All you koolaid drinkers

timnsun

All-American
Jan 25, 2008
13,815
7,519
3
Already on it... got my email sent. I have no doubt Moos will read it and do what I ask. :rolleyes:o_O
 

bgrams7

Redshirt
Feb 9, 2005
7,420
30
0
It's time to hold Frost accountable!
What do you want them to do? Seriously. Do you want him tied to a post at the 50-yard line and whipped like Denzel Washington in Glory? I get you're frustrated, I am too as that was a very lackluster performance against a team that was not 27 points better, but you pose the thought of holding Frost accountable - which is logical considering he's the highest state-paid employee in Nebraska - but 7 games into a 12/13 game season, what do you really want the administration to do to "hold Frost accountable"? Fire Frost with five and a half years remaining on his contract? Have Frost fire assistants mid-season with little to no replacement options considering it's the middle of the season? Have Frost completely change his starters and instead play younger and even more inexperienced players than he has been? I don't get what good your whining and trying to "hold Frost accountable" is going to do, I really don't. Our only option is to let the rest of the season play out - there are five games remaining, so more than plenty of time for things to take a positive turn, especially after the bye week - and at the end of the season if things continue the way they seemingly have for much of the past seven weeks then changes within Frost's staff may have to be made, whether he likes it or not. His long-term future at the program may hinge on him having to make a few tough decisions. So woosah my man and save your time and energy writing Moos or whoever because guess what? I personally don't think they give that much of a crap about what you think given I'm sure they too are pretty annoyed with tonight's result. Take care and GBR
 

bigboxes

All-American
Sep 4, 2004
46,254
6,809
113
What do you want them to do? Seriously. Do you want him tied to a post at the 50-yard line and whipped like Denzel Washington in Glory? I get you're frustrated, I am too as that was a very lackluster performance against a team that was not 27 points better, but you pose the thought of holding Frost accountable - which is logical considering he's the highest state-paid employee in Nebraska - but 7 games into a 12/13 game season, what do you really want the administration to do to "hold Frost accountable"? Fire Frost with five and a half years remaining on his contract? Have Frost fire assistants mid-season with little to no replacement options considering it's the middle of the season? Have Frost completely change his starters and instead play younger and even more inexperienced players than he has been? I don't get what good your whining and trying to "hold Frost accountable" is going to do, I really don't. Our only option is to let the rest of the season play out - there are five games remaining, so more than plenty of time for things to take a positive turn, especially after the bye week - and at the end of the season if things continue the way they seemingly have for much of the past seven weeks then changes within Frost's staff may have to be made, whether he likes it or not. His long-term future at the program may hinge on him having to make a few tough decisions. So woosah my man and save your time and energy writing Moos or whoever because guess what? I personally don't think they give that much of a crap about what you think given I'm sure they too are pretty annoyed with tonight's result. Take care and GBR

First time poster. Long time listener...

 

catch54

Senior
Feb 5, 2003
30,279
628
113
What do you want them to do? Seriously. Do you want him tied to a post at the 50-yard line and whipped like Denzel Washington in Glory? I get you're frustrated, I am too as that was a very lackluster performance against a team that was not 27 points better, but you pose the thought of holding Frost accountable - which is logical considering he's the highest state-paid employee in Nebraska - but 7 games into a 12/13 game season, what do you really want the administration to do to "hold Frost accountable"? Fire Frost with five and a half years remaining on his contract? Have Frost fire assistants mid-season with little to no replacement options considering it's the middle of the season? Have Frost completely change his starters and instead play younger and even more inexperienced players than he has been? I don't get what good your whining and trying to "hold Frost accountable" is going to do, I really don't. Our only option is to let the rest of the season play out - there are five games remaining, so more than plenty of time for things to take a positive turn, especially after the bye week - and at the end of the season if things continue the way they seemingly have for much of the past seven weeks then changes within Frost's staff may have to be made, whether he likes it or not. His long-term future at the program may hinge on him having to make a few tough decisions. So woosah my man and save your time and energy writing Moos or whoever because guess what? I personally don't think they give that much of a crap about what you think given I'm sure they too are pretty annoyed with tonight's result. Take care and GBR

Having TE's help with the pass pro would be a start. So would converting to a 4-3.
 

onechase

Senior
Jan 5, 2005
2,131
474
0
We should see some improvement by now. We should not be getting schooled by Minnesota Gophers. They were way more physical tonight and we are soft. We are horrible in every phase of the game including penalties and most of all coaching.
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

All-Conference
Sep 14, 2013
9,783
2,445
0
I think Scott's performance so far has been downright horrible. He needs a heavy dose of kick in the ***.

However, there is a bright side to this, and that Scott has a history of failing miserably, and turning it around and succeeding. So while I still want to pile on, the history and prior data suggests he will get it fixed in time. How long, I don't know.
 

Harry Caray

All-American
Feb 28, 2002
71,006
7,235
113
What are you talking about? This was a minimum 3 year turnaround. You praise frost for flipping the roster, but yet you are mad because we are a super young team that is having difficulty.

When Frost got here, he said we had better talent than the record showed, and that we would be competing for the division in Year 2.

When Moos fired Riley, he said a good coach should be able to turn it around in 2-3 years.

Next year, we'll be saying it's a 5 year rebuild.
 

MOHUSKER

All-Conference
Nov 1, 2009
16,561
1,806
113
We should see some improvement by now. We should not be getting schooled by Minnesota Gophers. They were way more physical tonight and we are soft. We are horrible in every phase of the game including penalties and most of all coaching.

In year 1 Frost schooled 2nd year Fleck in Lincoln, stuff happens, fans expect linear upward progress but it’s not ever a straight line, there will be some steps backwards at times. Ugly? Sure as hell was and is, but we can keep freaking out or we can accept that we were broken and it’s taking more than anyone hoped to get things where we expect.
 

Headcard

Heisman
Feb 2, 2005
192,509
20,878
113
In year 1 Frost schooled 2nd year Fleck in Lincoln, stuff happens, fans expect linear upward progress but it’s not ever a straight line, there will be some steps backwards at times. Ugly? Sure as hell was and is, but we can keep freaking out or we can accept that we were broken and it’s taking more than anyone hoped to get things where we expect.
Very good post. Spot on.
 

CatColumbia

All-Conference
Apr 19, 2014
5,934
3,140
0
When Frost got here, he said we had better talent than the record showed, and that we would be competing for the division in Year 2.

When Moos fired Riley, he said a good coach should be able to turn it around in 2-3 years.

Next year, we'll be saying it's a 5 year rebuild.

Maybe Frosty said that so that our current players would buy into his system. Never a good look when a new head man comes in and says the team flat out sucks.
 

timnsun

All-American
Jan 25, 2008
13,815
7,519
3
When Frost got here, he said we had better talent than the record showed, and that we would be competing for the division in Year 2.

When Moos fired Riley, he said a good coach should be able to turn it around in 2-3 years.

Next year, we'll be saying it's a 5 year rebuild.
So you bought the coach-speak hook, line and sinker huh?
 

NYCKnightLife

Senior
Nov 13, 2017
456
789
0
In year 1 Frost schooled 2nd year Fleck in Lincoln, stuff happens, fans expect linear upward progress but it’s not ever a straight line, there will be some steps backwards at times. Ugly? Sure as hell was and is, but we can keep freaking out or we can accept that we were broken and it’s taking more than anyone hoped to get things where we expect.

What the **** are you guys talking about “broken”?? Yea you had a couple of “iffy” seasons pre Frost but for the most part the last decade this has been a 8-9 win program. I get it you guys want undefeated and national title but 8-9 wins over a long sample is far more than most programs in d-1 football. You guys do realize you compete with Michigan, Ohio State , Penn State on recruits??

Get a grip and stop giving this coaching staff so much credit. The national narrative and as per Scott frost was that “UCF” was broken before he got there. I will give him credit that he got things in the right direction but at the same time
90% of his 2017 team that beat Auburn were George O’Leary players who went 0-12 just 2 seasons prior.

And with that being said UCF wasn’t broken when frost got there. Going into 2015 it was UCF’s highest rated recruiting class in its history, yes the same one that has 8-9 NFL starters today. Prior to 0-12 UCF had a decade that was composed of 4 conference championships , a Fiesta bowl win and other program shaping milestones.

Scott and his crew seem like the like to take credit and overstate their value. Frost maybe good for you guys long term and it’s not working right now but the rest of his “posse” Chinander, Verdzuco etc need to be tossed like old cleats
 
Nov 10, 2017
1,452
840
0
What the **** are you guys talking about “broken”?? Yea you had a couple of “iffy” seasons pre Frost but for the most part the last decade this has been a 8-9 win program. I get it you guys want undefeated and national title but 8-9 wins over a long sample is far more than most programs in d-1 football. You guys do realize you compete with Michigan, Ohio State , Penn State on recruits??

Get a grip and stop giving this coaching staff so much credit. The national narrative and as per Scott frost was that “UCF” was broken before he got there. I will give him credit that he got things in the right direction but at the same time
90% of his 2017 team that beat Auburn were George O’Leary players who went 0-12 just 2 seasons prior.

And with that being said UCF wasn’t broken when frost got there. Going into 2015 it was UCF’s highest rated recruiting class in its history, yes the same one that has 8-9 NFL starters today. Prior to 0-12 UCF had a decade that was composed of 4 conference championships , a Fiesta bowl win and other program shaping milestones.

Scott and his crew seem like the like to take credit and overstate their value. Frost maybe good for you guys long term and it’s not working right now but the rest of his “posse” Chinander, Verdzuco etc need to be tossed like old cleats
stfu heup
 

bigboxes

All-American
Sep 4, 2004
46,254
6,809
113
What the **** are you guys talking about “broken”?? Yea you had a couple of “iffy” seasons pre Frost but for the most part the last decade this has been a 8-9 win program. I get it you guys want undefeated and national title but 8-9 wins over a long sample is far more than most programs in d-1 football. You guys do realize you compete with Michigan, Ohio State , Penn State on recruits??

Get a grip and stop giving this coaching staff so much credit. The national narrative and as per Scott frost was that “UCF” was broken before he got there. I will give him credit that he got things in the right direction but at the same time
90% of his 2017 team that beat Auburn were George O’Leary players who went 0-12 just 2 seasons prior.

And with that being said UCF wasn’t broken when frost got there. Going into 2015 it was UCF’s highest rated recruiting class in its history, yes the same one that has 8-9 NFL starters today. Prior to 0-12 UCF had a decade that was composed of 4 conference championships , a Fiesta bowl win and other program shaping milestones.

Scott and his crew seem like the like to take credit and overstate their value. Frost maybe good for you guys long term and it’s not working right now but the rest of his “posse” Chinander, Verdzuco etc need to be tossed like old cleats

 

MOHUSKER

All-Conference
Nov 1, 2009
16,561
1,806
113
What the **** are you guys talking about “broken”?? Yea you had a couple of “iffy” seasons pre Frost but for the most part the last decade this has been a 8-9 win program. I get it you guys want undefeated and national title but 8-9 wins over a long sample is far more than most programs in d-1 football. You guys do realize you compete with Michigan, Ohio State , Penn State on recruits??

Get a grip and stop giving this coaching staff so much credit. The national narrative and as per Scott frost was that “UCF” was broken before he got there. I will give him credit that he got things in the right direction but at the same time
90% of his 2017 team that beat Auburn were George O’Leary players who went 0-12 just 2 seasons prior.

And with that being said UCF wasn’t broken when frost got there. Going into 2015 it was UCF’s highest rated recruiting class in its history, yes the same one that has 8-9 NFL starters today. Prior to 0-12 UCF had a decade that was composed of 4 conference championships , a Fiesta bowl win and other program shaping milestones.

Scott and his crew seem like the like to take credit and overstate their value. Frost maybe good for you guys long term and it’s not working right now but the rest of his “posse” Chinander, Verdzuco etc need to be tossed like old cleats

We beat teams we should but have gotten destroyed repeatedly on the national stage in games that matter. We have finished at the bottom of our division and are struggling to get to bowl games. I don’t expect someone from UCF to understand Nebraska, I also don’t give a crap about what a UCF fan thinks about our situation.
 

allong69ks

Redshirt
Sep 9, 2019
182
0
0
What the **** are you guys talking about “broken”?? Yea you had a couple of “iffy” seasons pre Frost but for the most part the last decade this has been a 8-9 win program. I get it you guys want undefeated and national title but 8-9 wins over a long sample is far more than most programs in d-1 football. You guys do realize you compete with Michigan, Ohio State , Penn State on recruits??

Get a grip and stop giving this coaching staff so much credit. The national narrative and as per Scott frost was that “UCF” was broken before he got there. I will give him credit that he got things in the right direction but at the same time
90% of his 2017 team that beat Auburn were George O’Leary players who went 0-12 just 2 seasons prior.

And with that being said UCF wasn’t broken when frost got there. Going into 2015 it was UCF’s highest rated recruiting class in its history, yes the same one that has 8-9 NFL starters today. Prior to 0-12 UCF had a decade that was composed of 4 conference championships , a Fiesta bowl win and other program shaping milestones.

Scott and his crew seem like the like to take credit and overstate their value. Frost maybe good for you guys long term and it’s not working right now but the rest of his “posse” Chinander, Verdzuco etc need to be tossed like old cleats
Your kind of logic will get you nowhere with about 2/3 of the folks that post on here. Many of them purchased t-shirts that put Frost in the same category with Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne, bought the graphic novel about Frost published by the Omaha World Herald, or both....before Frost had ever coached a game. Some engage in serious verbal gymnastics to defend Frost.

There are some great posters on here, that even when they disagree, will be respectful of your opinion. However, the majority just grumble and launch insults when they either don't like what you say, or can't refute it.

The Frost myth is far more palatable than the reality.
 

Ucfmikes

Heisman
Jun 6, 2015
48,016
50,746
0
What the **** are you guys talking about “broken”?? Yea you had a couple of “iffy” seasons pre Frost but for the most part the last decade this has been a 8-9 win program. I get it you guys want undefeated and national title but 8-9 wins over a long sample is far more than most programs in d-1 football. You guys do realize you compete with Michigan, Ohio State , Penn State on recruits??

Get a grip and stop giving this coaching staff so much credit. The national narrative and as per Scott frost was that “UCF” was broken before he got there. I will give him credit that he got things in the right direction but at the same time
90% of his 2017 team that beat Auburn were George O’Leary players who went 0-12 just 2 seasons prior.

And with that being said UCF wasn’t broken when frost got there. Going into 2015 it was UCF’s highest rated recruiting class in its history, yes the same one that has 8-9 NFL starters today. Prior to 0-12 UCF had a decade that was composed of 4 conference championships , a Fiesta bowl win and other program shaping milestones.

Scott and his crew seem like the like to take credit and overstate their value. Frost maybe good for you guys long term and it’s not working right now but the rest of his “posse” Chinander, Verdzuco etc need to be tossed like old cleats
I have to admit that there’s a possibility that Frost is fool’s gold that Husker fans/administrators may have bought into, but it’s too soon to tell
 

Ucfmikes

Heisman
Jun 6, 2015
48,016
50,746
0
Unfortunately, Frost’s style may not be best fitted for the Big-10

Additionally, as of now, he can’t get enough Robinson’s or fast Florida recruits

He’s competing with the Ohio State’s for the regional and national fast guys who rather go there right now
 

73 Red I

All-Conference
Nov 25, 2007
5,522
2,877
113
Does he understand he can make changes tonight? To his playbook.
It's apparent that what worked UCF is not working in BIG. The offense has been around and teams know how to coach against it. The small speed guys that Frost likes just are not going to be durable enough to complete a season without missing games especially when designing the whole offense around them. Just seems like returning to the 155 man squad is a waste if resources. Spreads the coaching too thin although it excited the fans who live in the 80's and 90's
 

Ucfmikes

Heisman
Jun 6, 2015
48,016
50,746
0
It's apparent that what worked UCF is not working in BIG. The offense has been around and teams know how to coach against it. The small speed guys that Frost likes just are not going to be durable enough to complete a season without missing games especially when designing the whole offense around them. Just seems like returning to the 155 man squad is a waste if resources. Spreads the coaching too thin although it excited the fans who live in the 80's and 90's
I said this as well. Guys like Adrian Killins and Otis Anderson probably would be hurt all the time. It’s a different brand of football