A 'Millennial Theory'

d2atTech

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1. No he wouldn't
2. Football is so insanely different it isn't applicable

No coach would do it because there'd always be someone else to pay them a regular salary. When you get to the upper tiers of coaching, you don't coach on a "show me" basis. No one does or would. That's why no top coaches have a contract like that.

fine increase the base from a million. do 3M guaranteed, 5 mil for the final four, five extra for the championship. cal would have made $25M from the last seven years, plus the $35M guarenteed.
 

JC for 3

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Sorry, OP.

I get that the baby boomers love to hate on millennials, but anyone (even a millennial) who is playing high major, college basketball at a program like Kentucky didn't make it to that position by being lazy.


....no apology needed. All the different perspectives on this subject have been very interesting.
 

MWes11

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Didn't the Who sing about this 50 years ago...

"People try to put us down...talkin bout my generation."

Same old argument. The past is better, the future is bleak.

It's called romanticism. The longing for the past as a better time.

I am a teacher, and I hear about it all the time from other teachers.

"We didn't do that when we were in school."

Yes we did. Maybe you didn't, but collectively we did.

"But we worked harder."

No we didn't. Maybe you did, but collectively we didn't.

It's not the kids that have changed, it's that your perspective has changed.

So I get tired of kids having their phones out all the time, but if I had that technology when I was a teen you better believe I would have been using it.

They text in class, we passed notes in class. What is the difference? They play games on their apps, we played tic tac toe or doodled in class. What is the difference?

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

There is nothing wrong with this generation.


Look how lazy I am. I put a gif instead of writing out my explanation.
 

StubbornPenny

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fine increase the base from a million. do 3M guaranteed, 5 mil for the final four, five extra for the championship. cal would have made $25M from the last seven years, plus the $35M guarenteed.

No one would put that much of their contract is something that is so random (even though I'm sure he gets huge bonuses already for these things).
 

MegaBlue05

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Except they didn't lie about yal being lazy

Some of us, yes. Some of us, no. Just like with all the others.

I've been employed every day but about 20 since I was old enough to legally work at age 16. Before that, I worked for cash under the table stripping tobacco or hauling hay.

In summary, gross generalizations are seldom accurate.
 

catfanlou

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in Book III of Odes, circa 20 BC, Horace wrote:

Our sires' age was worse than our grandsires'. We, their sons, are more
worthless than they; so in our turn we shall give the world a progeny yet more
corrupt.

Looks like old folks have been dissing Young forks for a long time.
 

Midway Cat

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The baby boomers are the laziest, most self-important and delusional generation our nation ever has produced. Unlike millenials, they were handed literally everything necessary to build a successful life, raise a family, and live better than the previous generation. But nothing was ever enough, and so we're now in a situation where older people take more from the government than they ever contributed, yet they feel entitled to complain about younger people not achieving at the same level.

I know it's hard for some to accept, but we're not living in a post-WWII boom anymore. Millenials are more career-oriented, better educated, and more productive than any previous generation. They work their asses off to earn far less than their parents did with a significantly reduced social net to help them along the way. Perhaps it's not than millenials are lazy, but that some of the people complaining would rather grasp at straws than accept reality.
 

Old Blue Fart

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Tell me GTown; why is it that my old guys show up for work everyday and for the ones under 30, its a crap shot if they show or not.
Why is it the younger ones come to me on Monday and Tuesdays needing an advance?

Why do the younger ones complain that it is too hot, too cold?
If you are so smart, why are you working your *** off for so little?

If old guys are so lazy, what you call someone who worked 35 years, retired, then starts his own business and works 60 hours a week?
There are more people under 40 drawing disability then ever before in this country.

The number of people drawing money for their kids having AD, running noses, are what ever is at a record clip.
Lazy comes in all ages, colors.

I would love to have you for a week. Then I bet you change your tune on what work is.

Old Guys Rule. Got the hat to prove it.
 
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Ukblue12

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I see it more as a coaching issue. If you build your scheme around preparing guys for the NBA versus putting together the best elements that will produce a unified team that has a chance to win a lot of games, you will have a different outcome. Now, I recognize that Cal recruits players to win games. But, I do not see much discipline as a motivational tool to get the players in a 'team think mode.' If players know that they are the priority and the building of a championship team is second, then players can take plays and games off without consequences. A player first program is great until you get a group of kids who are about self promotion and winning is a byproduct of that goal, not a core objective. Jmo

Agree 100%. We make fun of KU when bill sits talented freshman. Alexander and Diallo come to mind lately but there maybe more. Maybe putting some of our guys on the bench for an extended period of time wouldn't be the worse thing. "Player first" programs are great when we're winning. I'd rather Cal take control when things aren't going well and put some motivation/desire/consequences in on these players.
 

*CatinIL*

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Didn't the Who sing about this 50 years ago...

"People try to put us down...talkin bout my generation."

Same old argument. The past is better, the future is bleak.

It's called romanticism. The longing for the past as a better time.

I am a teacher, and I hear about it all the time from other teachers.

"We didn't do that when we were in school."

Yes we did. Maybe you didn't, but collectively we did.

"But we worked harder."

No we didn't. Maybe you did, but collectively we didn't.

It's not the kids that have changed, it's that your perspective has changed.

So I get tired of kids having their phones out all the time, but if I had that technology when I was a teen you better believe I would have been using it.

They text in class, we passed notes in class. What is the difference? They play games on their apps, we played tic tac toe or doodled in class. What is the difference?

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

There is nothing wrong with this generation.

[thumb2] up for a "Who" reference...well done! :clap:
 

Midway Cat

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Tell me GTown; why is it that my old guys show up for work everyday and for the ones under 30, its a crap shot if they show or not.
Why is it the younger ones come to me on Monday and Tuesdays needing an advance?

Your entire post was just an opinion based on your own anecdotal experience. Mine was about reality as it actually exists for everyone, not just you.

I will say this, though--There are plenty of great, hard working people in every generation. You might well fit into that category. I know how many hours I work, and I'd feel sorry for you if you come anywhere close. Regardless, my comments were just as much an overgeneralization as the original post in this thread. For that, I apologize.

I'm just tired of seeing the demonization of young people by older generations who refuse to acknowledge their own privilege and how different the world is now than it was when they were younger.
 
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ScrewDuke1

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I'm a millennial and my generation is horrible. However, that's not why the team is bad. We've won a title with millennials recently.
 

uky8unc5

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I'm an Old Fart. I am offended for Millennials by the OP's unfounded insulting suggestion.
 

morgousky

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Man to be truthful, and I'm in between generation X and "millennials" I guess, this younger generation is kid of sucks. If you don't believe that, try hanging out at a high school sometime soon and ask yourself if you were allowed to pull half of the BS they are. Lots of out of control youth today.

Anecdotal sure, good thing that term is not mutually exclusive with the truth.
 

JC for 3

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Again.... not trying to insult anyone or start trouble. In hindsight, yes, maybe it was a bit of an over-generalization. The mystery remains.... these guys are so quick, fast and athletic, yet playing defense is a monumental challenge for them. Maybe their mindset is 'we'll just outscore you". Great, but when the shots aren't falling, then what?