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Jayrodt

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preacherfan said:
I expect more from even KU fans than this. 35 to 2 is completely ridiculous for an entire game against a legit conference foe. Can't you guys understand that or are you as dense as the UNC fans who still claim they only offered easy classes?
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You are literally comparing me giving you stats to show that WVU sucked at getting to the line against you for almost half of the game to someone downplaying systemic academic fraud?

That is quite the stretch and maybe you should try to refute the stats. There is plenty of room to do so. You just choose the low road instead.
 
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preacherfan

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Jayrodt said:
You are literally comparing me giving you stats to show that WVU sucked at getting to the line against you for almost half of the game to someone downplaying systemic academic fraud?

That is quite the stretch and maybe you should try to refute the stats. There is plenty of room to do so. You just choose the low road instead.
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1)You intentionally misrepresented my post. 2)You are using selective stats. Let's see the WHOLE game! You guys are so insecure, it is laughable.

BTW, I don't have a problem admitting that we got a favorable whistle for a stretch of that game.
 
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uky8unc5

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Double Oaked Juice said:
Yes, every NCAA official is an independent contractor. And while I'm sure there are certain standards outlined in their contracts, it's probably very difficult for a conference to terminate them. If they were employees of the conferences, it might be a completely different story.
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Double Oaked Juice, maybe it's semantics and we're saying the same thing...
* Agree that Officials ARE independent contractors.
* Officials affiliate with a Conference (or a couple of Conferences)
* But (unless something has changed) each Conference office decides who is on that Conference's officials list...and then the office makes the game assignments.
* Officials answer to and are rewarded/disciplined by the Conference office
* Officials do not communicate with individual schools (in Conference).
 
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buckethead1978

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Just goes to show that the 35 FTA in a game is a huge outlier and should red flag the officiating in the game.

Kind of like when I read your posts and they all suck out loud. If, and a bug if, you then post and it is a well thought out post and insightful, I would think that you either plagiarized or someone else was sitting at the computer
 
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The margin for discussion is 26-14-fouls. That Kansas committed 14 fouls resulting in only 2 WVU FT’s tells you something about their style of play.

I would feel frustrated if I was Huggins as well, but he needs to look at his own system and realize he has a bullsh*t offense and his style of play leads to collapses due to his press tiring out and having no way to score in the half court.

This would be a better discussion if we talked about actual calls like Azubuike’s terrible flop.
 
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I was indeed wrong about the 35-2 KU vs West Va. free throws. My sincere apologies. I am in no way a KU fan. Just thought that title was wrong. Didn't realize I was looking at the prior box score.
 
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preacherfan

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JoeBeeHall said:
Why not have the officials meet with media after the game to answer questions ?
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At the very least, I would like to have officials meet with the media to EXPLAIN the rules behind the calls and to explain why a T was called on a player who didn't seem to do anything.
 
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Cali-Hawk

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JoeBeeHall said:
Why not have the officials meet with media after the game to answer questions ?
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Because John Chaney will come beat their ***. No I do think there should be accountability and statistics on refs, but I think you’re increasing the likelihood of crazy fans killing a ref, something I would think UK fans would be leary of.
 
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billCgmx

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Here's some stats for Kansas when Higgins officiates their games this season.

Kansas is 5-0
Kansas was favored in all 5 games
FT attempts in those 5 games: KU 120 - Opponents 66
FT attempts in games without Higgins: KU 297 - Opponents 353
 
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Cali-Hawk

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billCgmx said:
Here's some stats for Kansas when Higgins officiates their games this season.

Kansas is 5-0
Kansas was favored in all 5 games
FT attempts in those 5 games: KU 120 - Opponents 66
FT attempts in games without Higgins: KU 297 - Opponents 353
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Finally some new statistics being brought to the discussion. What was the foul count in those games? 35-2 is a lot different story than 26-14.
 
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Cali-Hawk said:
The margin for discussion is 26-14-fouls. That Kansas committed 14 fouls resulting in only 2 WVU FT’s tells you something about their style of play.

I would feel frustrated if I was Huggins as well, but he needs to look at his own system and realize he has a bullsh*t offense and his style of play leads to collapses due to his press tiring out and having no way to score in the half court.

This would be a better discussion if we talked about actual calls like Azubuike’s terrible flop.
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Actually, KU’s style of play should mean that KU gets to the line less than their opponents. This season, The number of 3pta by WVU and KU is almost identical. 694-692. You would think that since these are both teams that shoot a ton of 3’s, neither would find themselves at the line very much.

WVU actually gets to the line much more than KU per game. They actually have around 80 more FTA for the season as a team, yet in this game, had 2 attempts.

You can ignore statistical evidence all you want. These numbers prove that this game was called lopsided the whole time, and not just a little bit.
 
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bluegrass1985 said:
for all those saying KU gets the best whistle in the Big 12, i’ll just leave this little info here:

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/cbk/leaders.asp?conf=103&stat=68

if you don’t want to click the link, i’ll just let you know that KU is last in the big 12 in FTA per game.
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There is a reason for that. Where do they rank at 3PTA in the league? I’ll give you a little hint. They are 2 attempts away from being the highest. They jack up 3’s all game so no wonder they don’t get fouled.

Yet miraculously, they shoot 35 against a team they can’t beat with a straight whistle.

Your stats just prove this point even further.
 
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I totally understand how the numbers look. I really do. But let’s consider two things.

First, Udoka had ten free throw attempts. They were CLEARLY trying the hack-a-Doke. That’s at least five fouls right there, BY THEIR OWN INTENT.

Second, the fouls at the end of the game shouldn’t count as every team that is behind, fouls to stop the clock. That’s probably (would have to re-watch to count) four more.

Take away those fouls and free throws and it is a more reasonable scenario given WVU’s style of defense.

Svi totally travelled on that break away and Doke’s flop was an embarrassment. To be honest.
 
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Kubballfan

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Also. Our effing perimeter defense is so awful right now that the non-fouls are understandable. Hard to foul a guy when you are so out of position, that when he shoots, you are six goddam feet from him.
 
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billCgmx

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Kansas when Higgins officiated 2016-17 season.

Kansas was 4-1
Kansas was favored in 4 games and won all 4. Underdog vs W. Virginia and lost.
FT attempts in those 5 games: KU 88 - Opponents 97
FT attempts in games without Higgins: KU 701 - Opponents 563
 
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billCgmx said:
Kansas when Higgins officiated 2016-17 season.

Kansas was 4-1
Kansas was favored in 4 games and won all 4. Underdog vs W. Virginia and lost.
FT attempts in those 5 games: KU 88 - Opponents 97
FT attempts in games without Higgins: KU 701 - Opponents 563
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Nice find. Reading the Kansas boards, they seem to hate Higgins as much as anyone else. This just goes to show that he doesn’t have a bias. He’s fine being a jerk to everyone.
 
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