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Likely is an intelligent response.
Guaranteed shows no life experience - every event is either the best or worst suffered.
Guaranteed shows no life experience - every event is either the best or worst suffered.
I'm not trolling you. Penn State's roster is immensely more talented than Rutgers. PSU will be at least a 3-TD favorite. A loss would be one of the worst in Penn State football history.
We ain't going to pull a Gary Nova 4 or 5 INT special that game. Look out!!!
BIG did their homework, adding us and Maryland gave them a huge windfall.
Could you imagine how much money a strong Rutgers program would get them? We get our football and basketball programs turned around and the sky is the limit.
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Texas made more money than any other football program in CFB last year... and they been stinking it up for years.
Rutgers been making our fellow Big Ten schools TONs of money since joining. and 5 wins this year would be seen as HUGE by most people across the US.
If Rutgers ever gits gud... look out!
Rutgers been making our fellow Big Ten schools TONs of money since joining. and 5 wins this year would be seen as HUGE by most people across the US.
If Rutgers ever gits gud... look out!
Never say Never https://mobile.nytimes.com/1988/09/11/sports/college-football-midwest-rutgers-upsets-mich-st.html
17 point underdog if my memory is correct.
No life experience lol. Been experiencing Rutgers football since 1987. I’ve been through plenty with this program.
rhetorical question but I’ll play along. IF we lose all 4 it becomes history. If we were to replay those games again it still would not be guaranteed to happen a second time.
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So in other words, if we lose it doesn’t matter. But if we win one then it does. Gotcha.
Where are you getting that from? Lol. Nobody in this thread said anything close to that. All wins and losses matter. None are guaranteed until the games are played. History means they Re in the books not that they do not count. Until that time there are no guaranteed wins or losses. And I would like to add....yikes to your last post!
No offense but I would not base much off that game.Psu had a statue at qb,severe problems on the offensive line and lack of depth everywhere because of the sanctions.With all the advantages Ru still lost that game.
This Psu team is loaded with talent everywhere.Anything can happen but the odds of Ru pulling an upset are pretty slim.Psu is closing the gap between rebuilding and reloading in a hurry.
In 2016, PSU was a 26-point favorite and won by 39.
In 2017, PSU was a 31-point favorite and won by 29.
For 2018, S&P+ currently projects PSU to win by 20.8 points.
So, yea, I'd say it's pretty fair to project PSU as "at least a 3-TD favorite."
I won't argue that the Nits won't be favored by 21, but will point out the game is being played in November and will be the next to last regular season game for Rutgers.
So the spread will be based on how Rutgers played the previous 10 gamea and could be signifintly lower.
That's if RU played well up till the Nit game.
If not, no comment
Heck, if Penn St is having a disastrous season, Rutgers might be favored in that home game.
That's the type of speculation can go with
So the spread will be based on how Rutgers played the previous 10 gamea and could be signifintly lower.
That's if RU played well up till the Nit game.
If not, no comment
Heck, if Penn St is having a disastrous season, Rutgers might be favored in that home game.
That's the type of speculation can go with
I always laughed at RutgersAl but we have a good chance to go 7-1. Forget OSU, hardest game after will be Maryland away. Northwestern will not be as good as last year, at home, and riding a good, confident winning streak, it is very possible. That would be 8-1 but might just be pushing it into the RutgersAl realm. Then reality sets in. Until then, a lot of buzz and a great season.
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For perspective, using S&P+ win probabilities and assuming OSU is a loss, there is a 1.1% chance of RU starting 7-1.
Are you at all worried about the loss of your stud TE, stud RB and Moorhead? Really hoping you guys tank this year.
It might sound crazy, but not really.
Regarding the players, Gesicki was a matchup nightmare and the offense probably misses him more than Barkley, oddly enough. We have some talented guys at TE, but there are the usual question marks surrounding health and inexperience. PSU also brought in two of the top-10 tight ends in the country in the 2018 class, including 6-7 Zack Kuntz, who enrolled in January and could be a weapon in the passing game. But this season, I think you'll see PSU use more 2-back and 4-WR sets than it has recently.
Miles Sanders isn't Saquon Barkley. No one is. But he's now a junior who was the No. 1 RB in the country in his class and has shown flashes. He's a different runner than Barkley in that you're not going to see as many highlights, but he'll likely be stopped for short or no yardage fewer times given his running style, as well as another reason that cannot be overstated. This PSU OL should finally be a strength, rather than a liability.
Ultimately, despite losing a generational talent in Barkley and a handful of other players to the NFL, PSU's roster is more talented this season top to bottom. That's what recruiting does. And it certainly helps to have one of the best quarterbacks in the country.
As far as Rahne, we'll have to wait and see how he tweaks Moorhead's offense and performs as a play caller. The Fiesta Bowl was promising, but he obviously has to prove himself on a weekly basis.
I could see this team finishing anywhere from 9-3 to 12-0. With Michigan the only true road test, I'd be disappointed with anything worse than 10-2.
Appalachian State may sneak up on you.:flushed:
Losable games for PSU (does not mean PSU will lose them, but there is a decent chance of a loss)- Pitt (they always seem fired up), tOSU, MSU, Iowa, Michigan (I don't know who to root against harder-LOL), Wisconsin, and of course, Rutgers!!
Worst case scenario for you guys I guess is six losses if you guys crap the bed. If Mcsorley holds serve from last year or overperforms, 9-3 or better may well be possible.
I mean, anything is possible.
Although Pitt will again treat the game as its Super Bowl, the talent gap between the teams has only widened further. As for Iowa, playing at Kinnick is a nightmare, but that game returns to State College, where PSU beat Iowa 41-14 in 2016. Don't think Iowa has the talent to match up for four quarters without its home environment leveling the playing field.
That leaves, of course, the three big division games and Wisconsin. On paper as of July 11, I'd say PSU is a slight underdog at Michigan and against OSU, and small favorite against MSU and Wisconsin. Fortunately, three of those games are at home, where Trace McSorely has never lost.
I think PSU is good enough to win each of those games - a September WhiteOut with a new QB isn't ideal for OSU, and I'm not as high on MSU as a lot of people - but could certainly split them. That's how I arrive at 10-2 as a reasonable expectation, with room for more.
PSU is definitely talented throughout the roster. I expect them to have another good year for sure. However, if any PSU fan doesnt think the game at Heinz will not be a test you are kidding yourself. It doesn't have anything to do with Pitt thinking it is the Super Bowl as the prior post suggests. It has to do with it being a non conference week 2 game against another P5 opponent. The talent gap exists but Miami and Clemson were quite a bit more talented as well.
Just saying a knowledgeable fan of PSU would have a little anxiety heading into this game either way. Despite the arrogance. The spread is -13 right now. I would bet Pitt will cover.
RU will take time to build up the program. Start by getting talent out of Jersey. It will slowly happen. But for now will be non competitive with PSU , UM , and MSU. That doesnt matter as long as RU can consistently beat Maryland and IU.
Just saying a knowledgeable fan of PSU would have a little anxiety heading into this game either way. Despite the arrogance. The spread is -13 right now. I would bet Pitt will cover.
RU will take time to build up the program. Start by getting talent out of Jersey. It will slowly happen. But for now will be non competitive with PSU , UM , and MSU. That doesnt matter as long as RU can consistently beat Maryland and IU.
I agree. I'm not expecting PSU to stomp Pitt. But the trajectories of the programs also suggest I shouldn't be concerned with a loss.
In 2016, I was worried. Pitt was a 3.5-point favorite and barely survived, 42-39, against what was still a PSU team full of unknowns.
In 2017, PSU failed to cover the 20-point spread by one point, winning 33-14.
This year, the talent differential is even greater, but the game is at Heinz, at night, and Pitt will be "up" and prepared for the game. I'm sure Narduzzi will do everything he can to control the clock and slow the game, but ultimately, Vegas is probably on the money again, with PSU winning by 14 or so.
Sorry for the consecutive posts, but to elaborate: I view Pitt similarly as I do Rutgers and Maryland when thinking about how those series have progressed over recent seasons. Each of the programs got a clear shot at a wounded PSU early on, with two winning those games, and things have trended in a very clear direction as the PSU program grew healthier while the others have either stagnated or become worse for whatever reason.
Well it happened again and (sadly) I was a part of it.
Seems like the issue of RU starting out 5-1 and how its season might go was hijacked into talking about Penn state and hearing how badly it would beat Rutgers and how it would overcome the loss of some players and be a winner.
If/when RU starts off 5-1 F talking about who they might/probably will lose to , but think about who RU has a great chance for a win starting with game 7.
Maryland should be considered a team RU could beat.
Northwestern, because of being a home game, RU has a good chance to upset ( as it is before the season begins)
Michigan being an RU home game might make the possible upset might be on the list, but
it's hard for me to think that before seeing how their season is going. So I'll put them in the list of schools that I would consider a major upset and won't say it's a good possibility because of being a home game
So 7-5 is a possibility and talking about that might make a better conversation than talking about another school.
I hope the fans of other schools will start their own thread on this board and let this thread be about Rutgers and not comparing it to your school discussing your school .
I feel hijacking a thread about Rutgers and turning into talking about another program shows a lack of respect for RU FB and members of this board should point that out once they see it happening
Then get back on track talking Rutgers issues , unless the thread was about another college program
Seems like the issue of RU starting out 5-1 and how its season might go was hijacked into talking about Penn state and hearing how badly it would beat Rutgers and how it would overcome the loss of some players and be a winner.
If/when RU starts off 5-1 F talking about who they might/probably will lose to , but think about who RU has a great chance for a win starting with game 7.
Maryland should be considered a team RU could beat.
Northwestern, because of being a home game, RU has a good chance to upset ( as it is before the season begins)
Michigan being an RU home game might make the possible upset might be on the list, but
it's hard for me to think that before seeing how their season is going. So I'll put them in the list of schools that I would consider a major upset and won't say it's a good possibility because of being a home game
So 7-5 is a possibility and talking about that might make a better conversation than talking about another school.
I hope the fans of other schools will start their own thread on this board and let this thread be about Rutgers and not comparing it to your school discussing your school .
I feel hijacking a thread about Rutgers and turning into talking about another program shows a lack of respect for RU FB and members of this board should point that out once they see it happening
Then get back on track talking Rutgers issues , unless the thread was about another college program
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Interesting but we each view things through our own prism. I would say Pitt was wounded all of last year with essentially no QB. Time will tell but I would say that the game at Heinz will be close and I would not be surprised at all if Pitt won. I am pretty sure the PSU players will be up for the game as well. I do agree that the talent psu has is good and better overall than what Pitt has and most other teams for that matter. However, PSU beat OSU a couple years ago on that blocked kick. Talent wise PSU didn't belong on the same field but strange things happen in college football. As an aside I hope Nick Bowers has a great season for you. Great kid that has had some tough injuries to overcome. H2P
They don’t care about those kids or the kid who died last year at the frat. That’s PSU.
Your sanctions were nothing more than a slap on the wrist. For Christ sake! A total of 10 Scholarships over a 3 year span. LOL
Ya! Real Devastating LOL! Only to a Ped st fan
Plus, these constant claims how much talent they are getting. Wonder why they needed a miracle against Iowa last year. Then when it comes to Wisconsin you never hear them talk about their talent level.
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