Adidas Contract info

[Amadden0408]

http://b3.caspio.com/dpImages.aspx?appkey=136b100080199cf7b86245558063&fileID=1951767

This is the previous contract, but I'd have to assume the new one is similar in it's wording. On page 4 of the contract, there is a clause that states "Either party may terminate this Agreement if the other party commits a material breach and fails to cure such breach (if curable) within thirty (30) days of written notice."

I doubt this is pursued, but you gotta think that if we truly are upset at the top (Read: Keenum), then we do possibly have an out. And honestly, it wouldn't be a horrible time considering our success in football this past year.

I'm thinking that when it's all said and done, Adidas will be doing us some major favors or we will be looking for a new supplier in 2020.

 

[57stratdawg]

Is a baseball practice Tshirt worth totally blowing up the mens basketball program?

 

[JacksonDevilDog]

The fans that are bitching about this are the same ones that don't want beer in rankin county./

 

[engie]

Adidas has been good to us.

It may be worth getting them to sweeten the pot though. They've struck gold on two separate apparel deals with us. First one was at the end of the Croom era, second was directly ahead of #1 in football. Both times saw a virtually immediate tremendous increase in merchandise sales making us worth more than they were paying us.

 

[croomin]

I wasn't an Adidas fan until this practice jersey. Please let me know where I can get one.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

What's the breach?

 

[FlabLoser]

Adidas has been good to us.

It may be worth getting them to sweeten the pot though. They've struck gold on two separate apparel deals with us. First one was at the end of the Croom era, second was directly ahead of #1 in football. Both times saw a virtually immediate tremendous increase in merchandise sales making us worth more than they were paying us.

I was not kidding when I wrote here on SPS, on ED, and in a tweet to Strick - Adidas should do a t-shirt giveaway. And get 2 free with a Maroon Is All That Matters trade-in.

 

[missouridawg]

I wasn't an Adidas fan until this practice jersey. Please let me know where I can get one.

I'm in this camp.

We've got a company who willing to experiment with us. They aren't turning us into Oregon/Nike or anything like that... but they have never paid as much attention to baseball apparel with anyone like they have with us this year. Couple that with the fact that they were instrumental in the Ben Howland hire and will be funneling AAU players towards... Addidas is great for MSU.

Did they screw this up? No doubt. But it ain't the end of the world.

In fact... can you guys think of a better way to get everyone in the nation talking about MSU athletics before Super Bulldawg weekend?

 

[MarkDallas]

Is a baseball practice Tshirt worth totally blowing up the mens basketball program?

?????
I don't want to get rid of Adidas over this, but can you explain how that would "totally blow up the men's basketball program"?

 

[Dawgzilla]

I'm in this camp.

In fact... can you guys think of a better way to get everyone in the nation talking about MSU athletics before Super Bulldawg weekend?

I can think of a ton of better ways. This is not a big deal, but its embarrassing. I want to know who at Adidas thought that any team, in any sport, at any level, wanted an F-bomb on their shirt? I mean, its a word I use an just about a daily basis, but even I am aware of my audience before I say it...

 

[MSU Fan.sixpack]

I'm in this boat. Can somebody please explain to me what it means to be an Adidas school and why that is significant?

 

[futaba.79]

I was pissed until Kellenberger............

jumped on the embarrassment bandwagon, then I started liking the shirts more and more. Truth be known, Matt Wyatt climbing way up on his high horse calling for somebody's job had me looking at Adidas in a favorable light. At this point, I say give that bold *** t-shirt designer a raise.

 

[DAWG61]

?????
I don't want to get rid of Adidas over this, but can you explain how that would "totally blow up the men's basketball program"?

Don't follow basketball much do you. Adidas has gotten us a top 25 coach and is a major reason for the next twenty players we get. Adidas is now close to untouchable for MSU.

 

[engie]

?????
I don't want to get rid of Adidas over this, but can you explain how that would "totally blow up the men's basketball program"?

If it needs explaining, it's unlikely to be fully understood...

Ben Howland has long ties with Adidas. Think Kenny Payne and Worldwide Wes/Nike type of thing. They were instrumental in his interest in us and our overall ability to hire him. Adidas is probably the highest $$ AAU sponsor in the country. Basketball "scholarships" are most often funneled through AAU programs. Hence how we're now seeing many elite prospects tied to a particular apparel provider long before they ever sign the dotted line. You have guys that will only go to a Nike school or guys that will only go to an Adidas school. Essentially, deals are already in place for their future apparel deals. Just not "official" as that would kill those players' amateurism. Malik Newman has been rumored to be leaning Adidas for a long time now, although he isn't nearly as closely associated with them as many guys in the upcoming pipeline are. Given how things have transpired, we seem to be fairly high on Adidas' priority list these days = ins with prospects that between Adidas and Howland that we weren't even close to touching before. And I'd think they will probably cut us a pretty nice check when it's time to build the baseball stadium as well for signage/advertisement rights...

 

[MarkDallas]

Don't follow basketball much do you. Adidas has gotten us a top 25 coach and is a major reason for the next twenty players we get. Adidas is now close to untouchable for MSU.

This is a line I keep hearing, but it just don't buy it. Unless someone has evidence that Adidas was involved in the hiring process, it sounds like message board BS to me.

But you still didn't answer the question. If we take a hard line with Adidas over this, how does that blow up the program? Is Howland going to quit? Is Malik going to Europe?

 

[57stratdawg]

Agreed.

 

[Miss.Stake]

Watch the Sonny Vaccaro "Sole Man" 30 for 30 on ESPN that aired last night and it will explain how it all works.

 

[missouridawg]

Would love to hear your thoughts on how you could get the entire nation to discuss MSU athletics this week. I'll be waiting patiently.

 

[kired]

I thought that's what Ray, Stans, and Sidney had already done over the last 5 years.

 

[fishwater99]

This is a line I keep hearing, but it just don't buy it. Unless someone has evidence that Adidas was involved in the hiring process, it sounds like message board BS to me.

But you still didn't answer the question. If we take a hard line with Adidas over this, how does that blow up the program? Is Howland going to quit? Is Malik going to Europe?

We would not have gotten Howland without Adidas, and Ray would still be our coach today. That's a fact..
Howland just can't leave the Adidas AAU train and switch to Nike, it doesn't work that way..

 

[512taylor]

The fans that are bitching about this are the same ones that don't want beer in rankin county./

No.

 

[121Josey]

BREAKING: Adidas has agreed to compensate State for their indiscretion. A year's supply of baseball bats!**

 

[Lee Corso]

So we are pretty much bound to whatever Adidas says or does no matter what because "we are an Adidas school".

 

[KurtRambis4]

Fire Adidas!!!!!1

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[DAWG61]

So we are pretty much bound to whatever Adidas says or does no matter what because "we are an Adidas school".

No but it's a 17ing joke. Quit getting your panties bunched up because of a cuss word not even spelled out and upside down.

 

[Dawgzilla]

I can assure you the entire nation is not discussing the T-shirt snafu, and the ones who are discussing are not speaking well of MSU. If you want to bring attention to the Athletics program, then any positive publicity would be great: Push more articles on the new Bully mascot taking over, sent out photos of our uniform combos for next Fall including the unis for the UMiss game, get Dak interviewed on ESPN, get Howland interviewed on ESPN......the list is endless.

 

[mstateglfr]

Don't follow basketball much do you. Adidas has gotten us a top 25 coach and is a major reason for the next twenty players we get. Adidas is now close to untouchable for MSU.

I follow cbb a lot. I also remember thru thru the years all your hilariously dumb comments and suggestions concerning cbb.
I have read nothing that shows Adidas got us Howland. Let me know if you have read anything that shows Howland came to MSU because of Adidas.
So did Texas get Smart only because he came from VCU which is apparently Nike? But wait- uh oh- Barnes went to UT which is also Nike. They must have landed him only because of his Nike ties!


As for the comment about the next 20 players we get, statistics don’t back up your argument. Out of 40 top10 players, 24 were with Nike AAU clubs. 16 signed with Nike teams. That’s based on the data below. It should be clear that players are willing to sign with colleges that don’t have clothing contracts with the company that sponsored those players’ AAU programs.
A Courier-Journal database shows that 58 percent of the Rivals.com's top 10 seniors in the signing classes beginning in 2011, the first class from the Nike-backed Elite Youth Basketball League, came from Nike clubs, and of those, 69 percent, or 20 players, committed to college teams sponsored by that apparel company. Four committed to adidas-sponsored colleges.
http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...ysis-nike-schools-land-top-recruits/17458319/

 

[mstateglfr]

Ben Howland has long ties with Adidas. Think Kenny Payne and Worldwide Wes/Nike type of thing. They were instrumental in his interest in us and our overall ability to hire him. Adidas is probably the highest $$ AAU sponsor in the country. Basketball "scholarships" are most often funneled through AAU programs. Hence how we're now seeing many elite prospects tied to a particular apparel provider long before they ever sign the dotted line. You have guys that will only go to a Nike school or guys that will only go to an Adidas school. Essentially, deals are already in place for their future apparel deals. Just not "official" as that would kill those players' amateurism. Malik Newman has been rumored to be leaning Adidas for a long time now, although he isn't nearly as closely associated with them as many guys in the upcoming pipeline are. Given how things have transpired, we seem to be fairly high on Adidas' priority list these days = ins with prospects that between Adidas and Howland that we weren't even close to touching before. And I'd think they will probably cut us a pretty nice check when it's time to build the baseball stadium as well for signage/advertisement rights...

Howland having long ties to Adidas doesn't mean he took a job at MSU because of those ties. That's dumb as hell to say. It could have played a part if he had formed good relationships with people at Adidas and those people also have some relationship with MSU, but its not like he came to MSU because we have a contract with a clothing company.

You love stats, and im sure you will destroy the following, but they don't support your claim that many elite prospects are tied to an apparel provider long before they sign with a school. Sure- a school's apparel will help if the recruits are in an AAU program sponsored by that company, but its by no means some signed sealed delivered setup.
Out of 40 top10 players, 24 were with Nike AAU clubs. 16 signed with Nike teams. That’s based on the data below. It should be clear that players are willing to sign with colleges that don’t have clothing contracts with the company that sponsored those players’ AAU programs.
A Courier-Journal database shows that 58 percent of the Rivals.com's top 10 seniors in the signing classes beginning in 2011, the first class from the Nike-backed Elite Youth Basketball League, came from Nike clubs, and of those, 69 percent, or 20 players, committed to college teams sponsored by that apparel company. Four committed to adidas-sponsored colleges.
http://www.courier-journal.com/story...uits/17458319/

How many recruits have declared they will only play for a school that is tied to apparel company that sponsors their AAU team? Lets just go with the past 3 years. Go find em. They exist, absolutely, but its not like a Nike school is cut off from signing a player who was with an adidas AAU. Duke has and will continue to recruit adidas AAU players.

Show me where you learned that Howland was hired because he worked for a school that fired him who had a contract with adidas.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

I have no problem with it.

 

[DancingRabbit]

I'm confident the Adidas relatiionship helped get the discussion started.

You probably won't see Scott or Ben go on record about it because it may appear "unseemly". Sure, Scott had to do a good job selling the opportunity and Howland had to believe he could win here and be excited about the challenge.

Howland does have Adidas ties that go way back even to Northern Arizona, but certainly there are Adidas schools that he would turn down and some Nike schools that he would listen to. I think it is accepted as fact that Sonny Vaccaro and Adidas were very involved in bringing Howland to Pitt, and later bringing him to UCLA.

I'll reserve judgment on whether Adidas is going to help a lot in bringing in top recruits, but I think it may help in some cases.

 

[mstateglfr]

You probably won't see Scott or Ben go on record about it because it may appear "unseemly". Sure, Scott had to do a good job selling the opportunity and Howland had to believe he could win here and be excited about the challenge.

Howland does have Adidas ties that go way back even to Northern Arizona, but certainly there are Adidas schools that he would turn down and some Nike schools that he would listen to.

Completely plausible.

I just take issue with the assertion that adidas brought Howland to MSU, as if Howland had no choice in the matter and he had no chance to look at other options. He wasn't placed by adidas at MSU, but that's how posters here have made it sound.

 

[esplanade91]

Ole Miss sells a lot more merchandise than us and has a bigger market value than us, all things the same. Look at their contract, knock it down a few notches, knock it down a few farther for our previous relationship and the fact that we're not a continued user, and that's what we'd be getting from Nike if Nike were even interested. You feel ignored by Adidas? Switch to Nike.

Want UA despite their cleats being absolute ****? Even less money, and that would essentially shutter The Hump.

There's not a situation in the world where everyone likes the provider. I'll take the most money. Added bonus of having a partner who owns AAU basketball.

ETA: The only way we're getting Nike back is if Nike approaches the SEC and wants to be "the official provider of the SEC" and over a 10 year process the Kremlin slowly convinces the last few non-Nike schools left to talk to their friends at Nike. Not a stretch, but we're a long way off from that.

 

[121Josey]

So what have you read?

I follow cbb a lot. I also remember thru thru the years all your hilariously dumb comments and suggestions concerning cbb.
I have read nothing that shows Adidas got us Howland. Let me know if you have read anything that shows Howland came to MSU because of Adidas.

Did you read where Howland picked up the phone and asked SS that he would coach the team if he fired RR? Or did you read where the man who hired RR did a one-man coaching search in the dead of the night and talked Howland into accepting a job at MSU, if it were to become available?

 

[KurtRambis4]

You've seen the tapes?**

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[Lee Corso]

No but it's a 17ing joke. Quit getting your panties bunched up because of a cuss word not even spelled out and upside down.

Panties not bunched up. This was not a good way to show our disdain for TSUN. Some people (Not me) get offended by crazy **** like that. It also gives TSUN ammunition against us.

 

[mstateglfr]

I don't understand the point of your post. Was it an attempt to disagree with my quote?

 

[missouridawg]

I've had friends in Denver, Seattle, and KC all ask me about the warm ups. Hell, my wife, who hates sports, asked me about it last night. And her Internet surfing goes between people.com, cooking websites, and Pinterest.... With very few stops in between.

Howland, Dak, and Mullen get interviewed every week. And no one cares about that, nationally.

 

[AtomicDog001]

Everyone has complained about the experiments up to this point. I'm not sure why this scenario is any different.

I'm in the camp that doesn't get excited about 17 uni combos. Lots of flair at this point with little substance.

 

[DAWG61]

The more I think about it the less I have a problem with a WARMUP shirt that doesn't even have a cuss word on it. Show me where f--k is considered a cuss word. It's even upside down too. Those with a problem with this are CHOOSING to have a problem with it. Dropping Adidas would be a gigantic mistake and would totally wipe out the decade plus relationship we've built up with them. Bunch of morons trying to hurt MSU by choosing to be offended by something that isn't even a word. Dropping Adidas would have a negative effect for a long time. There's only three options. Adidas, Nike and Under Armour. UA equipment sucks and they are way way behind Adidas and Nike. Ole Miss is Nike and we dropped Nike before so good luck getting anything of value from them. We are moving up in the ranks of importance for Adidas and Adidas is a major major player in the basketball world.

 

[dawgface]

amen! i'd like to get one also. friday afternoon, i asked about them at the lodge and an old guy who appeared to be running it kinda puffed up and said that they didn't want that "vulgar thing" in there, said they were probably as far away from the university and they could get by now. a student working there afterwards told me that it wouldn't have been so bad if the main sponsor hadn't ambushed the university with it.....anyway, all that said, i think the shirts were terrific and would like to get one for myself!