With the new "success initiative".. I "THINK" we get the lions share of the money, BUT... baseball is non revenue- so I doubt we get a lot even if we did make Omaha.Do we get any more money if more ACC teams would've made it to Omaha, or, is the money just going to the school that makes it there?
Baseball still has a good amount of parity - not sure that’s what’s happening here. Legitimately just bad injury luck for a handful of acc teams and an all time collapse (mediocre pitching hiding behind a flashy offense) by GT. We are just two years removed from the ACC having four teams in Omaha.If we are honest and objective it is happening across all the major men’s sports - ACC is suffering “ death by a thousand cuts” - the P2 are pounding the rest of college sports into submission with the help of FOX and ESPN- have yet to see one thing on ESPN college baseball scroll about UNC - all SEC , which they have no doubt earned but there are others
It might seem that way if you believe the world only started in 2026 and ignore last year and the year before.The SEC is playing a different sport than the ACC is, in all 3 sports honestly. They've left the ACC in the dust.
Forget 2026 even. The SEC has won the NCAA tournament in baseball in 2025 (LSU), 2024 (Tennessee), 2023 (LSU), 2022 (Ole Miss), 2021 (Mississippi State), (2020 was canceled due to COVID), and 2019 (Vandy). ACC has won 1 national championship in like the last 70+ years.It might seem that way if you believe the world only started in 2026 and ignore last year and the year before.
Tbf, it would have been really hard for like 5 of those to lose their regional. Auburn, Miss St, Texas, Bama, and UGA all had really easy regionals
I’m not going to defend the ACCs performance, i’m just putting it in context that a lot of those SEC teams had cakewalksSo did Georgia Tech and Florida State (once Coastal was out) yet they found ways to lose.
One of the reason those regionals seemed easy is because once you get past the SEC host teams themselves, plus about 3 ACC teams who also hosted (UNC, GT, FSU) and 3 Big Ten teams who hosted (UCLA, Nebraska Oregon), there just aren't that many good teams left in the country who sound that scary when judging the strength of a regional. Generally, the toughest draws in the country for host teams are SEC teams who come in as 2/3 seeds. That's a beast UNC often has to worry about (see LSU, Oklahoma, Tennessee the last three years), whereas for the SEC hosts, they can't draw SEC 2/3 seeds since there can't be but 1 SEC team in a given regional.Tbf, it would have been really hard for like 5 of those to lose their regional. Auburn, Miss St, Texas, Bama, and UGA all had really easy regionals
yesaTm and the Gators getting blasted by teams out the losers bracket and UK and OU playing the way they did was very surprising to me but again anyone in the tournament can get hot so all you gotta get is a shot.
Even including this horrible year, the ACC has placed 10 teams in the CWS of 24 total the last three years.Forget 2026 even. The SEC has won the NCAA tournament in baseball in 2025 (LSU), 2024 (Tennessee), 2023 (LSU), 2022 (Ole Miss), 2021 (Mississippi State), (2020 was canceled due to COVID), and 2019 (Vandy). ACC has won 1 national championship in like the last 70+ years.
And with each passing year, the gap between the SEC and Big Ten and everybody else is widening. Less so with the Big Ten in baseball because the Big Ten schools stink at baseball from a geographic standpoint (there is not good baseball in the Midwest), but the ACC can't keep up with the SEC and Big Ten overall.
It's vitally important for UNC to get to the SEC as soon as possible if we want to compete for championships. As someone said above, "first train smoking"
One of the reason those regionals seemed easy is because once you get past the SEC host teams themselves, plus about 3 ACC teams who also hosted (UNC, GT, FSU) and 3 Big Ten teams who hosted (UCLA, Nebraska Oregon), there just aren't that many good teams left in the country who sound that scary when judging the strength of a regional. Generally, the toughest draws in the country for host teams are SEC teams who come in as 2/3 seeds. That's a beast UNC often has to worry about (see LSU, Oklahoma, Tennessee the last three years), whereas for the SEC hosts, they can't draw SEC 2/3 seeds since there can't be but 1 SEC team in a given regional.
So instead....
Auburn draws NC State and UCF
Miss State draws Cincinnati and Louisiana
Texas draws UCSB and Tarleton State
Bama draws Oklahoma State and USC Upstate
UGA draws Boston College and Liberty
All of those teams seem weak compared to SEC 2/3 seeds, because, well, they are. None of those teams mentioned above are as good as Arkansas, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Kentucky, etc. who were 2/3 seeds from the SEC that struck some fear into the host schools in other regionals.
My point is, you're right that those regionals you listed were easy, and generally the reason the regionals were easy is because the host school was the only SEC team in the regional. Whereas in all the perceived "difficult" regionals, it's because you had a non-SEC host school (someone who is good!) plus an SEC 2/3 seed who is a hell of a lot stronger than NC State or Liberty or whoever else.
But they shared it emotionally with Mississippi State.Don’t forget that State got robbed of a Natty the year they got Covid. At least that is what they tell me.
There's no doubt the ACC has been the second best baseball conference for a long time. That could be shifting soon with some good west coast schools now in the Big Ten, but for now I'm still fine if people want to say the ACC has a grasp on being the second best baseball conference. I think that's the consensus and I would agree.Even including this horrible year, the ACC has placed 10 teams in the CWS of 24 total the last three years.
Look, I am not arguing that the SEC isn’t better or that the ACC is equal, but the statement that the SEC is playing an entirely different game is farcical.
I guess this opinion boils down to your interpretation of the word "close."But it's not close between the ACC and the SEC in baseball.
That's right. If you fill the field with your horses--in a game like baseball--one of them is far more likely to win. That is a fact well known by the SEC, as well by its "Little Brother," the NCAA Committee.They also had 5 lose. And Auburn and Oklahoma were very fortunate.
And you won't see anything about Carolina on ESPN--unless we win the whole enchilada.If we are honest and objective it is happening across all the major men’s sports - ACC is suffering “ death by a thousand cuts” - the P2 are pounding the rest of college sports into submission with the help of FOX and ESPN- have yet to see one thing on ESPN college baseball scroll about UNC - all SEC , which they have no doubt earned but there are others
If you keep stacking the deck, you're going to win more often than not.Forget 2026 even. The SEC has won the NCAA tournament in baseball in 2025 (LSU), 2024 (Tennessee), 2023 (LSU), 2022 (Ole Miss), 2021 (Mississippi State), (2020 was canceled due to COVID), and 2019 (Vandy). ACC has won 1 national championship in like the last 70+ years.
And with each passing year, the gap between the SEC and Big Ten and everybody else is widening. Less so with the Big Ten in baseball because the Big Ten schools stink at baseball from a geographic standpoint (there is not good baseball in the Midwest), but the ACC can't keep up with the SEC and Big Ten overall.
It's vitally important for UNC to get to the SEC as soon as possible if we want to compete for championships. As someone said above, "first train smoking"
there are no “units” in baseballDo we get any more money if more ACC teams would've made it to Omaha, or, is the money just going to the school that makes it there?
FSU lost, IMO, because the 'Noles held Mendez out of Game 1 to face CCU's best pitcher. That would not have happened if the NCAA's declared preference for "regional proximity" had actually applied to SEC teams.So did Georgia Tech and Florida State (once Coastal was out) yet they found ways to lose.
It's not set up like men's basketball. UNC didn't report any NCAA distributions for baseball in 2023-24, which was the last time the team reached Omaha. The CWS is a revenue engine for Omaha, but there's not much else that filters down to the membership.Do we get any more money if more ACC teams would've made it to Omaha, or, is the money just going to the school that makes it there?
The success initiative is built around football and men's basketball, with football being king. For example, the viewership initiative is structured as 75% football and 25% men's basketball.With the new "success initiative".. I "THINK" we get the lions share of the money, BUT... baseball is non revenue- so I doubt we get a lot even if we did make Omaha.
Coastal should not have been the #2 in Athens. You love to spout these conspiracy theories but you don't seem to understand the way the bracketing principles worked this year. It's not primarily based on regional proximity.FSU lost, IMO, because the 'Noles held Mendez out of Game 1 to face CCU's best pitcher. That would not have happened if the NCAA's declared preference for "regional proximity" had actually applied to SEC teams.
Coastal should have been the #2 in Athens. But that would have presented the same problem for UGa that FSU failed to solve. And the "Committee" just could not abide that.
The way that the "Committee" fills the seeded sites is an unvarnished crock--plain and simple--and I have never seen anyone effectively defend it.
yeah my emphasis was on "think" because I did not know... But the more salient point was that... being baseball... the revenue will so menial that it wouldn't amount to much of anything.The success initiative is built around football and men's basketball, with football being king. For example, the viewership initiative is structured as 75% football and 25% men's basketball.
FSU lost, IMO, because the 'Noles held Mendez out of Game 1 to face CCU's best pitcher. That would not have happened if the NCAA's declared preference for "regional proximity" had actually applied to SEC teams.
Coastal should have been the #2 in Athens. But that would have presented the same problem for UGa that FSU failed to solve. And the "Committee" just could not abide that.
The way that the "Committee" fills the seeded sites is an unvarnished crock--plain and simple--and I have never seen anyone effectively defend it.
My understanding is that it’s school specific. The NCAA cuts checks to schools for total distribution of all revenue share and the schools parse it out from there.yeah my emphasis was on "think" because I did not know... But the more salient point was that... being baseball... the revenue will so menial that it wouldn't amount to much of anything.
It would be interesting to find out... when Non revenue sports teams do create "revenue"... how is it divvied? Key word being "revenue".. not Profit. Because there isn't any profit for any sports besides the 2 you named above.