Abrupt Movement

Redscarlet

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They need to get rid of conference refs and just have NCAA refs. Same guys shouldn’t officials for the same teams year after year. They get to know coaches to well and creat bias, even if it’s subconscious. There are 136 teams so at least 68 crews right. That’s enough to rotate to stop bias

The fact that conferences don’t push for this tells you something’s up
Kind of wonder that they might do it regional where the refs live around that area.
 

Kato

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It’s not new. It’s being emphasized……against us.
New rules for 2025, there's a few others but this is the wording on "Abrupt Movement". Not saying that I agree with it, just that it now exist.

  • Defensive pre-snap movement:
    Defensive players positioned within one yard of the line of scrimmage cannot make abrupt movements to draw the offense into a false start penalty.
Check this article and scroll down to Defensive delay of game.

 
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WHCSC

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New rules for 2025, there's a few others but this is the wording on "Abrupt Movement". Not saying that I agree with it, just that it now exist.

  • Defensive pre-snap movement:
    Defensive players positioned within one yard of the line of scrimmage cannot make abrupt movements to draw the offense into a false start penalty.
Ridiculous
 

Kakdawg

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Seemed consistent with how they called the game up to that point?
Seemed consistent with how they called the game up to that point?

I guess U could say that. There were some questionable calls to be sure. I'm simply saying that particular one probably changes the outcome of the game based on past Nebraska history.

Long story short if there was one call to miss in the entire game I'll take THAT one over all the bad ones that went against us. Although that spot on 4th down was close. That one likely changes the way the game goes as well. But that last one DEFINITELY did so just glad they missed one that favored us.



Holla
 

Huskers12345

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I guess U could say that. There were some questionable calls to be sure. I'm simply saying that particular one probably changes the outcome of the game based on past Nebraska history.

Long story short if there was one call to miss in the entire game I'll take THAT one over all the bad ones that went against us. Although that spot on 4th down was close. That one likely changes the way the game goes as well. But that last one DEFINITELY did so just glad they missed one that favored us.



Holla
Our defense should have been off the field on that last score. Not a first down by NW.
 
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Then shifting is illegal
This is the problem when they put this rule in . There is to much of a gray Area in interpreting what a normal shift is compared to an abrupt move.The fact we are having a disagreement on this proves my point of interpretation. I think Von Popple made an abrupt move on his shift and you don’t see it that way . A lot of coaches are complaining on this rule because it’s not being called consistently.
 

Spinner4

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Kind of wonder that they might do it regional where the refs live around that area.
That’s exactly what they say. College football refs are part time jobs so they have to have guys who are close, so they say. Plus it’s a money issue. But the B1G is coast to coast now. So regions shouldn’t factor anymore

Also the problem is you have guys who grew up in the area that maybe hating and loving certain programs. Example I know someone who worked with a certain ref in Springfield MO. Met him back when we were Big 12. He joked with me he hated Nebraska growing up. He was the ref against Purdue a few years ago when the stadium almost went crazy on the refs.

now when he’s our ref I bet against us. Have done well with that. Coincidence maybe. But money sure doesn’t think so. And this guy is usually one of the B1G finest
 
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It can be a really tough thing to watch sometimes.

At one point during the game, the white female ref tried getting a new ball from the sideline. She slips/trips, ball gets tossed to her, she then realizes another ref had already gotten a different ball, she tries to toss it back to the ball boy, of course it doesnt get to him so it's bouncing around on the field near the sideline.

It was rough...
That one made me chuckle.
 
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broken record

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Kind of wonder that they might do it regional where the refs live around that area.
In my opinion refs are too protected on judgement calls. We need more than just targeting to be immediately reviewed. That was the most baffling penalty I've ever seen. DL shifts are a normal defensive strategy and the only thing that happened was the NW OL jumped. That penalty was significant.
As for the 4th down bobble catch, why wasn't that even measured? The review should have been to place the ball. NOT to declare first down. The refs just have determined the spot and had the chain crew measure it. That was inexcusable.
 

4.6.3

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A shift is not an abrupt movement. An abrupt movement is jerking your hand toward the OL causing him to flinch. Shifts have been aroudn forever. That was just a completely bonkers call in a key situation.
Our guys saw the flag, stood up, clapped and went back to the huddle. After it was announced they turned around with their hands out, absolutely dumbfounded. Why there needed to be 4 stripes in a huddle discussing how to make it a call against the Huskers was very telling. The crew was absolute ****, and slanted. Sometimes a spade is a spade. But to the B1G, it’s not possible to admit that.
 
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BleedRed89

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Its technically the rule. But the rule is stupid. We already give far too much favor to offenses.

They can fake a hard count all day but we cant abruptly move?
 
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New rules for 2025, there's a few others but this is the wording on "Abrupt Movement". Not saying that I agree with it, just that it now exist.

  • Defensive pre-snap movement:
    Defensive players positioned within one yard of the line of scrimmage cannot make abrupt movements to draw the offense into a false start penalty.
Check this article and scroll down to Defensive delay of game.

No.

This is what I copied and pasted from an article discussing the rule as well.

"Any defensive team player within one yard of the line of scrimmage (stationary or not) may not make quick and abrupt or exaggerated actions that simulate action at the snap and are not part of normal defensive player movement in an obvious attempt to make the offense foul."

Not part of normal defensive player movement.
 

4.6.3

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So o-lineman can come out of their stance to look at the sideline, but defensive players can’t move. Cool
 

NikkiSixx

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Our guys saw the flag, stood up, clapped and went back to the huddle. After it was announced they turned around with their hands out, absolutely dumbfounded. Why there needed to be 4 stripes in a huddle discussing how to make it a call against the Huskers was very telling. The crew was absolute ****, and slanted. Sometimes a spade is a spade. But to the B1G, it’s not possible to admit that.
those bastards really got under your skin didn't they? geez
 

lifer56

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So o-lineman can come out of their stance to look at the sideline, but defensive players can’t move. Cool
Not if his hand is down.

And it’s not like a guy predictably checking over his shoulder is going to draw anyone offsides.
 

4.6.3

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Not if his hand is down.

And it’s not like a guy predictably checking over his shoulder is going to draw anyone offsides.
The 2 point stance excuse has always been stupid imo. Why do they get to stand up and look around. Couldn’t the defense jump and say “I saw sudden movement and it caused me to jump”…. It’s just lame as **** they restrict only defensive players. The offensive players know the cadence and count. That alone is a slight advantage. With all the rules against defense it seems kind of lame to keep adding on rules. Bear in mind in my limited football career, I played offense… so I used to lean toward that side of the ball. Now I think the opposite.
but anyway, get off my lawn
 
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Baxter48

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The 2 point stance excuse has always been stupid imo. Why do they get to stand up and look around. Couldn’t the defense jump and say “I saw sudden movement and it caused me to jump”…. It’s just lame as **** they restrict only defensive players. The offensive players know the cadence and count. That alone is a slight advantage. With all the rules against defense it seems kind of lame to keep adding on rules. Bear in mind in my limited football career, I played offense… so I used to lean toward that side of the ball. Now I think the opposite.
but anyway, get off my lawn
The old days the offensive line had to be in a 3 point stance what was called set once set the lineman couldn’t move or wiggle side to side and the defensive could move lateral but not forward. Now he offense can do just about anything and the defense can’t
 
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4.6.3

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The old days the offensive line had to be in a 3 point stance what was called set once set the lineman couldn’t move or wiggle side to side and the defensive could move lateral but not forward. Now he offense can do just about anything and the defense can’t
I’m aware. It’s annoying. Everything is slanted toward the offense.
 
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