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Spending cash is free speech
- SCOTUS - 2002
Thanks GW Bush and Justice Roberts.
 

fatpiggy

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I know it happens at WINRED too.

Where are all these donations coming from? Hundreds of people have claimed donations are in there name and they claim they never made the donation.

Seems like dark money at play.
 
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UrHuckleberry

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I know it happens at WINRED too.

Where are all these donations coming from? Hundreds of people have claimed donations are in there name and they claim they never made the donation.

Seems like dark money at play.
Is it just their name or confirmed through SSN, etc?
 
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UrHuckleberry

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Now that Elon commented on it the Left is going to cape HARD for ActBlue. lol

Did you check the SSN? haha. 🤡
Man I'm open to people using ActBlue for corruption. But two people can have the same name right? Thats why I ask. There were at one point 10k dead people that voted in Georgia.

I'm just wary anytime something that seems like this easy of a slam dunk case that hasn't been prosecuted if its been out there a while. Don't think it was a ridiculous question. I have a pretty unique last name, but if you google me, you find old tennis results of mine, my LinkedIn, and lots and lots of photo credits for someone with my exact last name that is a somewhat well known hairdresser in the Seattle area. But guess there could be a third that is a clown. You do you.
 

fatpiggy

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Man I'm open to people using ActBlue for corruption. But two people can have the same name right? Thats why I ask. There were at one point 10k dead people that voted in Georgia.

I'm just wary anytime something that seems like this easy of a slam dunk case that hasn't been prosecuted if its been out there a while. Don't think it was a ridiculous question. I have a pretty unique last name, but if you google me, you find old tennis results of mine, my LinkedIn, and lots and lots of photo credits for someone with my exact last name that is a somewhat well known hairdresser in the Seattle area. But guess there could be a third that is a clown. You do you.
It's hundreds of names.

One or two a coincidence? sure. But it's literally hundreds. One name donated 12,000 times. Lots of shady **** going on.

I don't deny it happens at WinRed too. Getting corruption out of politics should be a bi-partisan issue.
 

yoshi121374

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It's hundreds of names.

One or two a coincidence? sure. But it's literally hundreds. One name donated 12,000 times. Lots of shady **** going on.

I don't deny it happens at WinRed too. Getting corruption out of politics should be a bi-partisan issue.

Agreed, and I would feel much better if they investigated both at the same time. Want claim you are eliminating cheating, don't blame only the other side.
 

fatpiggy

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Agreed, and I would feel much better if they investigated both at the same time. Want claim you are eliminating cheating, don't blame only the other side.
100% agree. I do find it odd they don't investigate WINRED at the same time. When Okeefe or whomever looked into ActBlue, they then found the same thing at WINRED. So I don't understand why they are not included.
 

UrHuckleberry

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It's hundreds of names.

One or two a coincidence? sure. But it's literally hundreds. One name donated 12,000 times. Lots of shady **** going on.

I don't deny it happens at WinRed too. Getting corruption out of politics should be a bi-partisan issue.
My example in georgia was 10k names. We have millions of people in the US, and obviously more when including foreign sources. I am not saying there wasn't corruption, identity theft, etc. I am saying there hasn't been a good track record recently with these sort of claims. But what I'm saying should be fairly easy to confirm if they subpoena records. Just like when it came down to lawsuits, those people weren't dead, there were just dead people with the same name.
 
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TheValley91

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100% agree. I do find it odd they don't investigate WINRED at the same time. When Okeefe or whomever looked into ActBlue, they then found the same thing at WINRED. So I don't understand why they are not included.
You don't understand???

I mean really you are not a serious individual.
 
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iceheart08

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I was a day early here, but a lighter version of the EO that I saw drafted eventually went live, copied above.

Strange to highlight actblue's own data/attempts to mitigate the risk here, that line will certainly be used in court by actblue.

This thing is ultimately fine. Long ways from what I saw two days ago.
 
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yoshi121374

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I was a day early here, but a lighter version of the EO that I saw drafted eventually went live, copied above.

Strange to highlight actblue's own data/attempts to mitigate the risk here, that line will certainly be used in court by actblue.

This thing is ultimately fine. Long ways from what I saw two days ago.

I just want to see them investigate both groups. I highly doubt one is doing it and not both.

I also doubt it's something nefarious, since it rarely ever does. How about those JFK and RFK Files?
 

baltimorened

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Man I'm open to people using ActBlue for corruption. But two people can have the same name right? Thats why I ask. There were at one point 10k dead people that voted in Georgia.

I'm just wary anytime something that seems like this easy of a slam dunk case that hasn't been prosecuted if its been out there a while. Don't think it was a ridiculous question. I have a pretty unique last name, but if you google me, you find old tennis results of mine, my LinkedIn, and lots and lots of photo credits for someone with my exact last name that is a somewhat well known hairdresser in the Seattle area. But guess there could be a third that is a clown. You do you.
true, but I believe that when you contribute you have to give address as well...I wouldn't swear to it, haven't made a contribution in years.

edit: dug a little deeper... If you make a donation of $200 or more to a federal candidate, then that candidate is required to disclose your name, occupation, employer, address, donation date, and donation amount to the Federal Election Commission. Anyone can search for the political contribution history of themselves or others on the FEC website.
 

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Good question
lol, this thread was started to defend the “above board” actions of ActBlue. They’re fraudsters like just about any other liberal democrat institution. You think comparing that to Trump matters? People know two things about him - he’s loud and obnoxious, democrats will do anything to destroy him. This is something completely different. This isn’t one man, this is the one of the main fundraising components of the entire party. Well done libs.
 

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lol, this thread was started to defend the “above board” actions of ActBlue. They’re fraudsters like just about any other liberal democrat institution. You think comparing that to Trump matters? People know two things about him - he’s loud and obnoxious, democrats will do anything to destroy him. This is something completely different. This isn’t one man, this is the one of the main fundraising components of the entire party. Well done libs.
I couldn’t care less about Act Blue or their apparent fraud. I’m pointing out mocking them for invoking the 5th amendment doesn’t hold up considering Donnie T did it 400+ times and I’m sure you’d say he was innocent
 
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I couldn’t care less about Act Blue or their apparent fraud. I’m pointing out mocking them for invoking the 5th amendment doesn’t hold up considering Donnie T did it 400+ times and I’m sure you’d say he was innocent
Oh you’re doing the old “whataboutism” move. Cool. Let me try.

I couldn’t care less about Trump or his apparent fraud. I’m pointing out mocking him for invoking the 5th amendment doesn’t hold up considering ActBlue had 5 representatives did it and I’m sure you’d say was innocent.

How’s that?
 

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Oh you’re doing the old “whataboutism” move. Cool. Let me try.

I couldn’t care less about Trump or his apparent fraud. I’m pointing out mocking him for invoking the 5th amendment doesn’t hold up considering ActBlue had 5 representatives did it and I’m sure you’d say was innocent.

How’s that?
No, I’m sure ActBlue is guilty, just like Trump was. I loathe fundraising organizations because I think they’re all corrupt and predatory.
 
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No, I’m sure ActBlue is guilty, just like Trump was. I loathe fundraising organizations because I think they’re all corrupt and predatory.
Then I’m confused why you bring up Trump. I agree with this particular post. Trump pisses me off too btw, I don’t defend him, perhaps you have me confused. I’ve kinda boiled it down to this - I really liked the CANDIDATE Trump, I think if he would’ve done what he ran on we would be better off. I’m not as thrilled with what he’s done as president. I don’t think he should be in prison but I’m not overly thrilled with everything he does either. Specifically the war in Iran, I really don’t like that.
 
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I couldn’t care less about Act Blue or their apparent fraud. I’m pointing out mocking them for invoking the 5th amendment doesn’t hold up considering Donnie T did it 400+ times and I’m sure you’d say he was innocent
I think part of the issue was that most on the left brought up "why would trump use the 5th if he wasn't covering up something"?

Now act blue employees are doing the same thing. So you would think that everyone would be asking the same question that they asked previously.
 

yoshi121374

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I think part of the issue was that most on the left brought up "why would trump use the 5th if he wasn't covering up something"?

Now act blue employees are doing the same thing. So you would think that everyone would be asking the same question that they asked previously.

The only reason the left blasted Trump for it, was because he was blasting others previously for taking the 5th and saying that meant they were guilty.

They all do it, and I'm sure that's what their lawyer wants for them to do, but the attacks and hypocrisy all around is funny.
 

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I think part of the issue was that most on the left brought up "why would trump use the 5th if he wasn't covering up something"?

Now act blue employees are doing the same thing. So you would think that everyone would be asking the same question that they asked previously.
To expound on this. It shows how ridiculous our nation has become. Now lawfare is commonplace on both sides. The institution that is supposed to seek justice now seeks revenge. I blame the judges btw, they should be held to a higher standard than our brain dead politicians.
 
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dpic73

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lol, this thread was started to defend the “above board” actions of ActBlue. They’re fraudsters like just about any other liberal democrat institution. You think comparing that to Trump matters? People know two things about him - he’s loud and obnoxious, democrats will do anything to destroy him. This is something completely different. This isn’t one man, this is the one of the main fundraising components of the entire party. Well done libs.
Trump IS the main fundraising component for his party but oddly, I don't recall you ever complaining about his actions.

1. Deceptive "Recurring Donation" Tactics
Investigations revealed that the 2020 Trump campaign used manipulative digital design, often called "dark patterns," to steer supporters into making unwitting donations.
  • Pre-checked Boxes: The campaign implemented pre-checked boxes on its donation portal that automatically enrolled donors in recurring weekly contributions.
  • "Money Bombs": A second pre-checked box would often double a person’s initial contribution.
  • Impact: By late 2020, fraud complaints from donors spiked, accounting for up to 3% of all credit card fraud traffic for some financial institutions.
  • Refunds: The campaign was eventually forced to refund more than $122 million to supporters who claimed they had been deceived.
2. The "Official Election Defense Fund"
The House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack highlighted what it called the "Big Rip-Off," alleging the campaign used false election fraud claims to raise hundreds of millions of dollars for a fund that did not exist.
  • Nonexistent Fund: Between Election Day 2020 and January 6, 2021, the campaign raised nearly $250 million for an "Official Election Defense Fund".
  • Misdirection of Funds: Testimony revealed this fund was never formally created. Instead, the money was directed to Trump’s Save America PAC, which used the funds for legal fees, travel, and donations to political allies rather than election litigation.
Trump Donation Fraud
 
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Trump IS the main fundraising component for his party but oddly, I don't recall you ever complaining about his actions.

1. Deceptive "Recurring Donation" Tactics
Investigations revealed that the 2020 Trump campaign used manipulative digital design, often called "dark patterns," to steer supporters into making unwitting donations.
  • Pre-checked Boxes: The campaign implemented pre-checked boxes on its donation portal that automatically enrolled donors in recurring weekly contributions.
  • "Money Bombs": A second pre-checked box would often double a person’s initial contribution.
  • Impact: By late 2020, fraud complaints from donors spiked, accounting for up to 3% of all credit card fraud traffic for some financial institutions.
  • Refunds: The campaign was eventually forced to refund more than $122 million to supporters who claimed they had been deceived.
2. The "Official Election Defense Fund"
The House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack highlighted what it called the "Big Rip-Off," alleging the campaign used false election fraud claims to raise hundreds of millions of dollars for a fund that did not exist.
  • Nonexistent Fund: Between Election Day 2020 and January 6, 2021, the campaign raised nearly $250 million for an "Official Election Defense Fund".
  • Misdirection of Funds: Testimony revealed this fund was never formally created. Instead, the money was directed to Trump’s Save America PAC, which used the funds for legal fees, travel, and donations to political allies rather than election litigation.
Trump Donation Fraud
fundraising is a dog eat dog business. Have a friend whose former wife is a fundraiser for Democrat candidates...she makes 10% of every dollar donated. She's very successful, makes 7 figures a year and has for decades.
 
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Trump IS the main fundraising component for his party but oddly, I don't recall you ever complaining about his actions.

1. Deceptive "Recurring Donation" Tactics
Investigations revealed that the 2020 Trump campaign used manipulative digital design, often called "dark patterns," to steer supporters into making unwitting donations.
  • Pre-checked Boxes: The campaign implemented pre-checked boxes on its donation portal that automatically enrolled donors in recurring weekly contributions.
  • "Money Bombs": A second pre-checked box would often double a person’s initial contribution.
  • Impact: By late 2020, fraud complaints from donors spiked, accounting for up to 3% of all credit card fraud traffic for some financial institutions.
  • Refunds: The campaign was eventually forced to refund more than $122 million to supporters who claimed they had been deceived.
2. The "Official Election Defense Fund"
The House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack highlighted what it called the "Big Rip-Off," alleging the campaign used false election fraud claims to raise hundreds of millions of dollars for a fund that did not exist.
  • Nonexistent Fund: Between Election Day 2020 and January 6, 2021, the campaign raised nearly $250 million for an "Official Election Defense Fund".
  • Misdirection of Funds: Testimony revealed this fund was never formally created. Instead, the money was directed to Trump’s Save America PAC, which used the funds for legal fees, travel, and donations to political allies rather than election litigation.
Trump Donation Fraud
Awesome. Doesn’t counter the point that Actblue is corrupt. That was the premise of the thread I think. As if one corrupt entity attacking another corrupt entity should raise alarms lol.
 

dpic73

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Awesome. Doesn’t counter the point that Actblue is corrupt. That was the premise of the thread I think. As if one corrupt entity attacking another corrupt entity should raise alarms lol.
Cool, then like him, let's slap them on the wrist and pretend like it never happened! And if they continue their wrongdoing, let's ignore that too! We good?
  • Donations and Pardons: Recent reporting from late 2025 and 2026 has noted a pattern where major campaign donors or their associates received presidential pardons, including individuals convicted of tax crimes or wire fraud.
Here is a list of fraudsters pardoned by Trump/Vance:

• Dinesh D’Souza: Convicted of campaign contribution fraud via illegal straw donations.
• Conrad Moffat Black: Convicted of mail fraud and obstruction related to business dealings.
• Michael Robert Milken: Convicted of conspiracy, securities fraud, mail fraud, and tax fraud in the 1980s junk bond/insider trading scandal.
• Philip Esformes: Convicted in one of the largest Medicare/Medicaid fraud schemes (over $1 billion in fraudulent claims via nursing homes and kickbacks).
• Salomon Melgen: Convicted of health care fraud involving tens of millions in fraudulent Medicare billing as an eye doctor.
• Faustino Bernadett (and similar health care figures like those in large-scale schemes): Convicted in health care fraud with sham contracts and kickbacks exceeding $900 million in fraudulent bills.
• Michael Ashley: Convicted of bank fraud tied to a mortgage company collapse.
• John Duncan Fordham: Convicted of health care fraud as a pharmacist.
• Steve Stockman: Convicted of mail and wire fraud, campaign finance violations, and money laundering (misusing charitable donations).
• Chris Collins: Convicted of securities fraud and insider trading (providing material nonpublic information).
• Sholom Rubashkin: Convicted of bank fraud, wire fraud, mail fraud, and money laundering in a large-scale meatpacking financial scheme.
• Judith Negron: Convicted of conspiracy to commit health care fraud, health care fraud, kickbacks, money laundering, and structuring (part of a major scheme).
• Fred Davis Clark Jr.: Convicted of bank fraud and false statements in connection with federally insured loans.
• Albert J. Pirro Jr.: Convicted of conspiracy, tax evasion, and multiple counts of fraud.
• Additional health care executives/doctors (at least 10 total in first term): Convicted in large-scale Medicare fraud schemes involving false billing and kickbacks.

Trevor Milton: Convicted of securities fraud and wire fraud (false statements to investors about Nikola Corp. technology).
• Devon Archer: Convicted of conspiracy to commit securities fraud and securities fraud (defrauding a Native American tribe in a bond scheme).
• Brian Kelsey: Convicted of conspiring to defraud the United States and aiding excessive campaign contributions.
• Todd Chrisley and Julie Chrisley: Convicted of bank fraud, tax evasion, and conspiracy to defraud banks (over $30 million in fraudulent loans).
• George Santos: Convicted of wire fraud, identity theft, aggravated identity theft, and embezzlement/fraud from campaign donors and unemployment benefits.
• Michael Grimm: Convicted of tax fraud (underreporting income and filing false tax returns).
• Jacob Deutsch: Convicted of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and wire fraud (mortgage fraud scheme).
• Adriana Isabel Camberos (aka Adriana Shayota): Convicted of mail and wire fraud in a counterfeit 5-Hour Energy scheme (millions in restitution; previously had a related sentence commuted in first term).
• Andres Enrique Camberos: Convicted alongside his sister in the mail and wire fraud counterfeit product scheme.
• Terren Peizer: Convicted of insider trading and securities fraud (health care company scheme).
• Wanda Vázquez Garced: Convicted of campaign finance violations tied to bribery and wire fraud scheme.
• Julio Herrera Velutini: Convicted of wire fraud and related bribery/conspiracy.
• Mark Rossini: Convicted of wire fraud in the same bribery scheme.
• Michele Fiore: Convicted of wire fraud and charity fraud (misusing funds for slain officers).
• Glen Casada (and Cade Cothren): Convicted of honest services fraud and conspiracy to defraud in a public corruption/kickback scheme.
• Carlos Watson: Convicted of fraud (Ozy Media investor fraud scheme; sentence commuted).
• Jason Galanis: Convicted of multiple counts of conspiracy to commit securities fraud, securities fraud, and investment adviser fraud.
 
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Cool, then like him, let's slap them on the wrist and pretend like it never happened! And if they continue their wrongdoing, let's ignore that too! We good?
  • Donations and Pardons: Recent reporting from late 2025 and 2026 has noted a pattern where major campaign donors or their associates received presidential pardons, including individuals convicted of tax crimes or wire fraud.
Here is a list of fraudsters pardoned by Trump/Vance:

• Dinesh D’Souza: Convicted of campaign contribution fraud via illegal straw donations.
• Conrad Moffat Black: Convicted of mail fraud and obstruction related to business dealings.
• Michael Robert Milken: Convicted of conspiracy, securities fraud, mail fraud, and tax fraud in the 1980s junk bond/insider trading scandal.
• Philip Esformes: Convicted in one of the largest Medicare/Medicaid fraud schemes (over $1 billion in fraudulent claims via nursing homes and kickbacks).
• Salomon Melgen: Convicted of health care fraud involving tens of millions in fraudulent Medicare billing as an eye doctor.
• Faustino Bernadett (and similar health care figures like those in large-scale schemes): Convicted in health care fraud with sham contracts and kickbacks exceeding $900 million in fraudulent bills.
• Michael Ashley: Convicted of bank fraud tied to a mortgage company collapse.
• John Duncan Fordham: Convicted of health care fraud as a pharmacist.
• Steve Stockman: Convicted of mail and wire fraud, campaign finance violations, and money laundering (misusing charitable donations).
• Chris Collins: Convicted of securities fraud and insider trading (providing material nonpublic information).
• Sholom Rubashkin: Convicted of bank fraud, wire fraud, mail fraud, and money laundering in a large-scale meatpacking financial scheme.
• Judith Negron: Convicted of conspiracy to commit health care fraud, health care fraud, kickbacks, money laundering, and structuring (part of a major scheme).
• Fred Davis Clark Jr.: Convicted of bank fraud and false statements in connection with federally insured loans.
• Albert J. Pirro Jr.: Convicted of conspiracy, tax evasion, and multiple counts of fraud.
• Additional health care executives/doctors (at least 10 total in first term): Convicted in large-scale Medicare fraud schemes involving false billing and kickbacks.

Trevor Milton: Convicted of securities fraud and wire fraud (false statements to investors about Nikola Corp. technology).
• Devon Archer: Convicted of conspiracy to commit securities fraud and securities fraud (defrauding a Native American tribe in a bond scheme).
• Brian Kelsey: Convicted of conspiring to defraud the United States and aiding excessive campaign contributions.
• Todd Chrisley and Julie Chrisley: Convicted of bank fraud, tax evasion, and conspiracy to defraud banks (over $30 million in fraudulent loans).
• George Santos: Convicted of wire fraud, identity theft, aggravated identity theft, and embezzlement/fraud from campaign donors and unemployment benefits.
• Michael Grimm: Convicted of tax fraud (underreporting income and filing false tax returns).
• Jacob Deutsch: Convicted of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and wire fraud (mortgage fraud scheme).
• Adriana Isabel Camberos (aka Adriana Shayota): Convicted of mail and wire fraud in a counterfeit 5-Hour Energy scheme (millions in restitution; previously had a related sentence commuted in first term).
• Andres Enrique Camberos: Convicted alongside his sister in the mail and wire fraud counterfeit product scheme.
• Terren Peizer: Convicted of insider trading and securities fraud (health care company scheme).
• Wanda Vázquez Garced: Convicted of campaign finance violations tied to bribery and wire fraud scheme.
• Julio Herrera Velutini: Convicted of wire fraud and related bribery/conspiracy.
• Mark Rossini: Convicted of wire fraud in the same bribery scheme.
• Michele Fiore: Convicted of wire fraud and charity fraud (misusing funds for slain officers).
• Glen Casada (and Cade Cothren): Convicted of honest services fraud and conspiracy to defraud in a public corruption/kickback scheme.
• Carlos Watson: Convicted of fraud (Ozy Media investor fraud scheme; sentence commuted).
• Jason Galanis: Convicted of multiple counts of conspiracy to commit securities fraud, securities fraud, and investment adviser fraud.
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