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MarkDallas

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Multiple national champions here we come.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/g...fter-feeling-jilted-by-the-cfp-163808257.html

Was Western Michigan ranked too low this year? Probably. Should they have been in the playoff? I don't think so.

I understand that you can't assume G5 teams are lesser than P5, but you also can't assume that undefeated G5 team is on par with a 1 or 2 loss P5 team. The resume should speak for itself regardless of conference.
 

Drebin

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I don't have a problem with this. Why not have championships by class, like they do in boxing? If P5 is heavyweight and G5 is light heavyweight, let them have their own championships.

Western Michigan is a good football team, no doubt. Would they be undefeated playing in the B10 or in the SEC West? Most likely not. I don't think it's always fair to the P5s who play tougher schedules to have to take a back seat and watch one of these teams take a NY6 bowl spot. I'm not taking anything away from those schools - and many of them are competitive in their bowl games. But they definitely have an easier path there than many of the P5s.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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Thread hijack: Sidebar article

"Ezekiel Elliott's Girlfriend is Actually Gorgeous"

Really? A first round draft pick NFL player can get a pretty girlfriend? I'm shocked.
 

MarkDallas

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I don't care if they do it. It's just funny that the BCS and later the Playoff was supposed to eliminate the multiple claims to a national championship (looking at you Alabama), has led to this. Full circle.

Because you can bet that an undefeated G5 playoff champion would stake a claim to the "national championship" over a 1 or 2 loss P5 playoff champion in a given year.
 

Utah_Chaney

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There is no perfect system to keep everyone happy.

People will want 8, then 16 and eventually more.
 

codeDawg

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I fully support it.

Next step: Consolidate both sets of conferences into 4 conferences and now you have a natural 8 team playoff based on conference championship and the whole process becomes less ambiguous.
 

00Dawg

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Want a title? Follow the Playstation/XBox NCAA Football model: go undefeated over multiple years.
 

MaroonNation

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There is no perfect system to keep everyone happy.

People will want 8, then 16 and eventually more.


8 is the perfect number. Conference champ from each Power 5 conference plus 3 at large. That would make your conference championships actually mean something again
 

johnson86-1

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I would support this
A G5 championship would just make the G5 schools a more prestigious FCS. Not sure how that would work with the bowls filled by G5 teams but short of further devaluing bowls that don't have two P5 teams playing, doesn't seem like it will hurt MSU. I guess you'd eventually start tracking wins versus p5 and wins versus G5 teams, which would make MSu's record look worse because our P5 teams opponents would be so stout on average.
 

preacher_dawg

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Of course, that can no longer be a model because they don't make those games anymore (Thanks O'bannon).
 

engie

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I don't care if they do it. It's just funny that the BCS and later the Playoff was supposed to eliminate the multiple claims to a national championship (looking at you Alabama), has led to this. Full circle.

Because you can bet that an undefeated G5 playoff champion would stake a claim to the "national championship" over a 1 or 2 loss P5 playoff champion in a given year.

It simply adds a division. Which has been inevitable ever since we signed the first tv megacontract. Do you see a bunch of North Dakota States claiming titles over Alabama? I don't. And this is basically the same thing. It just adds a division between the two.

If it works out in a given year that a team is good enough to play up a division and actually earn a spot in the higher division's playoff -- so be it. Clearly a couple of those TCU and Boise teams were good enough before the money really got crazy. I find this scenario highly doubtful, however.
 

Utah_Chaney

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8 is the perfect number. Conference champ from each Power 5 conference plus 3 at large. That would make your conference championships actually mean something again

If it's the BCS or a tournament with 128, I'll be watching regardless, but I do think the idea of 8 could be good. I think until there is an "equal" opportunity for all parties involved, whatever that might be, there will still be complaints of someone being left out.
 

patdog

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This is just one more step on the path to splitting BCS into 2 divisions.
 
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