4 remaining guys - Davis / Ogbole / Grant / Dortch

DC8690

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Good point. The more I think about it, our fans may not like it, but keeping J Mike around better have been an early priority on Pike’s list. I don’t know what the market for a projected A-10 starting PG is, but whatever that number is Pike, needed (or needs) to make sure our offer is competitive if not slightly better than that.

Anyone who thinks we’re landing a guaranteed better option than him within our budget to run the point is simply not in touch with reality. His minutes declined because he’s not that tall and he played the same position as Dylan Harper. No other reason. Since we’re not going to be getting a power conference PG starter, we may as well just keep our rising junior PG who has been in our system two years already. Why assume some PG who performed at the midmajor level will be better? Remember - J-Mike beat out Noah for PT as a frosh. The knock was his shooting and this year J-Mike improved his 3 point shooting to 33.3%. His FT shooting is still poor for a guard but he did improve year over year.

He certainly has some flaws but the pros of keeping him in Piscataway greatly outweigh the cons. Hopefully them negotiations with him are set and our backcourt focus is trying to find the best pair of 2 way shooting guard and wing we can find in the portal to complement him knowing that we need to save budget for an established post player. We need to spend 3M on those 3 positions. Hopefully under 1M total for the returning guys and frosh. Then whatever we can scrap together in leftovers to fill out the roster and that would include a kid like Francis.
Agreed, people on this board hated JY when he was here and now they make him out to be a god.
 
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Good point. The more I think about it, our fans may not like it, but keeping J Mike around better have been an early priority on Pike’s list. I don’t know what the market for a projected A-10 starting PG is, but whatever that number is Pike, needed (or needs) to make sure our offer is competitive if not slightly better than that.

Anyone who thinks we’re landing a guaranteed better option than him within our budget to run the point is simply not in touch with reality. His minutes declined because he’s not that tall and he played the same position as Dylan Harper. No other reason. Since we’re not going to be getting a power conference PG starter, we may as well just keep our rising junior PG who has been in our system two years already. Why assume some PG who performed at the midmajor level will be better? Remember - J-Mike beat out Noah for PT as a frosh. The knock was his shooting and this year J-Mike improved his 3 point shooting to 33.3%. His FT shooting is still poor for a guard but he did improve year over year.

He certainly has some flaws but the pros of keeping him in Piscataway greatly outweigh the cons. Hopefully them negotiations with him are set and our backcourt focus is trying to find the best pair of 2 way shooting guard and wing we can find in the portal to complement him knowing that we need to save budget for an established post player. We need to spend 3M on those 3 positions. Hopefully under 1M total for the returning guys and frosh. Then whatever we can scrap together in leftovers to fill out the roster and that would include a kid like Francis.
So where is our ‘established post player ‘ we saved NIL for ?

You make some good points but Shelby disagrees overall. You agree JMiss doesn’t have starter ability, and it’s likely untrue we can’t afford someone who does because from top to bottom the roster is very weak and undeserving of significant NIL to begin with. We aren’t so poor that he’s the best PG we could have ended up with.

Nothing about his talent to be a starter is up to snuff. Nothing.

Not getting a big, we had $ to get a legit D1 starter, which he isn’t.
 

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So where is our ‘established post player ‘ we saved NIL for ?

You make some good points but Shelby disagrees overall. You agree JMiss doesn’t have starter ability, and it’s likely untrue we can’t afford someone who does because from top to bottom the roster is very weak and undeserving of significant NIL to begin with. We aren’t so poor that he’s the best PG we could have ended up with.

Nothing about his talent to be a starter is up to snuff. Nothing.

Not getting a big, we had $ to get a legit D1 starter, which he isn’t.
There is no we, you’re not a Rutgers fan.
 

patk89

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I agree with the general sentiment concerning Francis.

However, one thing to consider is that as a reserve role player at RU with guardrails in place he should (hopefully) be a more efficient offensive player. He won’t have the burden of being the primary guy who had to create offense on a bad team as was the case with NJIT.
Don't know the answer, but were defenses concentrating on him at NJIT as he was the only legit scoring threat? Not going to be an issue at RU next year.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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So where is our ‘established post player ‘ we saved NIL for ?

You make some good points but Shelby disagrees overall. You agree JMiss doesn’t have starter ability, and it’s likely untrue we can’t afford someone who does because from top to bottom the roster is very weak and undeserving of significant NIL to begin with. We aren’t so poor that he’s the best PG we could have ended up with.

Nothing about his talent to be a starter is up to snuff. Nothing.

Not getting a big, we had $ to get a legit D1 starter, which he isn’t.

I guess you didn’t listen to Richie’s latest podcast. We outbid VA for the second Euro kid who offered over 200K. That was for a kid who only got 9 min of garbage time in the Italian Series A league. The market is apparently just nuts. Fall was unfortunately what we could afford.

It seems we did everything I suggested in that post except on an even more limited budget than we thought based on market inflation.
 
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Also - they clarify a little about the scholarship limit thing which is confusing. We could take 15 technically but they make it sound like we might only take 13 as financial limitations may not make it such that 15 makes sense. It’s a pretty good listen with some good info.
There is no way to keep 15 scholarship players happy.
 
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