Alabama QB situation

[DawgatAuburn]

Is there any other school in the country that churns through players like Alabama? Here's their quarterback recruiting the last four years.

Bateman 4 star 2013 #4 overall QB - transferring

Cornwell 4 star 2014 #7 overall QB - transferring
Coker transfers in from FSU #33 overall QB, starts one year

Barnett 5 star 2015 #2 overall QB - already transferred

Hurts 4 star 2016 #11 overall QB

And next in line to transfer are:
Tagavailoa 4 star 2017 #3 overall QB
Mac Jones 4 star 2017 #23 overall QB


They now only have Hurts and a walkon on the roster. Something tells me they will be OK though.

I think the same story could be told at tackle. Alabama started a senior and a freshman at tackle this year with another RFR backing up. They already have two top 10 tackles committed for 2017. I don't have the energy to see how many other four/five star guys they have competing for two spots. Lashley may get processed before he ever plays a snap.

 

[maroonmania]

Sounds a lot like us at the moment. We just lost 3 QBs to transfer in the span of about 4 months and now we only have Fitz and a walkon on the roster.

 

[aTotal360]

We went from the greatest stable of QBs in MSU history to our starter, Dam Williams, and Last Chance U.

 

[boatsandhoes]

Prolly get roasted for this, but I'll say it.....

Stupid for a MS kid to go there right now, and even moreso at skilled positions. They'll always get lost in the depth chart. I suppose if you don't think you can achieve goals then you won't. You have to believe in yourself.

What MS kids have gone there, and actually played a significant role?
Freddie Milons, Kevin Norwood are all that come to mind.

At present: Raekwon Davis, Nigel knott, and lashley


Who was the one from Brookhaven that played nothing but special teams and got knocked out during our game?

 

[patdog]

I think it's just the nature of college football these days, especially at the QB position. If you don't win the starting job, you transfer out. Lots of schools with very little QB depth.

 

[patdog]

You won't get roasted by me. You're right. Signing with Bama works out great for about 1/3 of the kids that sign there. The rest are either processed or buried on the depth chart, and most of those could have had a productive career at another SEC school.

 

[aTotal360]

Anthony Steen and Kevin Norwood are the only 2 in the past 10 years that have done anything.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Prolly get roasted for this, but I'll say it.....

Kid from Brookhaven was QB Jimmy Johns

Who can ever forget Freddie Millions?

Wasn't there a TE from the coast that went to Bama in the last 5 years that crashed & burned?

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Jimmy Johns. Croom told him he would be given a chance to play QB there and he never was, save a couple of meaningless snaps here and there.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

Yeah his Football career is over. But he should so apply for a job at Jimmy Johns---the name tag alone would be priceless!**

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[maroonmania]

We went from the greatest stable of QBs in MSU history to our starter, Dam Williams, and Last Chance U.

Williams has already said he is transferring. Pretty sure we are at just our starter and Last Chance U.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

Dude was freaky fast.**

 

[RightOfCenter]

Someone needs to whisper to Lashley and knott, they need to get out fast if they ever want to play. If is ridiculous how Bama recruits tackles and DBs.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Maclome Faciane was the TE. He did catch a pass against us I think his freshman year, but other than that I don't think he did very much.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Jimmy Johns. Croom told him he would be given a chance to play QB there and he never was, save a couple of meaningless snaps here and there.

Hmmm .. thought it was Croom, at MSU, that was honest with Johns and said he would be better at RB or LB than at QB and it was Shula at Bama that lied to him and promised him that he would be a QB.

Johns had an abbreviated career at Bama .. mostly at RB and special teams before leaving, getting arrested for distributing cocaine and spending a year behind bars.

 

[KurtRambis4]

I think he meant to say

that it was crooms that told him he wouldn't* play qb.

 

[thf24]

It should have been obvious to Lashley at the time he signed the letter, given who they already had and who else they were bringing in, that he was never going to play meaningful snaps for Bama.

There's nothing illegal about it, but in my opinion the tactics Saban and a few other top programs use to bring in borderline elite prospects as backup plans and 3rd or 4th level depth are very unethical. Even if they don't flat out like to them like Freeze, they don't tell them that it's very unlikely they'll ever see the field, and let the sense of confidence innate to a 17 or 18 year old athlete who's been the best player on his team for the past 3-4 years hide the writing on the wall. As a result you have a ton of players who could have played immediately and started 2-3 years for most other programs in the country instead sitting on Bama's bench their whole careers, if they don't transfer and play down after one or two. Just doesn't seem right.

 

[fishwater99]

They can wait their time and hopefully play as a JR or Sr and have a chance to get drafted. Oh, and win a few National Championships along the way.
Yea, why go to Bama...lol

 

[TheStateUofMS]

He redshirted behind Cam Robinson. Why are you saying he's a bust at Bama?

It should have been obvious to Lashley at the time he signed the letter, given who they already had and who else they were bringing in, that he was never going to play meaningful snaps for Bama.

There's nothing illegal about it, but in my opinion the tactics Saban and a few other top programs use to bring in borderline elite prospects as backup plans and 3rd or 4th level depth are very unethical. Even if they don't flat out like to them like Freeze, they don't tell them that it's very unlikely they'll ever see the field, and let the sense of confidence innate to a 17 or 18 year old athlete who's been the best player on his team for the past 3-4 years hide the writing on the wall. As a result you have a ton of players who could have played immediately and started 2-3 years for most other programs in the country instead sitting on Bama's bench their whole careers, if they don't transfer and play down after one or two. Just doesn't seem right.

I get what you're saying, but let's not write him off while he's redshirting behind a 1st round draft pick at OT.

 

[MaroonNation]

Sounds a lot like us at the moment. We just lost 3 QBs to transfer in the span of about 4 months and now we only have Fitz and a walkon on the roster.

Bama has a O line to keep their's healthy though.

 

[thf24]

I get what you're saying, but let's not write him off while he's redshirting behind a 1st round draft pick at OT.

I suppose it's possible he wins the job, but he's competing against the #1 rated HS OT and #1 rated JUCO OT in his own class, and the #2 rated HS OT and #1 rated JUCO OT in the next, and that's not even considering upperclassmen who Bama might already have on the roster behind Robinson. Very unlikely a raw 4-star ends up the first or second best in that deck, and if he doesn't win a job as a redshirt freshmen he's missed his shot.

ETA: I'm not saying he's a bust by any means. But you can be an NFL talent at Bama and never play a snap at some positions. That's part of my point.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Correct. Meant to say Croom told he would NOT play QB. Sorry about that.

 

[HD6]

He's a RT in college, which means he's behind another true freshman. And as mentioned, Alabama has the #1 and #10 HS tackles committed, and the #1 JUCO tackle committed.

 

[AlCoDog]

The scout team line Bama's DL faces in practice is better than the OL of 75% of teams on their schedule.

 

[thf24]

That's not how it works at Bama in the vast majority of cases. If you haven't locked down a spot in the two deep by your second year, then you're probably either going to be processed or finish out your career on the scout team. What's better in the end, winning a national championship for riding the bench, or play significantly and build draft stock at almost any other program?

 

[HD6]

Scott Lashley would have almost certainly played this year here and would probably be starting at right tackle for us next season had he come here.