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Curdog7

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Interesting letter. One thing missing was “and I never witnessed or heard about any of the allegations that were described in the Dauly article”.

All these “Fitz is great” comments are fine but I haven’t seen anyone go in record and say “I never wxeperienced, witnessed, or heard about these allegations”.
 

T_Levine

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English is my native language and I can’t write as well as this young man.

Wow
 

NUCat320

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Well, he’s outed the whistleblower.

Even in his defense of Fitz, he does not dispute that hazing occurred. He simply says that it could have been addressed.

Again,
It is possible for an individual to both positively affect hundreds of people in 25 years in the program, and also for that individual to turn a blind eye to a culture that allowed hazing.

A shame that NU hasn’t been able to recruit a quarterback in a decade, I guess.
 
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NUCat320

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In interviews over 6 months with 50+ individuals, a law firm hired by NU determined that the whistleblower was not lying. Lou, who has done excellent work, has validated this report.

Let’s not do election denialism. Sandy Hook happened, and 9/11 was not an inside job.

(Also, the US Government is hiding research on extraterrestrial life. That one’s real. We’re not alone.)
 

CatManTrue

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In interviews over 6 months with 50+ individuals, a law firm hired by NU determined that the whistleblower was not lying. Lou, who has done excellent work, has validated this report.

Let’s not do election denialism. Sandy Hook happened, and 9/11 was not an inside job.

(Also, the US Government is hiding research on extraterrestrial life. That one’s real. We’re not alone.)
He is not necessarily lying; it’s clear these things happened.

But he may be exaggerating or embellishing certain things to get back at Fitz and his staff.

Why have no other players emerged saying that they felt violated by what happened? I expected there to be a half dozen of individuals saying they were abused by now, and that they think coaches need to be fired.

We’re several days in and only one player has said he wants Fitz replaced: the original whistleblower. Meanwhile dozens of others have said the opposite. Whom we do believe?
 
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In interviews over 6 months with 50+ individuals, a law firm hired by NU determined that the whistleblower was not lying.
That's a strong statement to make.

1. Are the whisteblower's statements to the firm the same as the statements to the Daily?
2. If the whistleblower claims that Fitz had knowledge of this, isn't that one of the things that the firm outright stated they couldn't corroborate?
 

hdhntr1

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That's a strong statement to make.

1. Are the whisteblower's statements to the firm the same as the statements to the Daily?
2. If the whistleblower claims that Fitz had knowledge of this, isn't that one of the things that the firm outright stated they couldn't corroborate?
Another is did the law firm know anything of the whistle lower was ready and willing to exaggerate and embellish (lie) to get Fitz fired?
 

Curdog7

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Stop saying this. The report says theee was evidence of hazing. Not necessarily what the whistleblower told the daily.

I have no doubt hazing occurred but let’s not assume that the report corroborates what was in the daily
 

hdhntr1

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Stop saying this. The report says theee was evidence of hazing. Not necessarily what the whistleblower told the daily.

I have no doubt hazing occurred but let’s not assume that the report corroborates what was in the daily
Again, the term "hazing" is very broad. It can mean anything from having to sing your fight song to shower time with Sandusky and a whole lot in between. And they seem to be using the term in a way that paints it with the worst brush whether that is accurate or not
 

Darren72

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Again, the term "hazing" is very broad. It can mean anything from having to sing your fight song to shower time with Sandusky and a whole lot in between. And they seem to be using the term in a way that paints it with the worst brush whether that is accurate or not
You are splitting hairs. By now we all know exactly what the conduct in question is. If you think it could be as benign as having to sing your fight song, you aren't paying attention.
 

JR66

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Freshman hazing at Northwestern

The good-ole pizza to the face surprise.

If you’re wondering… Tommy’s doing great and Fitz is a big part of that.
 

NUCat320

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Another must read.


But, again, no “I never witnessed any hazing during my time at Northwestern, and I am confident that a locker room of that caliber would never have hazing.”

Fitz could have had great impact in developing a player, and could also have permitted hazing of others. In some cases, maybe even the same person.

It feels wrong to me that Fitz is gone. But also I understand why.
 

villox

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But, again, no “I never witnessed any hazing during my time at Northwestern, and I am confident that a locker room of that caliber would never have hazing.”

Fitz could have had great impact in developing a player, and could also have permitted hazing of others. In some cases, maybe even the same person.

It feels wrong to me that Fitz is gone. But also I understand why.
Yup. Every one of these statements praising Fitz but not denying the hazing only increases my belief that it was pervasive.
 

Medill '03

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Yup. Every one of these statements praising Fitz but not denying the hazing only increases my belief that it was pervasive.
I don't know if we can say for sure it was pervasive. But it was clearly real. How does it compare to other programs? I have no idea. I have a hard time believing that anything we've heard was necessary or even in any way helpful to a successful football program.