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now if you'd like to peruse them. The People's University indeed.
now if you'd like to peruse them. The People's University indeed.
A recruit's Dad's perspective on message board talk..
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There are plenty of reasons to decommit from a school or not commit at all. Message posters are an easy excuse to use because there's always an ******* in the bunch. Don't take this as me excusing the bashing of a recruit in a public forum because I'm not. It's wrong, but my point is it's just an excuse.
Example. CJ Johnson decommits from State and commits to the Rebels. There were rumors starting to heat up during the dead period he was flipping. A month later he used Facebook and message boards as the reason he flipped. 2 months earlier he was verbally and physically assaulted, by a Rebel fan, in Oxford, while on an official visit because he was a Bulldog commit.
It's going to take a lot more than some random douche on a message board saying crap he shouldn't.
Example. CJ Johnson decommits from State and commits to the Rebels. There were rumors starting to heat up during the dead period he was flipping. A month later he used Facebook and message boards as the reason he flipped. 2 months earlier he was verbally and physically assaulted, by a Rebel fan, in Oxford, while on an official visit because he was a Bulldog commit.
It's going to take a lot more than some random douche on a message board saying crap he shouldn't.
And you apparently missed where I said we ALL learned something from this. But by all means, carry on. I doubt anyone will delete it.
I forgot where I or anyone else said we were perfect. I always say dumb **** on both boards, and I always admit to it if I do. Again, I'm not seeing where anyone called out this board for bashing recruits. I'm simply trying to get all of MSU posters on the same page. Myself included. But as always...we will just continue to do the same ****, and then ***** about why we don't get any good recruits.
I forgot where I or anyone else said we were perfect. I always say dumb **** on both boards, and I always admit to it if I do. Again, I'm not seeing where anyone called out this board for bashing recruits. I'm simply trying to get all of MSU posters on the same page. Myself included. But as always...we will just continue to do the same ****, and then ***** about why we don't get any good recruits.
Here is an honest guide on when it is appropriate to bash an 18 year old...
This thread is hilarious, because it all comes down to self interests, but here is a handy guide for MSU fans knowing when it is ok to bash a player, his family, or friends on a message board based on what I have seen over the last few years on MSU message boards, the reverse probably holds true for OM boards:
NOT OK:
1) Its not ok to post things about a four or five star recruit if he is still listing MSU as one of his favorites.
2) Its not ok to post anything negative about a four or five star recruit's family if he is still listing MSU as one of his favorites.
3) Its not ok to post anything negative about a four or five star recruit's athletic ability if he is still listing MSU as one of his favorites.
OK:
1) Its ok to post things about any recruit that is not considering MSU as an option.
2) Its ok to post things about any recruit that has already signed with MSU (too late for them to change mind).
3) Its ok to post things about any current player, because he has already signed, so tough ****.
4) Its ok to post things about any current player's family because he has already signed, so who cares if it bothers him, tough ****.
5) Its ok to post any negative, race baiting or slanderous comment about any recruit that is committed to Ole Miss.
6) Its ok to post rumors or outright lies about any recruit that has committed or signed with Ole Miss.
7) Its ok to bash the ever living **** about any recruit that flips from MSU to Ole Miss, including that he and his family has been bought and paid for. (Any implication that when a player flips from OM to MSU was for any other reason other than that player's desire to grind, is not ok.)
8) Its ok to post about a player's heart and desire to win after he has started to play for MSU even if you have never talked to that player which would allow you to form that opinion.
9) Its ok to call any recruit that signs or plays for Ole Miss Uncle Toms.
10) Its ok and in fact encouraged to post anything whatsoever that may have the slightest negative impact on Ole MIss regardless if the post is totally fabricated.
This thread is hilarious, because it all comes down to self interests, but here is a handy guide for MSU fans knowing when it is ok to bash a player, his family, or friends on a message board based on what I have seen over the last few years on MSU message boards, the reverse probably holds true for OM boards:
NOT OK:
1) Its not ok to post things about a four or five star recruit if he is still listing MSU as one of his favorites.
2) Its not ok to post anything negative about a four or five star recruit's family if he is still listing MSU as one of his favorites.
3) Its not ok to post anything negative about a four or five star recruit's athletic ability if he is still listing MSU as one of his favorites.
OK:
1) Its ok to post things about any recruit that is not considering MSU as an option.
2) Its ok to post things about any recruit that has already signed with MSU (too late for them to change mind).
3) Its ok to post things about any current player, because he has already signed, so tough ****.
4) Its ok to post things about any current player's family because he has already signed, so who cares if it bothers him, tough ****.
5) Its ok to post any negative, race baiting or slanderous comment about any recruit that is committed to Ole Miss.
6) Its ok to post rumors or outright lies about any recruit that has committed or signed with Ole Miss.
7) Its ok to bash the ever living **** about any recruit that flips from MSU to Ole Miss, including that he and his family has been bought and paid for. (Any implication that when a player flips from OM to MSU was for any other reason other than that player's desire to grind, is not ok.)
8) Its ok to post about a player's heart and desire to win after he has started to play for MSU even if you have never talked to that player which would allow you to form that opinion.
9) Its ok to call any recruit that signs or plays for Ole Miss Uncle Toms.
10) Its ok and in fact encouraged to post anything whatsoever that may have the slightest negative impact on Ole MIss regardless if the post is totally fabricated.
Pardon me if I withhold sympathy for someone who just loves to lob accusations of racism at Ole Miss.
I have a big problem with criticism of an amateur player when they are giving it their all. Don't think that's right. Blame the coach if you want someone to blame. If the player quits and walks off the field? Boo him. But we ought to all know the difference. I don't think people are as entitled as you do.
But this is getting off-subject. I understand your point.
But this is getting off-subject. I understand your point.
Exactly.
And by the way, I never said I disliked black people. My examples actually make a lot of sense and were in regards to the Zimmerman trial. I stand by what I said. I may have gotten a little into it at times, but it wasn't racist.
Context, asshat.
And my criticisms of those who hurt MSU are not aimed at you, Rebel. Rather the lazy and greedy admins of this site who empower you degrade what they claim to support. And also the MSU posters here who do the same with their own words.
Rambis, I respectfully disagree with you. I think it is much higher on the list that you would believe. We live in a world of constant, instand, 24/7 information with Facebook, Twitter and every other form of social media. With information being thrown out so quickly and by so many people, it is difficult to determine what is credible and what is not. And while you and I think (or know rather) that some jackass on the Sixpack is a complete idiot and full of ****, someone else migh (rightly or wrongfully so) perceive a statement as being indicative of a collective belief or a true statement in and of itself. We should all be mindful of this.
Yeah it's not racist because you have black friends and stuff. I think everyone can judge for themselves whether comments like this qualify as racist. But thanks for informing us you still feel this way: "Blacks don’t want equality, they want advantages and special treatment. It’s as if they think since their ancestors were slaves, they can never be found guilty of anything again no matter how true it is, and it’s racism if they do.”
We will agree to disagree. Most of the time booing at State games is directed at the play calling but when a player has been booed it was often deserved.
Yeah they're really killing MSU here, but the trash y'all spewed on your little political board really helped the cause.
I've been waiting on someone to say this, just didn't think it'd be a confederate. I think that it's potentially a terrible idea to be chatting and interacting with a potential players parent. I also think this thread is dumb as 17 and that in the end recruits that have a lick of sense aren't going to let a message board hurt their feelings. Every 17n school bashes recruits, we're no different from the others so some of you 17ers need to step away from the ledge and stop spending every waking minute of every day on the Internet on a message board. We're a few weeks away from football season and you guys are worrying about recruiting? Recruiting? We're talking about recruiting man? Not a game. We're talking about recruiting.
You did intentionally ignore how lots of posters on that thread called the idea that scary blacks would go on a rampage racist. You are twisting it to make the whole board, rather than just the OP, seem racist.
You are also glossing over the ugly incidents (FDWL, KKK rally, Coach Kennedy, Obama riots) that continually plague your school. Yeah, we need to get our act together on the boards, but yall need to get your act together in real life.
You are also glossing over the ugly incidents (FDWL, KKK rally, Coach Kennedy, Obama riots) that continually plague your school. Yeah, we need to get our act together on the boards, but yall need to get your act together in real life.
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