could be. Koenning isn't exactly a popular name.

 

[HumpDawgy]

Haven't we had Koenning before?

Vic has never coached at State. That was Les who was OC. I'm not sure if they are related.

The other coaches I mentioned had defenses this year ranked in the top 25 in total defense. Only Southern Miss was not ranked in the top 25 in scoring defense. Obviously I excluded big name schools where we realistically have no shot at hiring their DC. I would be OK with Randy Shannon due to his prior achievements. This year was bad for his defense, but they did lose a lot of players before the season began due to the CC fraud stuff. As long as he is a clean recruiter, I would be ok with him on our staff.

 

[Southern Law Dawg]

With the cash that Joe only taking $2.7m frees up, I think we should be able to take a sitting P5 DC.

 

[engie]

We aren’t limited to the names mentioned if we are actually throwing around the kind of money that has been rumored. Don Brown makes $900k at Michigan. We wouldn’t have even called if we weren’t offering a big raise to that. Start tossing around a $1.2-$1.3 number and you only have Venables and Aranda making more. You can even conceivably talk to guys like Mel Tucker($900k) and force Georgia to really up the $$ to keep him.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Obviously I excluded big name schools where we realistically have no shot at hiring their DC.

#1 24/7 reporting that JoeMoor's contract in neighborhood of $2.7M+ and he has indicated that .. "He is less interested in $$ he makes and more interested in paying his assistants." Huge sea change!

#2 We were willing to go to $5M+ for Mullens and ~$1.3 for Grantham.

#3 Ergo .. We have plenty of $$ to go after 'whoever' we need to fill DC and other assistant jobs .. big name schools or not. It's been reported that DC Brown at Michigan was asked first because he had coached with JoeMoor before but elected to stay.

 

[tcdog70]

WHAT ABOUT RON ENGLISH?

 

[HumpDawgy]

WHAT ABOUT RON ENGLISH?

Not to bust on Coach English, but our safeties were a weak link this year, albeit on a good defense.

 

[HumpDawgy]

Here are the DCs with their total defense ranking (first #) and scoring D ranking (second #). I don't believe we can get any P5, especially with Moorhead's salary being low. Those coaches will want a lot more to come to State and you are not going to pay them more or near what the HC is making. Also, Cohen needs to hold that money (or the boosters do) for when Moorhead has a great season and deserves a big raise.


1/2 Jim Leonhard (Wisconsin) DC coaches DBs. Probably coaching in playoffs
2/1 Jeremy Pruitt (Bama) DC coaches ILBs. Seriously doubt he would come as DC when he was up for our HC. Maybe coaching in playoffs.
3/14 Don Brown (Michigan) DC and LBs
4/5 Mel Tucker (Georgia) DC and DBs. Another IB like Cohen, but he aint coming. Maybe coaching in playoffs.
5/6 Pete Kwiatkowski (Washington) DC and has coached DL previously.
6/4 Brent Venables (Clemson) DC coaches LBs. Same as Pruitt. Guy was up for our HC job and is coaching a year after year playoff program. Not coming. Probably coaching in playoffs.
7/11 Pete Golding (UTSA) DC coaches CBs. Possible we could get him.
8/20 Greg Schiano (Ohio State) DC coaches safeties. Aw Hell No!!!
9/23 Harlon Barnett (DBs) & Mike Tressel (LBs) (Michigan State). They are co-DCs
10/24 Todd Grantham (Miss. State) DC coached LBs. He has gone with Mullen unfortunately.
11/9 Kevin Steele (Auburn) DC coaches DBs. Probably coaching in playoffs
12/16 Danny Gonzales (San Diego St) DC coaches safeties. Possibly could get him.
13/3 Bud Foster (Va. Tech) DC coaches LBs. Long time Hokie. Not coming.
14/17 Dave Aranda (LSU) DC coaches ILBs.
15/48 Alex Grinch (Wash State) DC coaches DBs. Sound defense, but not exciting.
16/12 Orlondo Steinauer (Fresno St) DC who coached DBs in CFL previously. Probably could get him.
17/10 Vic Koenning (Troy) DC coaches safeties. I like this guy. I hope they go after him.
18/8 Chad Glasgow (TCU) DC coaches safeties. Patterson and staff seem to be set and stable.
19/38 Tony Pecoraro (Southern Miss) DC coaches LBs. Should get an interview.
20/27 Kevin Kane (N.Illinois) DC coaches safeties. Possibility.
21/7 Brent Pry (LBs) and Tim Banks (Safeties) (Penn State) Co-DCs. Think we would have heard if JoeMo was bringing one of these guys.
22/13 Scottie Hazelton (Wyoming) DC coaches LBs. I like this guy. Probably behind Koenning for me. I hope they contact him.
23/26 Jim Knowles (Duke) DC coaches LBs.
24/18 Chuck Heater (Marshall) DC coaches DBs. I have heard this name before.
25/41 Andy Avalos (Boise St) DC coaches LBs.

 

[Badon]

Moorhead: He said he could make 10 calls and fill the staff right now. But ... "I want to measure twice and cut once."

 

[HueFreeze]

Next DC will be someone that gave Penn St Offense trouble edit:dang looking at schedule not many gave penn st much trouble ...talk about relentless effort** ...he will be multiple

 

[Junction John]

As long as it's a defense that will stop all offenses, I'm good with it.**

/Crimedog

 

[state2013]

I'd throw over a million at alabama's assistant tosh lupoi. He's an Incredible recruiter too.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

Same here.

 

[HumpDawgy]

After Sirmon, I'm a little scared to give a position coach a shot especially with a loaded D coming back next year. I would rather go get a proven DC at a mid major than a position coach at a P5 who has never been a coordinator.

 

[Wizard of bulldogery]

What about Jon Gruden? I think he is more interested in a position coach/DC job than a HC gig at UT. He wants a new challenge and defense is his weak spot.