Riiiight. Because I don’t ever criticize Cal.You've got a lot of nerve bringing up nut hugging.
I just don’t have a hate first agenda against him like some here.
Riiiight. Because I don’t ever criticize Cal.You've got a lot of nerve bringing up nut hugging.
Most of us have. Yet every game, a segment of the fanbase gets tickled shitless that he has struggled.This^^^^
If he barely played last year when we had players who wouldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat, there's not much hope for this year unless something drastically changes.
Time to just accept it and move on.
Gotta have a whipping boy, and some get offended it you mention Brooks. Oh well.Are we also going to make a thread for each player that played like crap tonight, or just Allen?
He sucked tonight too. And has had a handful of threads written about him.Gotta have a whipping boy, and some get offended it you mention Brooks. Oh well.
just AllenAre we going to make a thread for each player that's played like crap the last 3 games, or just Allen?
I just can’t believe he missed that 3 so bad, he was wide open, it was like 3 feet long.This is pure fantasy. He doesn’t have to be perfect, he just has to not make the dumb plays that he did tonight. You can live with the airball 3, but you can’t live with being totally unaware of where you are on the court and stepping out bounds. You can’t foul a 3 point shooter and think you’re gonna stay in the game.
Allen is what he is, a streak shooter. There will be a game or 2 this season where he will have his stroke going and Calipari will ride his hot hand. If his shot isn’t falling then he’s virtually useless. He’s not making hustle plays, getting steals or deflections, or anything that would warrant his getting extended minutes.
It's pretty easy to see, my friend.Gotta have a whipping boy, and some get offended it you mention Brooks. Oh well.
Where are those Brooks threads, this season? I must have missed those.He sucked tonight too. And has had a handful of threads written about him.
Difference is Brooks has a game or two so far where he’s played ok.
But he’s not amazing either and shouldn’t start in most games.
You most certainly did those.Where are those Brooks threads, this season? I must have missed those.
I’m looking. I know there was one like “What does Brooks do” or “What does Brooks give us”. I’ll see if I can find it.Link?
The sequence was something like this..he came in got the ball and instead of shooting he drove the baseline and stepped out which was frustration number 1...then he went down court and got blowed past by a southern player only to be bailed out by Toppin on a block shot which was frustration 2..then he came down and got the ball for a wide open three and missed badly which was frustration 3....then he committed a foul on a three point attempt...frustration 4....all happened in a short 3 minute frame...should Cal have put him back out later? I dont know but Allen clearly is a frustrated player currently.I just can’t believe he missed that 3 so bad, he was wide open, it was like 3 feet long.
I think you do like to talk about certain playersI don't like to talk bad about our players, but couldn't help but notice that the first time DA was inserted into the game, the player he was assigned to guard took him to the woodshed with a long 1 on 1 drive resulting in a wide open layup. Someone else on here had said he can't guard a post, and I believe they are correct. Plus his shooting suffered tonight.
For sake of argument, that's one. Allen has one each game. I'm saying Allen gets a disproportionate amount of scrutiny from this message board. Lance Ware, Grady, none of those guys are doing any better, yet I'm not seeing them with multiple threads on them. Let's all move on.I’m looking. I know there was one like “What does Brooks do” or “What does Brooks give us”. I’ll see if I can find it.
Toppin and Brooks at the 3 is ridiculousHe played 3 minutes and missed 1 3pt shot.....what can you garner from either good or bad in 3 minutes. Toppin got 21 minute and most of those at the 3 spot. Cal said Toppin and Brooks at the 3 is what he is eyeing....so you can pretty much say bye-bye to Allen the rest of the season.
I'm just asuuming no one else stepped out of bounds tonite or missed a 3. He WAS the only one to foul a 3 point shooter TONITEThis is pure fantasy. He doesn’t have to be perfect, he just has to not make the dumb plays that he did tonight. You can live with the airball 3, but you can’t live with being totally unaware of where you are on the court and stepping out bounds. You can’t foul a 3 point shooter and think you’re gonna stay in the game.
Allen is what he is, a streak shooter. There will be a game or 2 this season where he will have his stroke going and Calipari will ride his hot hand. If his shot isn’t falling then he’s virtually useless. He’s not making hustle plays, getting steals or deflections, or anything that would warrant his getting extended minutes.
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/brooks-has-to-pass-the-ball.354733/Link?
Tbf, the others you mentioned aren’t bemoaned by half of BBN for getting more minutes. Grady to a degree. But Allen’s main point of being in is to hit threes. He’s not doing that well right now. And then he’s not getting other things either.For sake of argument, that's one. Allen has one each game. I'm saying Allen gets a disproportionate amount of scrutiny from this message board. Lance Ware, Grady, none of those guys are doing any better, yet I'm not seeing them with multiple threads on them. Let's all move on.
That's a drop in the bucket compared to Allen. I mean Allen is like the 12th guy in the rotation, yet gets all this attention. Two threads on Brooks doesn't change that.https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/brooks-has-to-pass-the-ball.354733/
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/what-does-brooks-do-well.354468/page-3#post-10285213
There’s a couple. I’m not going back much further.
And tbf, that was a couple of games where he scored in double digits.
So no, Allen isnt the only one that catches crap. He just hasn’t shown anything much this year.
Wheeler has gotten some bad rap too, when he has done ok. Tonight wasn’t those night to be sure.
I'm not seeing many folks lobbying for more playing time for Allen. Not this season. Last season, yes.Tbf, the others you mentioned aren’t bemoaned by half of BBN for getting more minutes. Grady to a degree. But Allen’s main point of being in is to hit threes. He’s not doing that well right now. And then he’s not getting other things either.
A lot of his shots this year have looked forced. I knew before he shot them they weren’t going in. But when you know your opportunities are limited you get them up I guess. When he gets good shots in a normal flow he makes a lot of them. We know that. We’ve already seen it.This team has too many players for Allen to get minutes. It is hard to look good when you barely get on the court. He needs to earn his minutes in practice.
Didn’t you hear? Every shot Allen misses this year, is a missed shot by BJ last season that gets over ruled. Keep it up and we might break .500 for last season.This Allen thing has hurt some butts. A bunch of us wanted him to play more last season, because we had zero offense or shooting. Boston was god awful and kept jacking up shots. We wanted Allen to get some of Boston's minutes. This is a different season. I think we all know it's a different season, and Allen isn't good enough to get minutes on this team. This shouldn't need it's own thread. But that may interfere with the celebration that Allen hasn't been good this season.
Came in and did three things poorly in the span of about 30 seconds of game time. Was not mentally ready to contribute. Got to be better than that when your name is called. I want to see him excel and be successful, but it's up to him...at this point, you cannot come off the bench and have that "deer in the headlights" look.I don't like to talk bad about our players, but couldn't help but notice that the first time DA was inserted into the game, the player he was assigned to guard took him to the woodshed with a long 1 on 1 drive resulting in a wide open layup. Someone else on here had said he can't guard a post, and I believe they are correct. Plus his shooting suffered tonight.
Fair assessment.I dont know if Cal broke Allen or not but its clear he has him on a short leash.Allens confidence is shaken right now but only way to PROVE to himself and everybody that he can contribute and play at this level is inside himself.Kinda like the old adage they will tell you no but you will tell them yes.I hate the " you must not have never played the game" accusation that gets thrown around at people , or more aptly in this case " you must not have coached before" but IMO some of you are incredibly naive about how Allen got where he is today . As a player you know when your coach has lost confidence in you or doesn't seem to " have your back". This MAY be an inaccurate emotion from the player but once any player feels like his coach doesnt trust him/her its OVER . That player will rarely overcome that lack of trust . And if you dont think coaches can either instill confidence in a player or totally destroy a players pathway then you truly have never coached anything at all. It happens in Jr high and it can happen at the pro level. JHMO but the way Cal handled DA last season broke him . Why he stayed around is a big question mark to me . Maybe NIL cash. ? I just hope the kid is emotionally/ mentally OK . I've seen athletes who have their life's work and investment ( blood sweat tears type stuff) yanked out from under them . They can become a mess.
Thats pretty much BS and you know it. How well did TTW play against Duke and played 28 minutes. He had a terrible 3 minutes when inserted into the game and was yanked and never put back in, that is called effing with a players confidence, Taking him out, talking to him and giving him encouragement despite the mistakes is coaching him up and instilling confidence in him. He should have been reinserted into the game within a few minutes after being pulled if cal is Serious about his development. You and I both know cal doesn’t give a **** about that though as he isn’t one of his chosen ones he is going to ride or die with.This is pure fantasy. He doesn’t have to be perfect, he just has to not make the dumb plays that he did tonight. You can live with the airball 3, but you can’t live with being totally unaware of where you are on the court and stepping out bounds. You can’t foul a 3 point shooter and think you’re gonna stay in the game.
Allen is what he is, a streak shooter. There will be a game or 2 this season where he will have his stroke going and Calipari will ride his hot hand. If his shot isn’t falling then he’s virtually useless. He’s not making hustle plays, getting steals or deflections, or anything that would warrant his getting extended minutes.
Why is there always that one thread "I don't want to talk bad about a player" yet there they go.I don't like to talk bad about our players, but couldn't help but notice that the first time DA was inserted into the game, the player he was assigned to guard took him to the woodshed with a long 1 on 1 drive resulting in a wide open layup. Someone else on here had said he can't guard a post, and I believe they are correct. Plus his shooting suffered tonight.
Stop it!!! Except for O, this whole team is not good including the coach!I don't like to talk bad about our players, but couldn't help but notice that the first time DA was inserted into the game, the player he was assigned to guard took him to the woodshed with a long 1 on 1 drive resulting in a wide open layup. Someone else on here had said he can't guard a post, and I believe they are correct. Plus his shooting suffered tonight.
This pretty laughable. You talk as if there shouldn’t be a difference between Washington and Allen. Their is a wide gulf between them in regards to how important they are to the team. As constructed, this team will go as far as Washington takes them. So of course he’s gonna have a longer leash to make mistakes and play through them. He also makes a contribution to the team outside of his scoring.Thats pretty much BS and you know it. How well did TTW play against Duke and played 28 minutes. He had a terrible 3 minutes when inserted into the game and was yanked and never put back in, that is called effing with a players confidence, Taking him out, talking to him and giving him encouragement despite the mistakes is coaching him up and instilling confidence in him. He should have been reinserted into the game within a few minutes after being pulled if cal is Serious about his development. You and I both know cal doesn’t give a **** about that though as he isn’t one of his chosen ones he is going to ride or die with.