Alfonso Plummer Illinois

richthedentist

All-American
Aug 2, 2001
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Man can this guy shoot he hit many contested 3 pointers against Purdue last night; this is the kind of guy we need to find in the portal from Utah to Illinois!!
 

LOU-RU85

All-Conference
Jun 3, 2001
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He is a very good shooter. I have seen him hit so many contested shots as well as from everywhere on the court. Man could RU use a guy like him. He is a fantastic player.
 

NewJerseyHawk

Heisman
Jan 11, 2007
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I just want to make sure our recruiting crying fan base understands this


Alfonso Plummer was the 74th best JUCO player in 2019..... his only high major offer othee than Utah, was Ole Miss as being the 74th beat JUCO player ranked... his other offers were Akron, Florida International, Coastal Carolina, Tulsa, Charlotte, Texas State, Louisiana Monroe, Montana and Northern Arizona.

Utah took the chance and developed Plummer into the player he is today, with former NBA player, Larry Krystkowiack who used to play for the Utah Jazz.....he played for the late Hall of Fame coach, Jerry Sloan, who is a defense and rebounding 1st type of coach. Utah somehow fired him after a relatively solid 10 year run at Utah.

Plummer is a player who found a chance to play a lot of minutes in a major conference and is the type of kid that gets freed up to transfer, once a imploding program fires it's coach. There will be plenty of kids like Plummer available, just look at the rosters of kids who have had or will have a coach fired.....Teams like Maryland are ultimately going to get picked apart since Turgeon left in December. There will be other programs that will lose their head coach, because that coach will be pursued by Maryland and Louisville, since they have openings right now.

 
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richthedentist

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I just want to make sure our recruiting crying fan base understands this


Alfonso Plummer was the 74th best JUCO player in 2019..... his only high major offer othee than Utah, was Ole Miss as being the 74th beat JUCO player ranked... his other offers were Akron, Florida International, Coastal Carolina, Tulsa, Charlotte, Texas State, Louisiana Monroe, Montana and Northern Arizona.

Utah took the chance and developed Plummer into the player he is today, with former NBA player, Larry Krystkowiack who used to play for the Utah Jazz.....he played for the late Hall of Fame coach, Jerry Sloan, who is a defense and rebounding 1st type of coach. Utah somehow fired him after a relatively solid 10 year run at Utah.

Plummer is a player who found a chance to play a lot of minutes in a major conference and is the type of kid that gets freed up to transfer, once a imploding program fires it's coach. There will be plenty of kids like Plummer available, just look at the rosters of kids who have had or will have a coach fired.....Teams like Maryland are ultimately going to get picked apart since Turgeon left in December. There will be other programs that will lose their head coach, because that coach will be pursued by Maryland and Louisville, since they have openings right now.

Hawk question why do you think the sudden change in Mulcahy the last two games? I have my thoughts wanted to hear yours
 

kcg88

Heisman
Aug 11, 2017
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I just want to make sure our recruiting crying fan base understands this


Alfonso Plummer was the 74th best JUCO player in 2019..... his only high major offer othee than Utah, was Ole Miss as being the 74th beat JUCO player ranked... his other offers were Akron, Florida International, Coastal Carolina, Tulsa, Charlotte, Texas State, Louisiana Monroe, Montana and Northern Arizona.

Utah took the chance and developed Plummer into the player he is today, with former NBA player, Larry Krystkowiack who used to play for the Utah Jazz.....he played for the late Hall of Fame coach, Jerry Sloan, who is a defense and rebounding 1st type of coach. Utah somehow fired him after a relatively solid 10 year run at Utah.

Plummer is a player who found a chance to play a lot of minutes in a major conference and is the type of kid that gets freed up to transfer, once a imploding program fires it's coach. There will be plenty of kids like Plummer available, just look at the rosters of kids who have had or will have a coach fired.....Teams like Maryland are ultimately going to get picked apart since Turgeon left in December. There will be other programs that will lose their head coach, because that coach will be pursued by Maryland and Louisville, since they have openings right now.

The recruiting argument is not and has never been "Player X is ranked lowly so he is doomed to suck."

The argument is: In the long run, getting higher-ranked players is likely to produce better results than getting lower-ranked players.

This was at least partially the reason for Krystkowiak's tenure coming to an end. He only once signed a class that ranked in the top half of the Pac-12. Utah made the dance in 2015 and 2016. The core pieces were:

Jordan Loveridge (#118, class of 2012)
Brandon Taylor (#230, class of 2012)
Dakarai Tucker (NR, class of 2012)
Delon Wright (JUCO, recruiting class of 2013)
Jakob Poetl (NR Int'l, recruiting class of 2014)
Kyle Kuzma (#187, class of 2014)

That's an incredible three year run of finding under-the-radar talent and developing it. (They also got #56 Brekkott Chapman, but he didn't do much for them) Was it skill or was it luck? They kept recruiting at just about the same level:

2015: #162 plus a JUCO
2016: #87, #203, three JUCOs
2017: #102, #183, #221, #234, #376
2018: #121, #129, #227, #268, #471
2019: #113, #214, #228, #512, and a JUCO (Plummer)
2020: #120, #203, #213, #430, and a JUCO

But none of those guys turned into first round NBA draft picks like Kyle Kuzma, Jakob Poetl, or Delon Wright. His other problem was that the better players he was getting transferred out: Donnie Tillman, Jayce Johnson, Both Gach. But that's a separate issue.

He went five seasons without making the tournament and that was it. Given Utah's proud tradition under Rick Majerus, and the fact that in-state BYU and Utah State were outperforming the Utes, I can see why a change was made.