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roadtrasheer

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If true, then Trump will say that there won't be a need for more ICU beds since the patients will just die and free up those beds for the next ones to die.
Wouldn't that be the case pre Corona, I mean people go to ICU die & leave or get healthy & leave ....same with Corona they wont be in them beds forever 1 of 2 things will happen....
 

Shirley Knott

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Wouldn't that be the case pre Corona, I mean people go to ICU die & leave or get healthy & leave ....same with Corona they wont be in them beds forever 1 of 2 things will happen....
I'm not a Dr. but would bet that 100% of those ICU patients who quit breathing die.....
 

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I am really disappointed in our liberal brothers on this board. They have sunk to a new low. They are 100% giddy over more people dying....and if this clears up quickly, they will criticize Trump for too much spending....The independents are watching how the left is handling this.
 

JWG66

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I'm not a Dr. but would bet that 100% of those ICU patients who quit breathing die.....

Listening to the daily update, the chances for recovery for patients that have to be on a ventilator are not good at all.
 

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Listening to the daily update, the chances for recovery for patients that have to be on a ventilator are not good at all.
Anybody who gets on ventilator for more than 5 days has a hard time getting off them.
 

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Anybody who gets on ventilator for more than 5 days has a hard time getting off them.

Pleasantly, I'm hearing good results for some of the patients in our area that have been on ventilators. Here's to hoping that we don't see anyone pass locally.
 

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Pleasantly, I'm hearing good results for some of the patients in our area that have been on ventilators. Here's to hoping that we don't see anyone pass locally.
We had a Doc from WVU come to our area to address our dental study club and he's a prominent guy in the field. For some reason I think his last name is Thomas. Said, Europe puts in a trach and then keeps them on the ventilator. Oral bacteria gives the patient pneumonia if the oral vent is used continuously.
 

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We had a Doc from WVU come to our area to address our dental study club and he's a prominent guy in the field. For some reason I think his last name is Thomas. Said, Europe puts in a trach and then keeps them on the ventilator. Oral bacteria gives the patient pneumonia if the oral vent is used continuously.

Having spent many hours in speciality hospitals (Vencor) where everyone is on a vent, it is a pretty much a death sentence. To you point, it is hard to keep bad bacteria from getting into the lungs where they thrive. It's like a super highway for bad bugs to get into the body.
 

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I am really disappointed in our liberal brothers on this board. They have sunk to a new low. They are 100% giddy over more people dying....and if this clears up quickly, they will criticize Trump for too much spending....The independents are watching how the left is handling this.

Desperate times calls for desperate levels of hate, if you're a leftist.

Party of Hate...That's today's left.
 

atlkvb

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I am really disappointed in our liberal brothers on this board. They have sunk to a new low. They are 100% giddy over more people dying....and if this clears up quickly, they will criticize Trump for too much spending....The independents are watching how the left is handling this.

No matter what he (Trump) does, it gets criticized. But we NEVER hear their better alternatives...NEVER.
 

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Pleasantly, I'm hearing good results for some of the patients in our area that have been on ventilators. Here's to hoping that we don't see anyone pass locally.
Two older gentlemen I know have passed since Friday. They were both very susceptible to not recovering once they got infected.
 

eerdoc

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I am really disappointed in our liberal brothers on this board. They have sunk to a new low. They are 100% giddy over more people dying....and if this clears up quickly, they will criticize Trump for too much spending....The independents are watching how the left is handling this.
Nah, I see no sinking at all. The Dem leaders and the mind numb followers have always had to move UP to reach the bottom of the barrel.
 

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I am really disappointed in our liberal brothers on this board. They have sunk to a new low. They are 100% giddy over more people dying....and if this clears up quickly, they will criticize Trump for too much spending....The independents are watching how the left is handling this.

People are watching how this administration is handling it too. I generally think they have done as good as could be expected with a contagion as virulent as Covid19. My main disappointment is the lack of oversight on 3M.

I do think the public is seeing how relentless this administration is in the trenches. I regret that Biden is hiding off camera while the election draws nearer. If he had to stand before the country even 10% of what DJT is now doing, he would be exhausted and stating all manner of jibberish. I just can’t see him leading us out of anything as complicated as this. And I sure want DJT leading the economic recovery.
 

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People are watching how this administration is handling it too. I generally think they have done as good as could be expected with a contagion as virulent as Covid19. My main disappointment is the lack of oversight on 3M.

I do think the public is seeing how relentless this administration is in the trenches. I regret that Biden is hiding off camera while the election draws nearer. If he had to stand before the country even 10% of what DJT is now doing, he would be exhausted and stating all manner of jibberish. I just can’t see him leading us out of anything as complicated as this. And I sure want DJT leading the economic recovery.

Biden would be hidden behind a press release....Same with Obama...he was good with a teleprompter but not so much when leadership is needed. Could you imagine is HRC was in charge right now? The press would be downplaying it and China would be making billions off of us.
 
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...Same with Obama...he was good with a teleprompter but not so much when leadership is needed.

You mean like pulling us out of the 2nd greatest recession in US history?

You mean like fighting H1N1?

You mean like taking out Bin Laden?

As compared to personally attacking a Purple Heart Recipient, telling a widow her veteran husband is in hell, firing a Navy Captain for caring for his crew, firing the IC IG...
 

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You mean like pulling us out of the 2nd greatest recession in US history?

You mean like fighting H1N1?

You mean like taking out Bin Laden?

As compared to personally attacking a Purple Heart Recipient, telling a widow her veteran husband is in hell, firing a Navy Captain for caring for his crew, firing the IC IG...

-Lots of ways to get out of an economic recession...who is to say that with someone else at the helm, the recession would not have lasted until Trump took office.
-12,000 people died before he recognized it as an emergency. We are at 10,000 and your tribe is going crazy.
-Bush had as much to do with taking out Bin Laden as he did, but I will give him credit for pulling the trigger...something Biden would not have done!
 

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You mean like pulling us out of the 2nd greatest recession in US history?

It wasn't the "2nd greatest recession in US history" and the policies put in place to adress what essentially was a collapse in financing for the housing market all happened BEFORE Zero came into office. If anything, his policies prolonged the expected recovery or at least smothered it. You can't name one thing he (Obama) passed that resulted in greater economic expansion. Not one thing.

You mean like fighting H1N1?

He waited six months before even declaring it a national emergency, and this was after thousands had already died exceeding the current coronavirus body count & we have the entire nation on economic lockdown! Obama still never had to deal with a shuttered economy even after he announced it a health risk...no comparison between the two whatsoever.

You mean like taking out Bin Laden?

The current presumed Democrat Presidential leader YOU are ready to vote for opposed his own administration's policy on removing Bin Laden! Obama didn't "identify" him as a target ...that happened in the previous administration, to his credit he overruled Biden and gave the go ahead to take Bin Laden out once a clean shot was assured.

Biden even opposed shutting off flights from WuHan China back in January when Trump ordered them suspended! How much worse would this outbreak be if we had followed Biden's ill informed advice?

Shut up country, hard to believe you are as uninformed as you sound but the Truth is verified.
 

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People are watching how this administration is handling it too. I generally think they have done as good as could be expected with a contagion as virulent as Covid19. My main disappointment is the lack of oversight on 3M.

I do think the public is seeing how relentless this administration is in the trenches. I regret that Biden is hiding off camera while the election draws nearer. If he had to stand before the country even 10% of what DJT is now doing, he would be exhausted and stating all manner of jibberish. I just can’t see him leading us out of anything as complicated as this. And I sure want DJT leading the economic recovery.
I suspect that the Dums are just hoping for a Trump defeat knowing that they can replace Biden at any time due to his failing health......mt opinion..
 

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You mean like pulling us out of the 2nd greatest recession in US history?

You mean like fighting H1N1?

You mean like taking out Bin Laden?

As compared to personally attacking a Purple Heart Recipient, telling a widow her veteran husband is in hell, firing a Navy Captain for caring for his crew, firing the IC IG...
SecNav fired that Admiral all on his own and rightfully so. That was a huge OPSEC no no. He put the whole Carrier TF at risk by divulging his readiness status openly. That is at a minimum Secret level intel and in the case of a carrier, I’d guess it was TS.
 

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You mean like pulling us out of the 2nd greatest recession in US history?

You mean like fighting H1N1?

You mean like taking out Bin Laden?

As compared to personally attacking a Purple Heart Recipient, telling a widow her veteran husband is in hell, firing a Navy Captain for caring for his crew, firing the IC IG...
Bahahahahahaha. Stay stupid forever.
 

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I heard 25% recover.
They don’t talk about it a lot. You could well be in the ball park. Listened to NPR on the way home tonight and they were reporting how hard it was to coordinate the ventilator with a person’s respiration. And they need more of the drugs to work with the equipment. This thing is complicated. It’s worth avoiding.
 
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SecNav fired that Admiral all on his own and rightfully so. That was a huge OPSEC no no. He put the whole Carrier TF at risk by divulging his readiness status openly. That is at a minimum Secret level intel and in the case of a carrier, I’d guess it was TS.


Rightfully so? You are a complete f’ucking moron.
 

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Rightfully so? You are a complete f’ucking moron.
I understand you’re completely ignorant to military protocols, well, you’re just ignorant in general. Regardless, divulging readiness status of his carrier group divulged classified information.

As a process, if he was requesting and not receiving the attention he needed from his higher command, he had a process he could’ve easily followed that didn’t include divulging classified intel. He could’ve “requested mast” which allows him to go to his next higher level command and comes without reprisal. Kind of like whistleblower law.

The Navy takes this **** extremely serious. Loose lips sink ships and all that, but, the Navy doesn’t **** around.

That aside, I do respect his willingness to shitcan his career for what he felt was in the best interest of his shipmates.
 
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SecNav fired that Admiral all on his own and rightfully so. That was a huge OPSEC no no. He put the whole Carrier TF at risk by divulging his readiness status openly. That is at a minimum Secret level intel and in the case of a carrier, I’d guess it was TS.

The dipshit secretary of the Navy resigned.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
 

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The dipshit secretary of the Navy resigned.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Look at country.....acting all "superior" to @DvlDog4WVU 's intimate familiarity with Military protocols. Never even cleaned a latrine!
(or that bacteria filled mouth substituting as country's own personal sewer) [eyeroll]
 
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