5,123 days

WhiteBus

Heisman
Oct 4, 2011
39,516
21,918
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You're going around and around in your desperation to defend your hero. I stated that the drought started with him. It did. Since you can't deny it you try to split hairs over what "3 years in a row means" and bring up earlier victories over ranked teams and childishly say "you hate him" as if you have any idea how I feel about a person I've never met. You're changing the focus so you can avoid the original point. Quit while you're behind.
No you are way behind as you ignore the facts. You ignore he was the last guy to get a win over a top 25 team. You ignore the fact that Flood and Ash had none. You ignore the fact he did have one in 2009 but still claim he didn't as you constantly saying he went through 2009 as a whole year without a top 25 win. The facts say your a complete idiot because you ignore them .
Fact. The last HC with a top 25 win was Greg Schiano. Also a fact you hate him.
 

NickRU714

Heisman
Aug 18, 2009
14,065
12,872
113
Yes. Let's say Rutgers is playing a top 20 team. Rutgers wins and that team falls out of the top 25. Rutgers beats a top 20 team but gets no credit because they beat them and are the team that knocks them out.

Is that team back in the Top 20 by the end of the season?
Don't care if they fall out after losing to Rutgers. How the team plays overall all season should be the indicator not some weird interim ranking.

It's just a dumb way to measure things.
I'd much rather beat an "unranked" team who ended the season ranked (which means they were good and beat most other teams) than best a #2 USF who ended the season unranked because they weren't that good and lost to a bunch of other teams.
 

NickRU714

Heisman
Aug 18, 2009
14,065
12,872
113
Simple:
What was a better win?

2006 #7 Louisville (who ended the season #6 12-1 with only loss to Rutgers)

or

2007 #2 USF (who ended the season 9-4, unranked, and losses to UConn Cincy and Oregon)
 
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Mufasa94

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Jan 9, 2009
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Beating a ranked team is always about the ranking at the time of the game.
Always is a pretty definitive word.
The flip side would be having to go back and adjust every teams opponents record if they made or dropped out of the rankings.
It’s not difficult to add things up at the end. On the flip side to the at the time, why should one team get credit for beating an overrated at the time #2 team while another team only gets credit for beating a #23 team when they both beat the same team?

Should tOSU keep getting credit for a top 5 win throughout this season?
 

DHajekRC84

Heisman
Aug 9, 2001
30,709
19,818
0
The ugly details by year,
2022 0-1, 10-49
2021 0-4, 49-141(#19UM13-20)
2020 0-2, 48-86
2019 0-5, 34-207
2018 0-3, 17-115
2017 0-4, 27-161
2016 0-4, 13-223
2015 0-3, 47-129(#4MSU24-31)
2014 0-3, 44-143
2013 0-3, 43-94
2012 0-0, no ranked opponents
2011 0-1, 31-41(WVU)
2010 0-1, 14-35(WVU)
2009 0-1 , 21-24(WVU)
Total 0-35, 398-1448, (11.4-41.4)
Nov 12 2009, Rutgers beat a ranked 23/24 USF team 31-0, 4,740 days
The Pitt game is 5,123 days
Sshhhhh. Facts not allowed when they expose the truth. Now we've played mostly highly ranked teams In this division..but we got nothing.
Blind squirrel still looking for that nut.
 

AZBlues

All-Conference
Sep 29, 2013
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You're going around and around in your desperation to defend your hero. I stated that the drought started with him. It did.
I guess you're right.. And not to change the subject, but who was the coach that finally ended the previous drought that I think started after we beat Penn State on September 24, 1988, and lasted until 10/06/2006 when we beat Louisville?... Whoever it was deserves some major props though. That was a drought of 6,588 days, more than 18 years.
 
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newell138

Heisman
Aug 1, 2001
36,943
47,388
112
Program has stunk for over a decade. And stinks now.

If Schiano doesn't get it done, hopefully we get a coach that can at least score a bunch of points even if we lose. At least it will be something to be interested in.
Technically we’ve not been relevant for about 97-98% of our programs lifetime, so no one should be surprised
 

RU#1fan

Heisman
Mar 7, 2003
23,575
12,280
113
Once again which is why Schiano was a bad hire. He’s playing tennis with a wooden racquet. It’s how he’s wired and it’s a losing formula.
If we are sitting at 4-8 next season then it’s lights out for Greg.
Beating out Temple and Yukon for recruits is never going to cut in the B1G.
 

Shelby65

All-Conference
Apr 1, 2008
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Yep. Someone asked why were weren't throwing down 14.

It's the old mindset of defense, punting, and field position win games. Schiano ball won't typically work unless you build a lead to employ those tactics.

And even then it's going to be tough.

Offense wins games. Schiano can't embrace that which is why he's never likely to win here again.
I don't know why you two are putting this all on Schiano. This drought started with Flood. An offensive minded HC.
Actually, Flood has no mind at all. He was a no-minded HC. I wouldn’t bet on him knowing how to tie shoelaces. For all the Greg bashing I do, I do not think he’s an idiot. Flood on the other hand…
 

drewbagel423

All-Conference
Oct 30, 2006
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2,102
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Last win was Nov. 12, 2009 against No. 24 South Florida. The Scarlet Knights are 0-20 against ranked opponents since that victory.


I still can't believe Schiano had a freshman AA QB in the program and let him get away. What could have been...
 

DJ Spanky

Heisman
Jul 25, 2001
48,248
59,160
113
I still can't believe Schiano had a freshman AA QB in the program and let him get away. What could have been...

I don't think a lot of that was on Schiano.

And you're correct. Savage got himself a girlfriend who took all his time and got him to do some things he shouldn't have. He was lucky to be the starter at the beginning of the season. And when he lost the position he was like a little storm cloud on the sidelines. She followed him out to Arizona, but they eventually broke up. He realized he made a mistake, wanted to come back, but the NCAA wouldn't let him.
 

mildone_rivals

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Dec 19, 2011
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brgRC90

Heisman
Apr 8, 2008
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And you're correct. Savage got himself a girlfriend who took all his time and got him to do some things he shouldn't have. He was lucky to be the starter at the beginning of the season. And when he lost the position he was like a little storm cloud on the sidelines. She followed him out to Arizona, but they eventually broke up. He realized he made a mistake, wanted to come back, but the NCAA wouldn't let him.
During the Quarantine I worked out at a small gym in West LA run by a guy who played for Missouri and coached at the college level and he said a lot of guys don't take it seriously. Getting them to come to practice is not always easy. We can't know in any given case who is to blame for 4 and 5-star guys flaming out but in some, maybe most, cases it's definitely the guys themselves and not the coaches who are to blame.