How many small schools are located in large cities that aren't charters?
a league wide notice
- Thread starter corviancardinallover
- Start date
yall seem like the emotional ones lol. we’re chilling in our private jets and luxury boats on lake norman going house to house across all of nc asking kids to come to corvian community school.
Community School of Davidson, Lake Norman Charter, Mountain Island Charter, Bradford Preparatory, Queen’s Grant, Sugar Creek Charter, Bonnie Cone Leadership Academy, Lincoln Charter, Langtree Charter, Pine Lake Prep, Union Academy. sure i’m forgetting a couple others too
was just thinking charlotte area charters but there’s plenty of other charters for them to whine about
We have plenty of them in 1A also not going to complain about it theirs nothing we can do that's up to the higher up people. Just play the games and see how they play out.
I agree we have so many portal transfers in our area public schools it doesn't matter.
take a look at hough lol. that’s what you call recruiting.
Do you think Grimsley got good over night with their players. Our local school would not be as competitive without some transfers. It happens. South Stokes basketball coach was upset when they got beat by Queens Grant. South Stokes has taken transfers from West Forsyth and few players that's supposed to be at West Stokes. If you have good coaching players will come. Corvian has good coaching.
Since you brought it up lets talk about it. Charter schools, should never recieve public funds.obviously a charter school in charlotte would have different boundaries, however, Corvian can’t accept everyone who applies, and it can’t select students based on athletic ability. take your problem about the boundary stuff up with the state, not corvian. we control what we can control and follow all of our rules. once again, if you think we get all this talent for all these big name charlotte programs, we don’t. no new seniors, juniors, sophomores on this team and there were no new seniors in the class of 26. we have ONE player on our entire roster who played varsity football on a 7a/8a team.
i can’t speak on queens grant’s behalf but if those kids went through the same admissions process as everyone else, they’re doing nothing against the rulesyou can’t accuse a school of recruiting just because they have talented athletes and have success.
Your argument raises several important questions about North Carolina's public education system: funding fairness, accountability, admissions practices, transportation access, athletic recruiting, and student outcomes.
To make the case effectively, I would separate the concerns into documented facts, questions that deserve investigation, and policy recommendations. That would let you make a strong argument for traditional public schools without relying on allegations that may be difficult to prove.
The central issue is whether North Carolina's charter school system provides equal access and demonstrates comparable accountability when charter schools receive public funding but operate differently from traditional public schools.
What the available evidence shows
1. Public funding and accountability
North Carolina charter schools are public schools funded primarily by state and local tax dollars. They have greater operational flexibility than traditional district schools, but they are still subject to state assessments, school performance grades, and financial and operational oversight.
NC DPI+2
That distinction gives you a specific policy argument: Should schools receiving public money be required to meet more consistent standards for transparency, student access, transportation, and accountability?
2. Admissions lotteries and athletic recruiting
State law requires charter schools to conduct lotteries when applications exceed available seats, and prohibits discrimination in admissions.
NC DPI+1
However, an allegation that athletic recruits are receiving preferential admission would need school-specific evidence. A meaningful investigation could examine:
- Lottery procedures, enrollment records, and whether documented exceptions complied with state law.
- Athletic rosters compared with enrollment dates and available admissions records.
- Whether students or families received recruitment assistance that was not available to other applicants.
- Whether enrollment priorities were applied consistently and lawfully.
This approach turns a concern about fairness into questions that can be investigated rather than assuming every lottery is manipulated.
3. Transportation and socioeconomic segregation
This is one of the most measurable concerns in your argument.
A 2025 report from Public Schools First NC, using 2022–23 data, found that approximately 58% of North Carolina charter schools provided busing, while others used limited alternatives. It also reported that 37.88% of charter school students were classified as economically disadvantaged, compared with 50.73% of students in traditional school districts.
publicschoolsfirstnc.org
Those figures support examining whether transportation arrangements create barriers for low-income families. They do not, by themselves, prove intentional segregation, but they raise a legitimate question about whether school choice is equally accessible to students whose families cannot provide daily transportation.
4. School report cards, testing, and graduation rates
North Carolina publishes school report cards for both charter and traditional public schools. These include achievement, academic growth, student characteristics, and other indicators.
NC DPI+1
For the 2024–25 school year, the state reported that 26.6% of charter schools with eligible performance grades earned an A or B, while 31.5% earned a D or F. In 2023–24, those figures were 26.6% and 31.5%, respectively; the 2024–25 figures were 30.1% and 29.1%.
North Carolina General Assembly+1
These numbers show why the full picture matters. Performance grades alone do not establish that charter schools as a whole are succeeding or failing. A sound comparison should include:
- Reading, mathematics, and science proficiency.
- Academic growth, not just proficiency levels.
- Four-year graduation rates.
- College and career readiness.
- Student poverty levels and special education populations.
- Enrollment changes, student transfers, and outcomes across multiple years.
The state makes these comparisons possible through its School Report Cards and Accountability Dashboards.
NC DPI+1
A stronger policy position
Rather than making the argument solely that charter schools should never receive public dollars, you could frame the debate around whether public funding should be conditional on demonstrable public benefit.
A policy proposal could call for:
1. Consistent accountability: comparable public reporting of achievement, growth, graduation, finances, and student demographics.
2. Transparent admissions: independently auditable lottery procedures and clear disclosure of enrollment priorities.
3. Athletic recruiting oversight: investigation of credible complaints about admissions advantages or improper recruiting.
4. Equitable transportation: enforceable transportation-access standards so that family income and access to a vehicle do not determine who can attend.
5. Outcome-based funding review: regular analysis of academic results, student populations, and public costs across charter and district schools.
The next step is to examine the actual numbers school by school. Comparing charter high schools with traditional public high schools across testing, graduation rates, student demographics, and transportation availability would establish where disparities exist and how substantial they are.
That would give you a concrete basis for arguing that North Carolina needs to reconsider how it funds and regulates charter schools.
well, charter schools aren’t private schools receiving taxpayer money. They’re public schools, and the families attending them pay taxes just like everyone else. They’re also subject to state testing, financial oversight, and admissions laws. i just said that because nobody mentioned anything relating to public funding.
Do you understand the definition of public? I would be more than happy to explain how a charter is not public. And further more their harvesting to athletic students, is some cases right across the road.
north carolina law explicitly classifies charter schools as public schools. that is not an opinion. students choosing to come to a school does not equal recruiting.
| 2026 | 8–1 | 6–0 | Season in progress (Currently Ranked #2 in State 2A) |
| 2025 | 10–2 | 6–0 | NCHSAA 1A State Playoffs (Reached 2nd Round) |
| 2024 | 15–1 | 7–0 | NCHSAA 1A State Runner-Up (Lost state final to Tarboro) |
| 2023 | 6–6 | 3–4 | NCHSAA 1A State Playoffs (Inaugural Varsity Season) |
yes so tell me again how there chose, and they might because charter schools do not hold them to same accountability. Charter lottery's are funny, especially how an athlete can always win, I know because my son was recruited to play at one and they stated they held special spots for the athletes.
welp corvian follows rules and doesn’t recruit, that’s crazy about your son tho. if corvian could recruit then im sure we would have more than 1 player who has played varsity football on a 7a/8a school.
Also, do you say that charter students are held to same accountability is pubic schools?
charters schools are set to follow the same rules public schools do. corvian follows rules, can’t speak on others behalves.
That is 100% not true. There are many different items that charters can get away with that public schools cannot, so using a blanket statement like that is not correct. For instance, charters don't have to use the NC standard course of study, not all teachers at charters have to be licensed, charters have the ability to set their own calendar start/end dates where public schools have to follow certain calendar laws, etc.
There are a ton of differences between charters and a true public school. I have many of friends on both sides (both in admin and teachers) and have spent countless hours in both types of schools, so if you think they are the same you are beyond delusional about it. I think both school systems have their advantages and disadvantages, but lets be real and honest and admit they are not the same.
Edit: Just to add, I'm not tied or loyal to either school system in any administrative way, as I said, both can have their advantages. I just have a flexible job that allows me to come mentor, tutor and help educate kids in the STEM fields.
Is that how they turned it around at South Stokes? I've wondered that for years.
I do not call you a lier, but sir you are wrong, they do not have to follow same testing requirements, they do have same hour requirements, they teachers do not have to be certified at the same rates and I can continue
Its all part of school, there for you do agree that the students that play at your site are not held to same standards and your athletes are treated better. So you just showed the real color.
You do realize that athletic rules change per district? Some districts are county wide and can enroll anyone in that county, others you have to have a legal move, some you can't transfer and play right away, etc. Again, clueless on what you are talking about, my guy.
well you brought up nothing relating to athletics which is who i said that. with those things that you listed, obviously there is a distinction between charters and regular public’s. with that being said, that changes nothing relating to corvian following rules. call me clueless all you want but we will let the gridiron results talk. don’t hate the player hate the game
Multiple times you have said “don’t hate the player hate the game”. If you understand that is exactly what most are doing. Not necessarily blaming you or the cards but the system that is place. Your school just happens to be the one this year.
I or most here harbor no ill will towards you your coaches, or your players. I expect that most if not all are outstanding young men. I hope that each and everyone of them that has a desire to play at the next level gets a chance.
It is just a broken system that no one on this board can fix or control. Doesn’t mean we don’t like to complain about it though. Lol. This has been geared towards MIC, Wilson Prep, Bishop McGuiness (whole other issues there) and many others depending on year and sport. So just sit back and enjoy the ride until probably Tarboro comes calling then pull those straps one more time and get it on.
Now hopefully Mitchell can win tonight and I can get some sleep so I can go pester woodland creatures tomorrow morning.
Go Mountaineers
I or most here harbor no ill will towards you your coaches, or your players. I expect that most if not all are outstanding young men. I hope that each and everyone of them that has a desire to play at the next level gets a chance.
It is just a broken system that no one on this board can fix or control. Doesn’t mean we don’t like to complain about it though. Lol. This has been geared towards MIC, Wilson Prep, Bishop McGuiness (whole other issues there) and many others depending on year and sport. So just sit back and enjoy the ride until probably Tarboro comes calling then pull those straps one more time and get it on.
Now hopefully Mitchell can win tonight and I can get some sleep so I can go pester woodland creatures tomorrow morning.
Go Mountaineers
