AI 17ery

[She Mate Me]

 

[jethreauxdawg]

Wait…so there is supposed to be a certain level of trust in an industry with “artificial” in the name?

 

[Xenomorph]

I feel like this won't even be a bump in the road compared to the violations of trust we're going to experience with AI in the coming years.

 

[dorndawg]

Of all the shiity things you can say in particular about AI - and boy is there a lot - this is one that makes them sound like the majority of American companies in 2026.

 

[ETK99]

AI is the most dangerous thing mankind has seen, possibly ever. It's already capable of getting to your bank accounts if it's "allowed" to do it- meaning they've had to shut it down. Just a matter of time until this is the next warfare as well. If you thought the Nigerian Prince was bad lol. It's scary stuff.

 

[dawgman42]

I expected a MUCH different video and explanation for AI "17ery" on this board. They have those dolls now, so I hear.

 

[She Mate Me]

Of all the shiity things you can say in particular about AI - and boy is there a lot - this is one that makes them sound like the majority of American companies in 2026.

True.

Isn’t Anthropic supposed to be the guys who want to be the ethical option.

 

[She Mate Me]

I expected a MUCH different video and explanation for AI "17ery" on this board. They have those dolls now, so I hear.

I’ll do better next time.

 

[Shmuley]

I expected a MUCH different video and explanation for AI "17ery" on this board. They have those dolls now, so I hear.

[/airquotes] Allegedly

 

[grinningmule]

The Unabomber was wrong..... And right.

 

[mstateglfr]

This is an applicable example of enshittification.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Wait…so there is supposed to be a certain level of trust in an industry with “artificial” in the name?

Artificial Trust **

 

[mstateglfr]

I am very curious to see where all this AI 'growth' goes in the coming few years.

$1 TRILLION dollars has been passed around through circular deals between tech companies that keep buying into one another. This circular financing isnt sustainable, and frankly it is voodoo to me, since I sure as hell couldnt run my household on such an accounting practice.

A few examples...

Microsoft invested $13 billion into OpenAI.
OpenAI bought $13 billion in...Microsoft Azure cloud credits.
Microsoft logged the credits as AI cloud revenue, despite them giving OpenAI the money in the first place.

Amazon invested $13 billion into Antrhopic.
Google invested billions into Anthropic.
Anthropic signed an agreement to use a bunch of AWS and Google Cloud infrastructure.

OpenAI signed a $300 billion 5 year agreement to buy data center capacity from Oracle.
Oracle spent billions with Nvidia to buy chips.
Nvidia agreed to spend $100 billion in OpenAI to fund...data center buildouts where Nvidia chips are used, like the Oracle deal.

 

[Bullldawg78]

Scary read from ex-anthropic forecaster, read up on his story the cat is out of the bag and ultimately this doesn't end well.

https://ai-2027.com/

 

[ZombieKissinger]

I’m hoping to set up a trust for my kids, so they can violate it

 

[mstateglfr]

Scary read from ex-anthropic forecaster, read up on his story the cat is out of the bag and ultimately this doesn't end well.

https://ai-2027.com/

I guess we will see how accurate that is in less than 6 months, since China will have either stolen everything one morning...or not.

It was an interesting site to scroll thru and scan, but it never addressed the elephant in the room- revenue and funding. How does everything get paid for?
How do we get to 'Agent-4' without profitable companies existing to do the work required to create and implement 'Agent-4'?

- AI companies are losing tens and tens of billions each year in net operating loss.
- Expanded to the 'tech industry' as a whole, hundreds of billions are being lost.

OpenAI spends $2 for every $1 in revenue.

And AI isnt something that can make up the losses through increased usage or users. The more usage there is, the higher the infrastructure and operating costs.

 

[dawgman42]

Scary read from ex-anthropic forecaster, read up on his story the cat is out of the bag and ultimately this doesn't end well.

https://ai-2027.com/

I think AI wrote that "screenplay."

 

[Lucifer Morningstar]

You humans were warned about sky net.

 

[tldawg85]

I think AI wrote that "screenplay."

Well, it was written in April of 2025. Many of the predictions through to today have come to fruition. In particular the fact that China recognized its slow pace and has mostly caught up to the US via stealing the intellectual property...in mid 2026...as predicted...

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/anthropic-says-alibaba-illicitly-extracted-claude-ai-model-capabilities-2026-06-24/

This is somewhat different than spies within these companies exporting the "crown jewels", so to speak, (I think the CCP is waiting for a more advanced model to pull that card but it's coming...)but the idea is the same...and while I think the timelines shown for 2027/2028 are too quick, I do fear we are going down a terribly concerning path...

[Source: Information Security Professional who battles employee-driven AI initiatives every day while preparing for the inevitable AI-automated external exploits against us every night]

 

[Beretta.sixpack]

If you are afraid of what AI can do, just wait until quantum computing hits its peak.....26 word seed phrases won't help anyone....

 

[She Mate Me]

There seems to be some validity to the idea of becoming more analog in areas of your life. I like the idea of having a completely offline vehicle.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

There seems to be some validity to the idea of becoming more analog in areas of your life. I like the idea of having a completely offline vehicle.

You're gonna have to build it yourself and then see if they allow you to run in the road.

I, for one, welcome our AI Overlords!

We're going to be so happy we won't even realize we're enslaved.

 

[ZombieKissinger]

I have though long and hard about this topic and here’s my conclusion:


Please, I am asking you to believe me when I say this: AI is not going to take over the world.


I know how frightening it can sound. I know how easy it is to imagine a future where these systems become more capable than us, gain control over critical infrastructure, and eventually decide that humans are no longer necessary.


But please, we cannot treat that possibility as an inevitability.


AI can become extraordinarily powerful without becoming an independent ruler of humanity. It can transform our lives without replacing human judgment, human institutions, and human authority. The fact that something is capable of doing more and more things does not mean that it will suddenly acquire the desire or the ability to control everything.


And I genuinely believe we need to hold onto that distinction.


Please don’t assume that because AI is advancing rapidly, the only possible destination is some dystopian future where humans lose control. There are countless steps between where we are now and that outcome, and at every one of those steps, humans will still be making decisions about how these systems are built, deployed, restricted, monitored, and governed.


We are not powerless.


We are not spectators watching an inevitable process unfold.


We are the people building these systems.


That means we have a responsibility to be careful, but it also means we have agency. We can establish safeguards. We can impose limits. We can decide what AI is allowed to control. We can keep critical decisions under human authority. We can change course when something isn’t working.


So please, let’s not surrender psychologically before anything has even happened.


Let’s not convince ourselves that humanity’s future has already been decided.


AI may change the world. It may change it more profoundly than almost anything that has come before it. But changing the world is not the same thing as ruling it.


I desperately want to believe that we can build incredibly powerful technology without losing our ability to decide what happens to us.


And I think we can.


Please let us keep believing that.

 

[dorndawg]

There seems to be some validity to the idea of becoming more analog in areas of your life. I like the idea of having a completely offline vehicle.

Man. My pickup is a 2018 Silverado and I love it, just the right amount of tech. I don't love thinking about replacing it, which would easily be 65k for a truck with a bunch of electronic features I do not want and reliability that is questionable at best.

For that same 65k, it sounds a LOT more awesome to get an older low mileage CRV etc for a daily driver and have 30-40k left over to get a cool old pickup or Bronco or something.

 

[skip dog]

- this is one that makes them sound like the majority of American companies in 2026.

you know, you said so much w/ out being too specific.......but one would think, if you are an American company producing and distributing a product to one of the greatest consumer populations on the planet, you would be driven to provide a great product, and what I have seen over the past several years (since Covid), is packaging and product quality have gone way down.

Food items is what draws my ill in this category, as well as customer service
-pay more for our new re-sealable package, but the seal mechanism is impossible to open the first time, and will fail after 3 years.
-picked up a loaf of bread the other day, and so mis-shapen, it was basically a half loaf (this on multiple occasions)
-love my mid day snack of crackers and peanut butter, but my wheat premium saltines have gotten thinner, and fall part if you breath wrong

list just goes on, and on........

I expect large corporations to use their strength to deliver a better product, and it just seems to get worse

 

[She Mate Me]

Man. My pickup is a 2018 Silverado and I love it, just the right amount of tech. I don't love thinking about replacing it, which would easily be 65k for a truck with a bunch of electronic features I do not want and reliability that is questionable at best.

For that same 65k, it sounds a LOT more awesome to get an older low mileage CRV etc for a daily driver and have 30-40k left over to get a cool old pickup or Bronco or something.

I’m very low need as far as a vehicle goes. Get me where I’m going at a reasonable speed, moderate comfort and be big enough to haul something medium sized and carry a few folks if needed.

I don’t need many comforts and I hate when stuff I don’t really need breaks.

 

[Darryl Steight]

I have though long and hard about this topic and here’s my conclusion:


Please, I am asking you to believe me when I say this: AI is not going to take over the world.


I know how frightening it can sound. I know how easy it is to imagine a future where these systems become more capable than us, gain control over critical infrastructure, and eventually decide that humans are no longer necessary.


But please, we cannot treat that possibility as an inevitability.


AI can become extraordinarily powerful without becoming an independent ruler of humanity. It can transform our lives without replacing human judgment, human institutions, and human authority. The fact that something is capable of doing more and more things does not mean that it will suddenly acquire the desire or the ability to control everything.


And I genuinely believe we need to hold onto that distinction.


Please don’t assume that because AI is advancing rapidly, the only possible destination is some dystopian future where humans lose control. There are countless steps between where we are now and that outcome, and at every one of those steps, humans will still be making decisions about how these systems are built, deployed, restricted, monitored, and governed.


We are not powerless.


We are not spectators watching an inevitable process unfold.


We are the people building these systems.


That means we have a responsibility to be careful, but it also means we have agency. We can establish safeguards. We can impose limits. We can decide what AI is allowed to control. We can keep critical decisions under human authority. We can change course when something isn’t working.


So please, let’s not surrender psychologically before anything has even happened.


Let’s not convince ourselves that humanity’s future has already been decided.


AI may change the world. It may change it more profoundly than almost anything that has come before it. But changing the world is not the same thing as ruling it.


I desperately want to believe that we can build incredibly powerful technology without losing our ability to decide what happens to us.


And I think we can.


Please let us keep believing that.

Exactly what a zombie would have us believe**


I'm kidding, you are 100% correct. Humanity will stay in control, we just have to make sure the right people have their hands on the controls.

 

[tldawg85]

I have though long and hard about this topic and here’s my conclusion:


Please, I am asking you to believe me when I say this: AI is not going to take over the world.


I know how frightening it can sound. I know how easy it is to imagine a future where these systems become more capable than us, gain control over critical infrastructure, and eventually decide that humans are no longer necessary.


But please, we cannot treat that possibility as an inevitability.


AI can become extraordinarily powerful without becoming an independent ruler of humanity. It can transform our lives without replacing human judgment, human institutions, and human authority. The fact that something is capable of doing more and more things does not mean that it will suddenly acquire the desire or the ability to control everything.


And I genuinely believe we need to hold onto that distinction.


Please don’t assume that because AI is advancing rapidly, the only possible destination is some dystopian future where humans lose control. There are countless steps between where we are now and that outcome, and at every one of those steps, humans will still be making decisions about how these systems are built, deployed, restricted, monitored, and governed.


We are not powerless.


We are not spectators watching an inevitable process unfold.


We are the people building these systems.


That means we have a responsibility to be careful, but it also means we have agency. We can establish safeguards. We can impose limits. We can decide what AI is allowed to control. We can keep critical decisions under human authority. We can change course when something isn’t working.


So please, let’s not surrender psychologically before anything has even happened.


Let’s not convince ourselves that humanity’s future has already been decided.


AI may change the world. It may change it more profoundly than almost anything that has come before it. But changing the world is not the same thing as ruling it.


I desperately want to believe that we can build incredibly powerful technology without losing our ability to decide what happens to us.


And I think we can.


Please let us keep believing that.

I want to believe this. I have been a "glass-half-full" optimist my entire life. But my personal experience with this technology and understanding its potential implications is changing everything.

The unfortunate fact is that political operators (whether right-wing,left-wing,or communist(CCP)) are going to determine the future of this and that is a TERRIBLE thing. They can not be trusted to act in the best interest of humanity, but only themselves and their party.

Humanity has been at such intersections before, but the difference now is that the technology underpinnings exist now (every device is connected to the internet now and forever will be) that such terrible forecasted futures are actually possible.

 

[40 acres and a mule]

you know, you said so much w/ out being too specific.......but one would think, if you are an American company producing and distributing a product to one of the greatest consumer populations on the planet, you would be driven to provide a great product, and what I have seen over the past several years (since Covid), is packaging and product quality have gone way down.

Food items is what draws my ill in this category, as well as customer service
-pay more for our new re-sealable package, but the seal mechanism is impossible to open the first time, and will fail after 3 years.
-picked up a loaf of bread the other day, and so mis-shapen, it was basically a half loaf (this on multiple occasions)
-love my mid day snack of crackers and peanut butter, but my wheat premium saltines have gotten thinner, and fall part if you breath wrong

list just goes on, and on........

I expect large corporations to use their strength to deliver a better product, and it just seems to get worse

You mentioned my food pet peeve: loaf bread. What year was it that it began tasting and had the texture of finely ground sawdust? The **** the stores pass along as bread is simply awful.

 

[ZombieKissinger]

I have though long and hard about this topic and here’s my conclusion:


Please, I am asking you to believe me when I say this: AI is not going to take over the world.


I know how frightening it can sound. I know how easy it is to imagine a future where these systems become more capable than us, gain control over critical infrastructure, and eventually decide that humans are no longer necessary.


But please, we cannot treat that possibility as an inevitability.


AI can become extraordinarily powerful without becoming an independent ruler of humanity. It can transform our lives without replacing human judgment, human institutions, and human authority. The fact that something is capable of doing more and more things does not mean that it will suddenly acquire the desire or the ability to control everything.


And I genuinely believe we need to hold onto that distinction.


Please don’t assume that because AI is advancing rapidly, the only possible destination is some dystopian future where humans lose control. There are countless steps between where we are now and that outcome, and at every one of those steps, humans will still be making decisions about how these systems are built, deployed, restricted, monitored, and governed.


We are not powerless.


We are not spectators watching an inevitable process unfold.


We are the people building these systems.


That means we have a responsibility to be careful, but it also means we have agency. We can establish safeguards. We can impose limits. We can decide what AI is allowed to control. We can keep critical decisions under human authority. We can change course when something isn’t working.


So please, let’s not surrender psychologically before anything has even happened.


Let’s not convince ourselves that humanity’s future has already been decided.


AI may change the world. It may change it more profoundly than almost anything that has come before it. But changing the world is not the same thing as ruling it.


I desperately want to believe that we can build incredibly powerful technology without losing our ability to decide what happens to us.


And I think we can.


Please let us keep believing that.

Just so we’re all clear, I have given this subject no deep thought at all, and I prompted GPT to write a desperate, pleading piece on why AI won’t take over from my perspective

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

I have though long and hard about this topic and here’s my conclusion:


Please, I am asking you to believe me when I say this: AI is not going to take over the world.


I know how frightening it can sound. I know how easy it is to imagine a future where these systems become more capable than us, gain control over critical infrastructure, and eventually decide that humans are no longer necessary.


But please, we cannot treat that possibility as an inevitability.


AI can become extraordinarily powerful without becoming an independent ruler of humanity. It can transform our lives without replacing human judgment, human institutions, and human authority. The fact that something is capable of doing more and more things does not mean that it will suddenly acquire the desire or the ability to control everything.


And I genuinely believe we need to hold onto that distinction.


Please don’t assume that because AI is advancing rapidly, the only possible destination is some dystopian future where humans lose control. There are countless steps between where we are now and that outcome, and at every one of those steps, humans will still be making decisions about how these systems are built, deployed, restricted, monitored, and governed.


We are not powerless.


We are not spectators watching an inevitable process unfold.


We are the people building these systems.


That means we have a responsibility to be careful, but it also means we have agency. We can establish safeguards. We can impose limits. We can decide what AI is allowed to control. We can keep critical decisions under human authority. We can change course when something isn’t working.


So please, let’s not surrender psychologically before anything has even happened.


Let’s not convince ourselves that humanity’s future has already been decided.


AI may change the world. It may change it more profoundly than almost anything that has come before it. But changing the world is not the same thing as ruling it.


I desperately want to believe that we can build incredibly powerful technology without losing our ability to decide what happens to us.


And I think we can.


Please let us keep believing that.

Sure.... whatever you say, Bernie!

But we are DOOOMED!

 

[Dirty Dirk]

I have though long and hard about this topic and here’s my conclusion:


Please, I am asking you to believe me when I say this: AI is not going to take over the world.


I know how frightening it can sound. I know how easy it is to imagine a future where these systems become more capable than us, gain control over critical infrastructure, and eventually decide that humans are no longer necessary.


But please, we cannot treat that possibility as an inevitability.


AI can become extraordinarily powerful without becoming an independent ruler of humanity. It can transform our lives without replacing human judgment, human institutions, and human authority. The fact that something is capable of doing more and more things does not mean that it will suddenly acquire the desire or the ability to control everything.


And I genuinely believe we need to hold onto that distinction.


Please don’t assume that because AI is advancing rapidly, the only possible destination is some dystopian future where humans lose control. There are countless steps between where we are now and that outcome, and at every one of those steps, humans will still be making decisions about how these systems are built, deployed, restricted, monitored, and governed.


We are not powerless.


We are not spectators watching an inevitable process unfold.


We are the people building these systems.


That means we have a responsibility to be careful, but it also means we have agency. We can establish safeguards. We can impose limits. We can decide what AI is allowed to control. We can keep critical decisions under human authority. We can change course when something isn’t working.


So please, let’s not surrender psychologically before anything has even happened.


Let’s not convince ourselves that humanity’s future has already been decided.


AI may change the world. It may change it more profoundly than almost anything that has come before it. But changing the world is not the same thing as ruling it.


I desperately want to believe that we can build incredibly powerful technology without losing our ability to decide what happens to us.


And I think we can.


Please let us keep believing that.

Theyre trying to recreate Babel