Alcoholism is tragic

RalphDaltonFan

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No one ever starts out or plans to be a drug addict or alcoholic. It sneaks up on you. Over the years I have spent lots of hours with both as a counselor. I feel sorry Bob Huggins. He made bad choices but and it caught up with him He needs prayers and help not ridicule at this point.
Thankful he never hurt/killed anyone. Also furious that he continued to live in a reckless manner because so many enabled his addiction/self destruction. I mean you can't call anyone to pick you up? Selfish. Just hope he doesn't play the victim, he knew what he was doing but also hope that WVU doesn't act like they give a damn about any of this, they are just reacting to him getting caught (again) and know that they stuck by him earlier with other incident couldn't do so again this close together. Hell, they let the guy "resign" instead of doing what needed to be done to sober his *** up. You were fired because you are a 70 yr old man with no self control or respect for yourself or others. Grow Up.
 

TNCatfanforever

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Call alcoholism a disease or whatever you’d like. Bottom line is Huggins needs to be held accountable for his actions and it appears he is man enough to accept his punishment. He’s lucky he didn’t kill anyone behind the wheel.
Absolutely correct, but also having lost relatives and close friends to addiction is tragic. He is accountable for his actions. Here is hoping he gets himself on the right track and can use himself as an example to others as to what can happen even to those on a pedestal.
 

bbnkat02

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Absolutely correct, but also having lost relatives and close friends to addiction is tragic. He is accountable for his actions. Here is hoping he gets himself on the right track and can use himself as an example to others as to what can happen even to those on a pedestal.
I've often learned that people on pedestals often have cracked foundations.

Everyone of us are flawed. However, when you have issues like this, you have to make better choices. Hire a chauffeur. The man is a millionaire. No excuse for him going on a psuedo-bender behind the wheel. It is by the grace of the Father that no one was killed.

Imagine that horrifying headline:

"WVU Basketball Coach Bob Huggins in custody after allegedly DUI and killing family of three."

I hope he gets help and enjoys the rest of his life with his family and friends.
 
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Blueaz

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Not getting on those that wish him the best and have him in their prayers.
But some that have every opportunity for help and every chance for help; DON’T and create living hell for the family of around them. Even after death
Prayer MORE for his family, that has deal with his issues.
 
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BBBLazing

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I drinks a bit. Not so much when I was younger and working and raising kids. But, we all have to be responsible for our actions. Having said that, I know addicts that cannot control their actions. I hope Bob Huggins the best. After the booster decided to no longer give money to the athletic department last week, Huggins' days were numbered anyway. I hope he had one more fun night. I'm glad no on got hurt.
 

JimmyWa11

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I drinks a bit. Not so much when I was younger and working and raising kids. But, we all have to be responsible for our actions. Having said that, I know addicts that cannot control their actions. I hope Bob Huggins the best. After the booster decided to no longer give money to the athletic department last week, Huggins' days were numbered anyway. I hope he had one more fun night. I'm glad no on got hurt.
You hope he had a fun night? What a sh*t take
 

BigBlueFanGA

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Not getting on those that wish him the best and have him in their prayers.
But some that have every opportunity for help and every chance for help; DON’T and create living hell fir the family of around them. Even after death
Prayer MORE for his family, that has deal with his issues.
If it were only that easy. Part of the disease is the illusion of being under control. If you're under control, why would you need help of any sort?
 

HICATFAN

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No one ever starts out or plans to be a drug addict or alcoholic. It sneaks up on you. Over the years I have spent lots of hours with both as a counselor. I feel sorry Bob Huggins. He made bad choices but and it caught up with him He needs prayers and help not ridicule at this point.
Amen… I was thinking about this , this morning…he needs compassionate intervention in his life Right Now…from the basic, human perspective… not the Coach or the ego associated with coaching perspective … but from the BASE perspective of a person that needs to be compassionately engaged to change the trajectory of his life… forevermore…

AlohaCat
 

*Fox2Monk*

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No one ever starts out or plans to be a drug addict or alcoholic. It sneaks up on you. Over the years I have spent lots of hours with both as a counselor. I feel sorry Bob Huggins. He made bad choices but and it caught up with him He needs prayers and help not ridicule at this point.
I agree, but he’s also had these demons for a long while. He lost his last job because of it. I’m surprised at his age he hasn’t made more of an attempt to get clean. He has the money for the best rehabs in the country. I hope he gets help. I know how hard it is to break the cycle as well.
 
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*Fox2Monk*

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Thankful he never hurt/killed anyone. Also furious that he continued to live in a reckless manner because so many enabled his addiction/self destruction. I mean you can't call anyone to pick you up? Selfish. Just hope he doesn't play the victim, he knew what he was doing but also hope that WVU doesn't act like they give a damn about any of this, they are just reacting to him getting caught (again) and know that they stuck by him earlier with other incident couldn't do so again this close together. Hell, they let the guy "resign" instead of doing what needed to be done to sober his *** up. You were fired because you are a 70 yr old man with no self control or respect for yourself or others. Grow Up.
I’m sure he realizes he was fired, just allowed to quit for optics. He obviously isn’t playing the victim by doing that.
 

UK till Death

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I drinks a bit. Not so much when I was younger and working and raising kids. But, we all have to be responsible for our actions. Having said that, I know addicts that cannot control their actions. I hope Bob Huggins the best. After the booster decided to no longer give money to the athletic department last week, Huggins' days were numbered anyway. I hope he had one more fun night. I'm glad no on got hurt.
STFU. I hope you were drunk when you wrote this stupid post, so you can at least claim an excuse beyond vast stupidity.
 
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UKrazycat2_rivals

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I was arrested once for "drunk and crawling with intent to walk." I felt like I was pretty well under control though. Never crossed the center line once. Cops overreacted.
 
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Alcohol is the original drug and home wrecker. Alcohol has killed more people, killed more careers and broke up more families than any other drug. Yet, people still make excuses to continue to indulge in their addiction. To me, alcohol is in the class with meth and heroin.
 

MdWIldcat55

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My daughter was in this car LAST NIGHT in the DC suburbs that was hit head on by a drunk driver. She and her boyfriend are fine, thank goodness. Other driver hauled away by ambulance, and I don't care how he is.

Alcoholism is tragic all right -- for the innocent people killed and maimed by drunk drivers. I'm no holy roller. Drink yourself into a stupor. But do it at home, or call an Uber.
 
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Tinker Dan

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My daughter was in this car LAST NIGHT in the DC suburbs that was hit head on by a drunk driver. She and her boyfriend are fine, thank goodness. Driver hauled away by ambulance, and I don't care how he is.

Alcoholism is tragic all right -- for the innocent people killed and maimed by drunk drivers. I'm no holy roller. Drink yourself into a stupor. But do it at home, or call an Uber.

I am glad they are ok.
 
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On a positive note - I'm personally 100 days without alcohol today.

It's been an interesting journey.. not sure if I'll quit for good as I got some big tests coming up with Bengals and UK football on the horizon.
You can do it. Despite all the fighting, arguing, and name calling on this board I believe you would actually get a lot support here. Good luck.
 

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Alcohol is the original drug and home wrecker. Alcohol has killed more people, killed more careers and broke up more families than any other drug. Yet, people still make excuses to continue to indulge in their addiction. To me, alcohol is in the class with meth and heroin.

I’ve never drank, did drugs, smoked, etc, but not a prude. If you want to whatever.

But it amazes me why people are obsessed with them making sure liquor is served at college games. You really can’t go a couple of hours, enjoy a game without alcohol?!
 

TopCatCal

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Thankful he never hurt/killed anyone. Also furious that he continued to live in a reckless manner because so many enabled his addiction/self destruction. I mean you can't call anyone to pick you up? Selfish. Just hope he doesn't play the victim, he knew what he was doing but also hope that WVU doesn't act like they give a damn about any of this, they are just reacting to him getting caught (again) and know that they stuck by him earlier with other incident couldn't do so again this close together. Hell, they let the guy "resign" instead of doing what needed to be done to sober his *** up. You were fired because you are a 70 yr old man with no self control or respect for yourself or others. Grow Up.
Call alcoholism a disease or whatever you’d like. Bottom line is Huggins needs to be held accountable for his actions and it appears he is man enough to accept his punishment. He’s lucky he didn’t kill anyone behind the wheel.
Not getting on those that wish him the best and have him in their prayers.
But some that have every opportunity for help and every chance for help; DON’T and create living hell fir the family of around them. Even after death
Prayer MORE for his family, that has deal with his issues.

I hope Huggins gets his life straitened out. But I have ZERO sympathy for him. He wasn't born addicted to drinking. This is the selfish choice that he made. My sympathy goes for little kids with cancer that did nothing wrong, not some fat puking slobbering drunk that brought a problem on himself.
 

chroix

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People need to learn to moderate. Drinking has been out of control for way too long now. If you’ve got to have alcohol to have fun are you really having fun?
 

rick64

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Hopefully this is a wake call for Huggins and he gets the help and treatment he needs. Best of luck to him!!
 
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Randy Bob

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Alcohol is one of the worse drugs out there in my opinion, my dad was an alcoholic and it messed up his life, I have worked with alcoholics that have died young but it seems to get a free ride, I guess most of the politicians do alot of drinking.
 

sluggercatfan

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No one ever starts out or plans to be a drug addict or alcoholic. It sneaks up on you. Over the years I have spent lots of hours with both as a counselor. I feel sorry Bob Huggins. He made bad choices but and it caught up with him He needs prayers and help not ridicule at this point.
Unfortunately alcohol and drugs are glorified in culture today. Just like many here who do it. Growing up with an alcoholic in my household (not my parents) made me committed to never be that way. From personal experience you can give alcoholics and drug addicts all the support and help they need, BUT until they make personal decisions to stop it's all fruitless.
 
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sluggercatfan

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I agree, but he’s also had these demons for a long while. He lost his last job because of it. I’m surprised at his age he hasn’t made more of an attempt to get clean. He has the money for the best rehabs in the country. I hope he gets help. I know how hard it is to break the cycle as well.
The best rehabs money can buy in the country are WORTHLESS unless the addicted person is truly commited to going thru all the hell it takes to get away from the demon IN CHARGE of their life!
 

BigBlueFanGA

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On a positive note - I'm personally 100 days without alcohol today.

It's been an interesting journey.. not sure if I'll quit for good as I got some big tests coming up with Bengals and UK football on the horizon.
I'm just a bit in front of you at 115 days. I'm sure about quitting after liver failure and emergency surgery plus 5 days in ICU.
 

UKWildcats1987

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I'm just a bit in front of you at 115 days. I'm sure about quitting after liver failure and emergency surgery plus 5 days in ICU.

I'm sorry to hear about that but glad you are doing better.

I'm 35 and drink beer quite a bit. I need to cut back. I know beer isn't liquor but have to assume drinking even 3 to 4 a day adds up over time. Obviously everyone's liver is unique but still.
 

BigBlueFanGA

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I'm sorry to hear about that but glad you are doing better.

I'm 35 and drink beer quite a bit. I need to cut back. I know beer isn't liquor but have to assume drinking even 3 to 4 a day adds up over time. Obviously everyone's liver is unique but still.
Technically my cirrhosis, which is advanced, is non-alcohol related. You can have it just from being too fat for too long, but I mixed in too much alcohol. Strangely I never had any warning in my blood work. Even during failure my numbers weren't bad. So, don't depend on good blood work and take fatty liver disease seriously.
 

sluggercatfan

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I'm sorry to hear about that but glad you are doing better.

I'm 35 and drink beer quite a bit. I need to cut back. I know beer isn't liquor but have to assume drinking even 3 to 4 a day adds up over time. Obviously everyone's liver is unique but still.
If you feel like you can't go a day without drinking ever how many, then you are an alcoholic. My wife's sister gets drunk every day as did her husband until he HAD to quit for health reasons. They both worked(work) steady jobs and have a nice home, cars etc., but they both are paying the health conquencies from the abuse.
 
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DraftCat

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Ironically you'd expect to get healthier quitting drinking but unfortunately for me I've had nothing but issues since I quit 100 days ago.

I'm assuming the alcohol has been hiding or numbing pain throughout the years that I'm now experiencing.

I was doing 20-35 beers a week for almost a decade but over the last two years it's been in the 10-15 range so I've been slowing down.

Only time I miss having a drink lately is after mowing the yard or sitting down for a game but even then those urgers are going away
 

LineSkiCat14

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Or just stay home and drink, I mean come on. How does someone that’s 70 have fomo?

I actually think drinking at home, by yourself, is what becomes dangerous.. or at least CAN become dangerous. A lot of people like the comradery of going to a bar, seeing familiar faces in friends, or simply just getting out of the house. Of course, you still have to practice moderation, and have a plan for a driver. But I don't think it's a problem if someone of any age wants to enjoy the "social" aspect of having a few drinks at their local spot.

I agree with everyone else though. I'm thankful that hangovers for me have always been BRUTAL. They are bad enough these days that if I do indulge in some drinks, the hangover the next day is enough to keep me away from the booze for a little bit. I will freely admit that if the hangovers weren't bad (like they are for some people), I'd be one to go down the path of alcoholism.
 
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DraftCat

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I actually think drinking at home, by yourself, is what becomes dangerous.. or at least CAN become dangerous.


Yup this is the big one... I was drinking primarily because life is boring at least it is for me. So having a few drinks while watching tv at home or playing a game kept the afternoon fun.

Now the days are a bit longer and frankly I'm still bored but I'm managing it right now.