397 new cases yesterday

[thatsbaseball]

.....and if the economy ain't going the programs the 27% of the population which is at a higher risk heavily depend on can't be sustained. IMO we have no choice but to "let er rip" and do the best we can individually and collectively to make everybody as safe as possible....knowing there will be collateral damage until we get a better handle on it. This thing has exposed some glaring weaknesses in the care of our elderly that needed addressing anyway....it's just a shame it took something like this to expose them.

 

[Go Budaw]

Your sheep minded ignorance about what a continual shutdown would look like is what is scary. You want to bleed the country dry while spacing out deaths that are going to end up happening anyway and it’s one of the dumbest 17ing strategies we could possibly come up with. You are going to have way more deaths on the back end than anyone wanting to open up now will have on the front end and you can’t see anything except what’s right in front of your face. YOU are the scary one and you’re too short sighted to see it.

Its OK to acknowledge the seriousness of this thing and still support a measured reopening of the economy. I don’t know a single person who literally wants to stay shut down forever, or who is really even adamant against the reopening policiies that are currently being implemented. But at the same time, you have to recognize that things will be different on the back end. People will be more careful, PPE will be more prevalent, and things / activities that are not economically essential will likely continue to be shutdown or extremely limited in the scope of their operation. And that’s OK.

Bottom line....a pandemic severe enough to kill 60,000 in 6 weeks, in spite of us having a 2 month forewarning on its arrival to prepare AND a large scale economic shutdown not seen since the Great Depression when it first arrived is not to be 17ed with. It should be treated with an extreme abundance of caution.

 

[Go Budaw]

I would be curious why anybody up voted or more particularly down voted this and why. It's an absolutely benign post....what am I missing here ?

Because there are serial downvoters. Also, it seems that anyone who comments on a presence or absence of downvotes gets immediately downvoted. Now I’ll start waiting for mine.

 

[paindonthurt_]

I am absolutely appalled at the ignorance of people like you who also claim intellectual superiority.

Saying “it’s only serious for older people and people with underlying diseases” doesn’t mean we want or don’t care if those people die.

It means we want to take a logical approach to this given the data and facts.

Let’s move on with life for those who aren’t “at risk” while providing extra protection to those who are “at risk”.

A very intelligent and logical argument can be made that getting back to work can help us help those “at risk” people.

 

[campshelbydog842003]

Its OK to acknowledge the seriousness of this thing and still support a measured reopening of the economy. I don’t know a single person who literally wants to stay shut down forever, or who is really even adamant against the reopening policiies that are currently being implemented. But at the same time, you have to recognize that things will be different on the back end. People will be more careful, PPE will be more prevalent, and things / activities that are not economically essential will likely continue to be shutdown or extremely limited in the scope of their operation. And that’s OK.

Bottom line....a pandemic severe enough to kill 60,000 in 6 weeks, in spite of us having a 2 month forewarning on its arrival to prepare AND a large scale economic shutdown not seen since the Great Depression when it first arrived is not to be 17ed with. It should be treated with an extreme abundance of caution.

We should have a measured approach to reopening. The reason for that is to not overwhelm the hospitals once the cases start to build. The only way we are saving lives is by not overwhelming the hospitals. People are acting like we can stop this virus and we can’t. The sooner people stop perpetuating that BS the sooner we can stop bickering about this.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Daily testing of employees utilizing shifts.

^^^^This^^^^

 

[paindonthurt_]

But you can limit societal measures to a much smaller group of people and still accomplish the goal regarding nursing homes.

 

[patdog]

Saw a stat the other day that is pretty amazing. 1 in 600 New Yorkers have died from the virus so far. Of course, they're much more densely populated than the rest of the country, but this is pretty serious business. I'm all for caution. But we've got to at least partially open the economy for most of the rest of the country.

 

[ColoradoDawg]

I imagine this spike has something to do with Easter weekend.

 

[dog12]

Requiring an employee to return to the office when he/she is already productive at home and said employee ends up getting the Rona and dying is going to end up in serious litigation.

Maybe employers could give employees the option of continuing to work at home if they are hesitant to come into the office.

That way, it's the employee's choice to come into the office and thus the employee assumes the risk.

 

[HailStout]

Thank you. This sums it up perfectly.

 

[dog12]

Its OK to acknowledge the seriousness of this thing and still support a measured reopening of the economy. I don’t know a single person who literally wants to stay shut down forever, or who is really even adamant against the reopening policiies that are currently being implemented. But at the same time, you have to recognize that things will be different on the back end. People will be more careful, PPE will be more prevalent, and things / activities that are not economically essential will likely continue to be shutdown or extremely limited in the scope of their operation. And that’s OK.

Bottom line....a pandemic severe enough to kill 60,000 in 6 weeks, in spite of us having a 2 month forewarning on its arrival to prepare AND a large scale economic shutdown not seen since the Great Depression when it first arrived is not to be 17ed with. It should be treated with an extreme abundance of caution.

I agree that we should determine a proper balance between dealing with the effects of the virus and reopening our economy.

As best I can determine, we have avoided overwhelming our hospitals during the initial wave. Thus, we need to start reopening our economy . . . and we have.

At this point, I think treating the virus "with an extreme abundance of caution" is going too far. That would keep us in "lockdown" mode. Instead, I would say that we need to treat the virus "with caution" while we start reopening the economy.

Also, I think we should be flexible going forward . . . meaning that we can move back towards "lockdown" mode, if the circumstances warrant that.