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California dreaming.................wake up!!!!!!

McIllece Sports ranked second last year in a long list of services (including the likes of ESPN, Sporting News, Sports illustrated, Lindy, Athlon, Phil Steele...ect) predicting standings. Over the last 3 seasons combined they rank third.

This season they have us at preseason 14 as a second place finisher in the Big 12.

Do I agree?? Doesn't really matter....just pointing out that respectable sources outside this forum are showing praise for WVU (so it's not a dream).

....by the way... ....of the services/magazines that so far reported WVU sits at the average spot of 31. Not bad and certainly not far from the top 25.
 

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Would be nice if we were a "fringe Top 25" team this year...but I guess that means the program has fallen to a point where being close to being at least so-so can be celebrated.
 

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Would be nice if we were a "fringe Top 25" team this year...but I guess that means the program has fallen to a point where being close to being at least so-so can be celebrated.

I agree 'fringe Top 25' or even top 25 isn't exactly worth a celebration but flirting with great seasons (top 10-15) increases the exposure of the program and certainly shows that our ultimate goal is within reach rather than being a complete 'California dream' (whatever that is...).
 

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McIllece Sports ranked second last year in a long list of services (including the likes of ESPN, Sporting News, Sports illustrated, Lindy, Athlon, Phil Steele...ect) predicting standings. Over the last 3 seasons combined they rank third.

This season they have us at preseason 14 as a second place finisher in the Big 12.

Do I agree?? Doesn't really matter....just pointing out that respectable sources outside this forum are showing praise for WVU (so it's not a dream).

....by the way... ....of the services/magazines that so far reported WVU sits at the average spot of 31. Not bad and certainly not far from the top 25.



Cute story!!! WVU predicted 58th in the country in another ranking. Hey quick question for ya. What was WVU end year ranking the last couple of years? Hmmm when you're done thinking about that one tell my why WVU would be respected this year. I'm hoping WVU surprises but please don't talk about the team this year like they deserve top 25 or even close.
 

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Cute story!!! WVU predicted 58th in the country in another ranking. Hey quick question for ya. What was WVU end year ranking the last couple of years? Hmmm when you're done thinking about that one tell my why WVU would be respected this year. I'm hoping WVU surprises but please don't talk about the team this year like they deserve top 25 or even close.

I made it clear that my opinion didn't matter (just like yours doesn't) regarding rankings.... ...just that people/services/magazines who rank teams for a living have a diff opinion than you/us.

I also gave a respected source who has been more accurate than some of the most referred sources on this topic. You want to hang your hat on the Orlando Sentinel... ...have at it.
 
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Orlaco

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...and your little comment, "cute story" just makes your entire reply less respectful and certainly makes readers know that you're whole post is about being a di@# and a lot less about expressing a valid opinion.
 

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I made it clear that my opinion didn't matter (just like yours doesn't) regarding rankings.... ...just that people/services/magazines who rank teams for a living have a diff opinion than you/us.

I also gave a respected source who has been more accurate than some of the most the most referred sources on this topic. You want to hang your hat on the Orlando Sentinel... ...have at it.



Trying to establish more credibility from one ranking service versus another is silly. "I have a respected source" is also comical.
 

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Trying to establish more credibility from one ranking service versus another is silly. "I have a respected source" is also comical.

I actually gave an average rank of several 'respected' sources. ...and it's from a site that ranks each 'service' from the early 90's. They keep track of preseason predictions compared to the final polls.

Funny... ...the Orlando Sentinel didn't make their long list of rankings to follow. ...and they update them often.

The diff between us... ...I'm open to multiple sources.... ....and you're sprinting backward saying comparing rankings is suddenly silly.
 

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I actually gave an average rank of several 'respected' sources. ...and it's from a site that ranks each 'service' from the early 90's. They keep track of preseason predictions compared to the final polls.

Funny... ...the Orlando Sentinel didn't make their long list of rankings to follow. ...and they update them often.

The diff between us... ...I'm open to multiple sources.... ....and you're sprinting backward saying comparing rankings is suddenly silly.



There's much more different about the two of us than what you said. WVU deserves no top 25 respect until 5 or 6 games into the season. Any service or person that thinks otherwise is idiotic.
 

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There's much more different about the two of us than what you said. WVU deserves no top 25 respect until 5 or 6 games into the season. Any service or person that thinks otherwise is idiotic.

Intelligent and well thought out post.
 

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...and your little comment, "cute story" just makes your entire reply less respectful and certainly makes readers know that you're whole post is about being a di@# and a lot less about expressing a valid opinion.



Typical emotional response. You didn't answer my questions. One more crack. What was the end year ranking of WVU the last couple of years? And why would anyone put WVU in the top 25? You feel like going all the way back and engaging or just want to be emotionally attached to joke preseason ranking?
 

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Typical emotional response. You didn't answer my questions. One more crack. What was the end year ranking of WVU the last couple of years? And why would anyone put WVU in the top 25? You feel like going all the way back and engaging or just want to be emotionally attached to joke preseason ranking?

I don't answer your silly questions because you think they guide the conversation in the direction you prefer.

I wasn't debating why WVU 'should be in' or near the Top 25... ...simply pointing out that respected publications are putting us there (I also made it clear I may not agree). Are those publications 'emotionally attached' ?

Funny how you were lusting all over the Orlando sentinel's ranking... ...and after I provide other sources it's all about what you think and how 'silly' preseason rankings can be...
 
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I don't answer your silly questions because you think they guide the conversation in the direction you prefer.

I wasn't debating why WVU 'should be in' or near the Top 25... ...simply pointing out that respected publications are putting us there (I also made it clear I may not agree). Are those publications 'emotionally attached' ?

Funny how you were lusting all over the Orlando sentinel's ranking... ...and after I provide other sources it's all about what you think and how 'silly' preseason rankings can be...



Simply pointed that out sweetheart? Wow! Earth shattering! So you literally had no point? Great addition to the thread you are. Listen I get that you are way smarter than I am. I also get that you are way more successful in life that I am. What I don't get is why people like you spend so much time trying to be smarter than other people and really bring nothing to the table in these threads.
 

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WVU needs some traction going into next season. A Top 25 team this season with Greer starting next season would make WVU relevant again.

Hopefully fighting for his job will drive Dana to get everything he can from this team.
 
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Typical emotional response. You didn't answer my questions. One more crack. What was the end year ranking of WVU the last couple of years? And why would anyone put WVU in the top 25? You feel like going all the way back and engaging or just want to be emotionally attached to joke preseason ranking?

Just wondering where you would rank wvu preseason? Im not surprised that there not a preseason top 25 team nor was I expecting it but to say there 58th is a bit off the mark if you ask me. There are 64 power 5 teams and at 58th that would place them near the bottom of the power 5. I would say the team is probably at least average by power 5 standards.
 

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Just wondering where you would rank wvu preseason? Im not surprised that there not a preseason top 25 team nor was I expecting it but to say there 58th is a bit off the mark if you ask me. There are 64 power 5 teams and at 58th that would place them near the bottom of the power 5. I would say the team is probably at least average by power 5 standards.



Based on where WVU has been the last couple of years maybe 40-44 to start with. Check back in around week 5 or 6 and if performance is good with no losses or at most one that wasn't horrific I would think 20-25 ranking wouldn't be a reach.
 

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Simply pointed that out sweetheart? Wow! Earth shattering! So you literally had no point? Great addition to the thread you are. Listen I get that you are way smarter than I am. I also get that you are way more successful in life that I am. What I don't get is why people like you spend so much time trying to be smarter than other people and really bring nothing to the table in these threads.

I made several good points that you just wrote were beyond your ability to counter because of the level of your intelligence.

Let me dumb it down for you.

Many people/companies who make a living (aka professionals) predicting college football have a diff opinion than you (again, maybe diff than mine too). You're welcome to an opinion... ..but mocking others with comments like, 'California dreaming... ...wake up ' while their opinions are very sound (matching many pro's) is silly and makes you look foolish.

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'Sweetheart' ? Even your attempts at sexist insults miss the mark.
 

Pitt4Life34

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I made several good points that you just wrote were beyond your ability to counter because of the level of your intelligence.

Let me dumb it down for you.

Many people/companies who make a living (aka professionals) predicting college football have a diff opinion than you (again, maybe diff than mine too). You're welcome to an opinion... ..but mocking others with comments like, 'California dreaming... ...wake up ' while their opinions are very sound (matching many pro's) is silly and makes you look foolish.

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'Sweetheart' ? Even your attempts at sexist insults miss the mark.



I don't like you dumb sweetheart. My opinion was anyone, and everyone, that consider WVU a top 25 team in America is "California Dreaming". And......I mock those who think WVU belongs as a preseason top 25 team. BTW what periodicals have WVU as a preseason top 25 team again?
 

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California dreaming.................wake up!!!!!!
Lol ACC. Lol Pitt football the last 10 years compared to WVU. Big>ACC WVU 7 players drafted last draft. Pitt 1. ACC members crawling on their knees for Notre Dame. Don't even get me started on Basketball. Oh hell lol Pitt basketball program anyways. Lol at Pitt attendance. Lol at Pitt AD. Lol at Pitt losing to Navy. Lol Jamie Dixon left Pitt for TCU, Basketball! Lol at their guy saying WVU fans are California Dreaming
 

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If I were you I would demand change at Pitt! Until they get good you should boycott being a fan. Save yourself the embarrassment.
 

Pitt4Life34

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Lol ACC. Lol Pitt football the last 10 years compared to WVU. Big>ACC WVU 7 players drafted last draft. Pitt 1. ACC members crawling on their knees for Notre Dame. Don't even get me started on Basketball. Oh hell lol Pitt basketball program anyways. Lol at Pitt attendance. Lol at Pitt AD. Lol at Pitt losing to Navy. Lol Jamie Dixon left Pitt for TCU, Basketball! Lol at their guy saying WVU fans are California Dreaming



Keep it in context you emotional goof. I go to more WVU football games than you and most of this site. I was talking about a preseason top 25 ranking this year moron. What does Pitt football and/or basketball have anything to do with what I said. Get your head out of your A and get back into the game.