3 star recruits

[Ewooc]

Just wondering why Frost and staff are going offer crazy on 3 star guys? Not trying to sound like an ***. Just curious the reasoning. With all the offers going out there you would think they would be targeting some 4 and 5 star guys as well.
Do they know this late in the game the odds of getting a 4 and 5 star guy is slim so they don't want to waste their time? Are they just more accustomed to going after the lower guys at UCF so that is what they are doing here? Do they not care about rankings and are just going after a certain type of player?

 

[CatColumbia]

They are targeting several 4 star guys. The class needs to be filled with the best possible that is left. We've seen more action in the past two days than we did for the past 5 months! Trust in this staff.

 

[Anon1702376961]

Just wondering why Frost and staff are going offer crazy on 3 star guys? Not trying to sound like an ***. Just curious the reasoning. With all the offers going out there you would think they would be targeting some 4 and 5 star guys as well.
Do they know this late in the game the odds of getting a 4 and 5 star guy is slim so they don't want to waste their time? Are they just more accustomed to going after the lower guys at UCF so that is what they are doing here? Do they not care about rankings and are just going after a certain type of player?

I've seen quite a few 4 star guys they've been going after. Seems like they have gone after quite a few of FSU and Tennessee commits or de-commits. They definitely seem to be targeting a lot of speed though.

 

[jimbosc]

Maybe they know certain type of players they want (ones that fit the offensive scheme specifically) - and Frost has mentioned we need more speed as well. 3 star guys can have speed. Also - they likely are going with guys they have scouting profiles on from UCF - which would probably be light on 4 and 5 star guys. You MUST use the relationships you have with the short time frame left to recruit this class. Also - toughness and leadership get WAY undervalued. We have been lacking that. I assume Frost and Co. will do a better job finding those guys. Won't show in the star ratings.

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

They are targeting several 4 star guys. The class needs to be filled with the best possible that is left. We've seen more action in the past two days than we did for the past 5 months! Trust in this staff.

You always need 3 stars, and I believe there are a decent amount of 4's being talked to, including the former staffs targets.

 

[Harry Caray]

These are all 4-star guys:

Adrian Martinez
Johnathan Huggins
Jashaun Corbin
Joshua Fleeks
CJ Smith
Tommy Bush
Ayodele Adeoye

 

[Headcard]

I have been very impressed with the recruits offered and their response to the new staff.

 

[DudznSudz]

I also would throw in that a roster loaded with 4 and 5 star guys is easier to land when you've started winning a ton. We haven't done that. Give these guys some time to start hanging dozens of points on our Big Ten rivals, and you'll see a lot more talent walking up and asking to come here.

 

[Ewooc]

They are targeting several 4 star guys. The class needs to be filled with the best possible that is left. We've seen more action in the past two days than we did for the past 5 months! Trust in this staff.

Thats my guess too. Going after guys they know they have a shot at getting. Worry about the big dogs next year.

 

[19Football19]

Just wondering why Frost and staff are going offer crazy on 3 star guys? Not trying to sound like an ***. Just curious the reasoning. With all the offers going out there you would think they would be targeting some 4 and 5 star guys as well.
Do they know this late in the game the odds of getting a 4 and 5 star guy is slim so they don't want to waste their time? Are they just more accustomed to going after the lower guys at UCF so that is what they are doing here? Do they not care about rankings and are just going after a certain type of player?

Frost has a great name, but has never been a great recruiter. Good, yes. He’s only averaged one 4* in each class even in FLO. Land locked Neb isn’t going to be an easier. He’s known as a 3* recruiter. Good at evaluating talent tho.

Our first 5 or 6 recruits are always 4* and I swear we end up with the same amount every Year. We’re down to 2, and we’ll probably only end up with 5 or 6.

What’s going to hurt his brand is next year. We’re going to lose 4 or 5 games again and people will think he’s “not the guy”. Momentum will be slowed drastically.

 

[Clevinger_rivals246724]

Honestly, whether someone is three or four star players means little to me.

Some of our best players were walk ons and three stars.

This staff just seems to be going after what they need, and I trust them to do it.

 

[mt_slothmore]

Just wondering why Frost and staff are going offer crazy on 3 star guys? Not trying to sound like an ***. Just curious the reasoning. With all the offers going out there you would think they would be targeting some 4 and 5 star guys as well.
Do they know this late in the game the odds of getting a 4 and 5 star guy is slim so they don't want to waste their time? Are they just more accustomed to going after the lower guys at UCF so that is what they are doing here? Do they not care about rankings and are just going after a certain type of player?

Good grief

 

[BHeinDaHuskers]

After seeing the last 19 years I don't care if a kid is a 5* or 1*. This is my new measuring stick:

• If this coaching staff likes them and thinks they have the right tools physically & mentally to be Huskers. Sign em up.

The rest is on the player & coaches.

 

[Headcard]

Here is a full list of who the new staff has offered from Hail Varsity, some big time talent.

https://hailvarsity.com/s/2895/new-husker-staff-extends-nearly-20-new-offers-in-first-two-days

 

[frostonthegrass]

Just wondering why Frost and staff are going offer crazy on 3 star guys? Not trying to sound like an ***. Just curious the reasoning. With all the offers going out there you would think they would be targeting some 4 and 5 star guys as well.
Do they know this late in the game the odds of getting a 4 and 5 star guy is slim so they don't want to waste their time? Are they just more accustomed to going after the lower guys at UCF so that is what they are doing here? Do they not care about rankings and are just going after a certain type of player?

I really like the 3star JUCO, Will Honas....fast LB that brings it

 

[Harry Caray]

Frost has a great name, but has never been a great recruiter. Good, yes. He’s only averaged one 4* in each class even in FLO. Land locked Neb isn’t going to be an easier. He’s known as a 3* recruiter. Good at evaluating talent tho.

Our first 5 or 6 recruits are always 4* and I swear we end up with the same amount every Year. We’re down to 2, and we’ll probably only end up with 5 or 6.

What’s going to hurt his brand is next year. We’re going to lose 4 or 5 games again and people will think he’s “not the guy”. Momentum will be slowed drastically.

He was a pretty darn good recruiter at Oregon - named the 5th best recruiter in the Pac-12 conference in 2014.

Remember that Mike Riley didn't exactly light up the recruiting trail at Oregon State. So you can't really judge Frost's recruiting too much at UCF. Most 4-star recruits aren't even going to consider a non-Power 5 team.

 

[Hastings4Huskers]

I like the 3 star guys with speed as long as the staff develops them. I have seen too many 4* guys the last few coaches that didn't get developed into what there rankings we're coming out of highschool. As long as they develop them they will be playing like 4* unlike what we have previously seen.

 

[GeorgeFlippin]

Aaron Taylor was considered a two star player when he was recruited, and many walkons were that or less over the years. Player development is one thing the new staff will have to do well with the three or less star recruits, whether they be offered a scholarship or to walkon.

 

[TheBeav815]

Here is a full list of who the new staff has offered from Hail Varsity, some big time talent.

https://hailvarsity.com/s/2895/new-husker-staff-extends-nearly-20-new-offers-in-first-two-days

Color me thrilled to see so many JUCO guys on that list. I was sick to death of fans making excuses for Riley about how there weren't enough good players while he got absolutely nobody to give them immediate upgrades.

You don't build a whole roster out of JUCO guys every year, but when you need to flip a program, you better upgrade the talent as fast as you can.

 

[Husker424242]

We get too caught up with star rankings. Just develop a culture of hard work and excellence, get a bunch of local guys, and we will be just fine

 

[Headcard]

Color me thrilled to see so many JUCO guys on that list. I was sick to death of fans making excuses for Riley about how there weren't enough good players while he got absolutely nobody to give them immediate upgrades.

You don't build a whole roster out of JUCO guys every year, but when you need to flip a program, you better upgrade the talent as fast as you can.

Agree 100% about the JUCO's. Ryan Held could pay off big time there.

 

[TheBeav815]

We get too caught up with star rankings. Just develop a culture of hard work and excellence, get a bunch of local guys, and we will be just fine

No. You do not choose one or the other. You get the best of the local guys AND you get elite players from around the country. And you coach up all of them.

Plenty of guys can coach down a top recruiting class, but you go ahead and show me which team won it all any time recently without top classes before it happened.

 

[Ewooc]

Here is a full list of who the new staff has offered from Hail Varsity, some big time talent.

https://hailvarsity.com/s/2895/new-husker-staff-extends-nearly-20-new-offers-in-first-two-days

Awesome thanks. Yeah there are more 4 star guys than I thought.

 

[Ewooc]

No. You do not choose one or the other. You get the best of the local guys AND you get elite players from around the country. And you coach up all of them.

Plenty of guys can coach down a top recruiting class, but you go ahead and show me which team won it all any time recently without top classes before it happened.

We have seen plenty of coaching down talented guys the last few years. This staff took a mediocre talent team at UCF and made them look 4 and 5 star looking guys.

 

[timnsun]

Frost has a great name, but has never been a great recruiter. Good, yes. He’s only averaged one 4* in each class even in FLO. Land locked Neb isn’t going to be an easier. He’s known as a 3* recruiter. Good at evaluating talent tho.

Our first 5 or 6 recruits are always 4* and I swear we end up with the same amount every Year. We’re down to 2, and we’ll probably only end up with 5 or 6.

What’s going to hurt his brand is next year. We’re going to lose 4 or 5 games again and people will think he’s “not the guy”. Momentum will be slowed drastically.

You never cease to amaze me. If he takes a 4-8 team and makes them 8-4 next year, his stock is going to go down? Really?

 

[Ewooc]

After seeing the last 19 years I don't care if a kid is a 5* or 1*. This is my new measuring stick:

• If this coaching staff likes them and thinks they have the right tools physically & mentally to be Huskers. Sign em up.

The rest is on the player & coaches.

The BIGGEST issue we had especially under Riley was not getting the full potential out of the talent we had. Like many have said, we don't have top talent like Ohio St but we have more talent than Minn, Iowa and Northern Ill. I believe Frost and team will make these kids work harder than they ever have and get the most out of them. If we lose a few weak guys along the way so be it.

 

[Ewooc]

Frost has a great name, but has never been a great recruiter. Good, yes. He’s only averaged one 4* in each class even in FLO. Land locked Neb isn’t going to be an easier. He’s known as a 3* recruiter. Good at evaluating talent tho.

Our first 5 or 6 recruits are always 4* and I swear we end up with the same amount every Year. We’re down to 2, and we’ll probably only end up with 5 or 6.

What’s going to hurt his brand is next year. We’re going to lose 4 or 5 games again and people will think he’s “not the guy”. Momentum will be slowed drastically.

I don't think so all. Everyone I know or have talked to and most every on this board as well know next year is going to be tough in the W-L area. Very few are expecting more that 5 wins next year. So I don't see to much increased pressure on him. To me this next year or so, the wins and losses don't mean much. It is going to be what I see on the field. I want to see a team that puts their all into a game. Players that are not laughing and joking around after a loss. Coaches that demand the best of of the players. A team that shows progress from game 1 to the end.

 

[19Football19]

I don't think so all. Everyone I know or have talked to and most every on this board as well know next year is going to be tough in the W-L area. Very few are expecting more that 5 wins next year. So I don't see to much increased pressure on him. To me this next year or so, the wins and losses don't mean much. It is going to be what I see on the field. I want to see a team that puts their all into a game. Players that are not laughing and joking around after a loss. Coaches that demand the best of of the players. A team that shows progress from game 1 to the end.

I agree with you. I’m saying the “media” or what the kids will think. They’ll run with anything negative they can. It won’t be SF fault. In fact, we’ll probably win 1 or 2 games due to him that we would have lost this year.

 

[SkerInCo]

Frost has a great name, but has never been a great recruiter. Good, yes. He’s only averaged one 4* in each class even in FLO. Land locked Neb isn’t going to be an easier. He’s known as a 3* recruiter. Good at evaluating talent tho.

Our first 5 or 6 recruits are always 4* and I swear we end up with the same amount every Year. We’re down to 2, and we’ll probably only end up with 5 or 6.

What’s going to hurt his brand is next year. We’re going to lose 4 or 5 games again and people will think he’s “not the guy”. Momentum will be slowed drastically.

"Landlocked" like OK, MI, OH, PA, etc right? Sorry but Nebraska will always out recruit UCF, regardless of who's coaching. The recruiting myth continues i guess...

 

[Kluthe1985]

Carriker, Herian, McKeon, Swift, B. Jackson, Nunn, Z Taylor, Holt, Crick, Helu, Hagg, Amukamara, Dennard, T. Martinez, Sirles, Kinnie, Gomes, C Evans, Enunwa, Bell, Abdullah, Valentine, Gerry, Maurice, M. Collins, Pierson-EL, C Jones, Carlos Davis, Jo Jo Doman, Spielman, Bryant, Deontre Thomas, Jaimes, Bradley

These guys were all 3* recruits. Most of these guys played in the NFL or are still playing or coaching. It is not the number of stars fellas. It is the coaching. Let's stay behind all players and whoever the coach recruits because they all have talent. It is just getting the most out of the talent for your team.

 

[huskernaut_rivals292165]

Too many star gazers. Riley Syndrome. People love to count the stars don't they?

 

[Archie Graham]

Just wondering why Frost and staff are going offer crazy on 3 star guys? Not trying to sound like an ***. Just curious the reasoning. With all the offers going out there you would think they would be targeting some 4 and 5 star guys as well.
Do they know this late in the game the odds of getting a 4 and 5 star guy is slim so they don't want to waste their time? Are they just more accustomed to going after the lower guys at UCF so that is what they are doing here? Do they not care about rankings and are just going after a certain type of player?

We MUST fill this class.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch_rivals294365]

Just wondering why Frost and staff are going offer crazy on 3 star guys? Not trying to sound like an ***. Just curious the reasoning. With all the offers going out there you would think they would be targeting some 4 and 5 star guys as well.
Do they know this late in the game the odds of getting a 4 and 5 star guy is slim so they don't want to waste their time? Are they just more accustomed to going after the lower guys at UCF so that is what they are doing here? Do they not care about rankings and are just going after a certain type of player?

Or you could have Riley who basically took the first month or so off from recruiting after accepting the job?

I thought that worked out well.

 

[Ewooc]

Or you could have Riley who basically took the first month or so off from recruiting after accepting the job?

I thought that worked out well.

They did? I thought they had thrown out offers like crazy just like Frost and staff are doing.

 

[Headcard]

Too many star gazers. Riley Syndrome. People love to count the stars don't they?

Riley Syndrome, LOL. You don’t think recruiting matters? Look at the recruiting rankings of the playoff teams.

 

[huskernaut_rivals292165]

You can hand out the recruiting title award with Mike Riley's participation ribbons. Does talent matter, sure. Leon Jackson kind of shoots your theory down though...so does Wisconsin. One score from being in the playoff with very few highly rated players.

 

[HuskAir]

Hopefully Frost is actively pursuing Bookie; he received his 5th star today

 

[HuskerO58]

You can hand out the recruiting title award with Mike Riley's participation ribbons. Does talent matter, sure. Leon Jackson kind of shoots your theory down though...so does Wisconsin. One score from being in the playoff with very few highly rated players.

Sorry but 1 player and 1 team doesn't shoot any theory down.

 

[Coach Frothingham]

Speed, speed, and more speed are the type of players being offered. Star gazers will be upset, but they will target players that fit their system, just like Oregon did.

 

[Headcard]

Speed, speed, and more speed are the type of players being offered. Star gazers will be upset, but they will target players that fit their system, just like Oregon did.

What? You don’t think guys that can run are in demand and ranked high? You don’t think Oregon recruited well? At Oregon Frost was responsible for signing 15 players, 12 were 4-stars. Look at the guys this staff has offered the last two days, they are going after the best. If you think they just plan to sprinkle some fairy dust on a bunch of 2-stars, you are sadly mistaken.