3 Classic Jerks

rick64

Heisman
Jan 25, 2007
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So first losing season for Cal and UK, and what do you know....Thamel, Forde and Wetzel decide to jump all over it. Why am I NOT surprised.
 
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LmdCat

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Jan 8, 2006
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Cal is not going anywhere, the buyout is too large.
Cal had the #1 recruiting class in America last yr and when you look at who he has coming in next yr with Oscar and the prospect of landing a couple more studs, I think we will be ok next season also.
Yadda yadda yadda have we started hanging banners for a worthless top recruiting class recognition? What good does it do you if you don't know what to do with it?
 
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LmdCat

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So first losing season for Cal and UK, and what do you know....Thamel, Forde and Wetzel decide to jump all over it. Why am I NOT surprised.
You make this first losing season sound like it is by a single loss and possibly because injuries to key players. Not the case!! We look like we shouldn't be on the court. We look as clueless on the court as a Jamaican bobsled team on ice.
 

KyFaninNC

Heisman
Mar 14, 2005
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When is the article coming out on K or Izzo. Geez Louise....Izzo hasn't won a title in 20 years.
These guys just don't like Cal and take any opportunity to grind their axe with him. Self hasn't won anyting since 08'. Had plenty of talent too.
True, but no other coaches go around running their mouth about how many NBA draft picks they have either.
 

LmdCat

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When is the article coming out on K or Izzo. Geez Louise....Izzo hasn't won a title in 20 years.
These guys just don't like Cal and take any opportunity to grind their axe with him. Self hasn't won anyting since 08'. Had plenty of talent too.
How can I fault them for not liking Cal? UK fans don't like Cal, the refs don't like Cal, James Naismith doesn't Cal, Cal's dog doesn't like Cal. I am not certain that Cal likes Cal. GET IT!!
 
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FrankUnderwood

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May 26, 2017
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You better stop the gloom and doomers don’t want to hear that! Of course they found stuff to ***** and moan about every year Cal has been here!

Nah, just the last few years. The first 5/6 years were incredible.

Times have changed though unfortunately and Cal refuses to adapt. That’s the issue.
 
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Cawood86_rivals

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Feb 20, 2005
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K gets a lifetime pass for 5 NC’s and numerous gold medals with team USA.
Mich St isn’t a blue blood like UK or Duke. Izzo has a ton of Final Fours and one NC. Not a Gold Standard program so below Gold Standard success is acceptable.
Self deserves a ton of heat! He is a choke artist in the tournament like Cal. Thank goodness that’s who we played in the NC game in 2012. And I’m sure Kansas fans are just as grateful they played choke man Cal and Memphis in 2008.
One of the two had to choke in each of those games.
K gets a pass becuase of his idol worshippers, Vitale, ESPN, etc. Izzo and Self both get a ton of free passes. I have no idea why.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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Feb 20, 2005
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How can I fault them for not liking Cal? UK fans don't like Cal, the refs don't like Cal, James Naismith doesn't Cal, Cal's dog doesn't like Cal. I am not certain that Cal likes Cal. GET IT!!
The issue is, there is no article like this written if UK is running like a top. Only when UK falters do these trolls come out from under their bridge.
Cal is fair game for a lot of things. His mouth has written uncashable checks for years.
However, dook, KU, UNC all suck this year. UNC went 14-19 a year or so ago, no article. Izzo got a seal beting the other night. No article.
Why pick out UK? You know why.
 

billCgmx

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Apr 9, 2015
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When is the article coming out on K or Izzo. Geez Louise....Izzo hasn't won a title in 20 years.
These guys just don't like Cal and take any opportunity to grind their axe with him. Self hasn't won anyting since 08'. Had plenty of talent too.
Michign State's recruiting since Cal arrived here

48th, 26th, 17th, 49th, 3rd, 25th, 40th, 79th, 12th, 19th, 9th, 42nd
 

gwjenning

All-American
Mar 6, 2017
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The issue is, there is no article like this written if UK is running like a top. Only when UK falters do these trolls come out from under their bridge.
Cal is fair game for a lot of things. His mouth has written uncashable checks for years.
However, dook, KU, UNC all suck this year. UNC went 14-19 a year or so ago, no article. Izzo got a seal beting the other night. No article.
Why pick out UK? You know why.
Because we have the most passionate fans in college basketball and it’s not even close. And the majority of us are not very happy right now.
It‘s been 100 years since we’ve started this bad.
Duke, Kansas, and UNC still make the tournament. We have no chance
I think there’s a few reasons why you pick out UK.
 
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LmdCat

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Jan 8, 2006
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The issue is, there is no article like this written if UK is running like a top. Only when UK falters do these trolls come out from under their bridge.
Cal is fair game for a lot of things. His mouth has written uncashable checks for years.
However, dook, KU, UNC all suck this year. UNC went 14-19 a year or so ago, no article. Izzo got a seal beting the other night. No article.
Why pick out UK? You know why.
Are you really surprised that people would take the opportunity to kick someone who they don't like when he is down? With all do respect, how old are you? You are either extremely young or very innocent.
 

deep3

All-Conference
May 15, 2002
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I am grateful to what he did to rebuild the brand. My question: are we merely coasting off the gas from that original first 6 year "fill up?" Yes, the car is still moving, but the gas tank is empty and the car is no longer accelerating.
Spot on his priorities have completely changed
 
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LmdCat

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Michign State's recruiting since Cal arrived here

48th, 26th, 17th, 49th, 3rd, 25th, 40th, 79th, 12th, 19th, 9th, 42nd
So what do you take from those stats? You should either take that Izzo does much more with less or that Cal has no idea what to do with top recruiting classes or recruiting class rankings mean nothing.
 

Catluv

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Dec 18, 2018
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So what do you take from those stats? You should either take that Izzo does much more with less or that Cal has no idea what to do with top recruiting classes or recruiting class rankings mean nothing.
You could take that Izzo is lazy recruiting!!
 

LmdCat

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Jan 8, 2006
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You could take that Izzo is lazy recruiting!!
You could but his teams are always in the mix so what is your point? I would rather have a less lazy coach than recruiter. What good is it to have the talent and not know what to do with it?
 

billCgmx

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Apr 9, 2015
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So what do you take from those stats? You should either take that Izzo does much more with less or that Cal has no idea what to do with top recruiting classes or recruiting class rankings mean nothing.
Going with Cal does much less with a lot more. Take a look at tge amount of talent that has come to Kentucky since Cal came to town. Unfortunately, I think it's fair to say he's wasted more talent than any other coach in college BB.

5-Star Recruits 2009-2020

Kentucky 47
Duke 26
UNC 16
Kansas 15
 

LmdCat

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Jan 8, 2006
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Going with Cal does much less with a lot more. Take a look at tge amount of talent that has come to Kentucky since Cal came to town. Unfortunately, I think it's fair to say he's wasted more talent than any other coach in college BB.

5-Star Recruits 2009-2020

Kentucky 47
Duke 26
UNC 16
Kansas 15
Was that the sound of you dropping your mike? 😁
 

billCgmx

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Apr 9, 2015
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Instead of amassing talent and shuttling guys to the NBA, I wish Cal would scout guys who fit into a team system. Bring in good shooters to complement the stud athletes.
 
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willievic

All-American
Aug 28, 2005
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I hate to see Cal leave but you have to admit even this recruiting cycle is average at best like he’s recruiting knowing he won’t be here next year. Then you have the players on this roster should come back since there is not one player that could go first round as of now, so this should be a team full of multi year players.
I would move on if I were in his position, there’s just to many fans that think they are entitled with over the top expectations. I would I love for them to win a title every year but realistically I know that’s not possible.
I guess we will see what Cal is made of after this season.

Jace, I don't think UK fans expect to win a Championship every year, that's stupid. However, when you recruit the top class, you expect better then what were getting in the last 5 years, plus this one. If we're going to lose, at least do it with some players that have been here more then one year, and are playing for UK, not the NBA. The other thing is, Cal should be coaching for UK, not the NBA. Who is paying his salary?

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 

bluegrasshickory

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Oct 28, 2017
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But what are they supposed to do? Ignore this story? It’s pretty epic. If Bill Self or Tony Bennet were 5-20 they’d run the same piece. It’s news. 5-10 is a story. Period. It’s pretty gnarly.
 

Jimmie

Junior
Jun 13, 2010
321
254
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Over-the-top salaries deserve over-the-top expectations which they are not. How many other coaches have life time contracts? To whom much is given much is expected, just as it should be. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen,
There is no coach of any sport at any level that doesn't occasionally have a down year. Salary or tenure has no relevance. Fans who aren't children accept that. If one year becomes two, or three, then calls for firing become justified. As it is now, I'm amazed at the amount of childish ignorance on RR.
 
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Cawood86_rivals

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Feb 20, 2005
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Are you really surprised that people would take the opportunity to kick someone who they don't like when he is down? With all do respect, how old are you? You are either extremely young or very innocent.
I wish I were both. I understand what you are saying. I just think it's a little hypocritical to single Cal out when other blue bloods are swimming the same pool as UK this year. These same guys strain their necks to look away when K's hypocrisy comes out.
I have no problem with Cal taking heat. Plenty of heat to go around this year is all I'm saying.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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Feb 20, 2005
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Because we have the most passionate fans in college basketball and it’s not even close. And the majority of us are not very happy right now.
It‘s been 100 years since we’ve started this bad.
Duke, Kansas, and UNC still make the tournament. We have no chance
I think there’s a few reasons why you pick out UK.
I think maybe you confused my post or I'm confused with yours. I'm talking about the 3 trolls who live to snipe Cal at every turn.
 

LmdCat

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Jan 8, 2006
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I wish I were both. I understand what you are saying. I just think it's a little hypocritical to single Cal out when other blue bloods are swimming the same pool as UK this year. These same guys strain their necks to look away when K's hypocrisy comes out.
I have no problem with Cal taking heat. Plenty of heat to go around this year is all I'm saying.
I hear what you are saying, but Cal has worked hard to create all the hate coming his way. For that, I have nothing for him but a ticket out of town. Because the hate he has brought on himself is now spilling over onto the team that I have cheered for most of my life. No coach or player is more important than the team.
 
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Kybluedude

Heisman
Nov 19, 2005
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I hear what you are saying, but Cal has worked hard to create all the hate coming his way. For that, I have nothing for him but a ticket out of town. Because the hate he has brought on himself is now spilling over onto the team that I have cheered for most of my life. No coach or player is more important than the team.
You guys continue to miss the transition occurring in our program right before your eyes. This is a transition year. Cal is building the core base of players to take him to a couple more titles over his last years
 
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LmdCat

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You guys continue to mis the transition occurring in our program right before your eyes. This is a transition year. Cal is building the core base of players to take him to a couple more titles over his last years
Please put it down now. Call and ask for help before the situation worsens. It is never too late to seek help.
 

Catluv

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Dec 18, 2018
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You could but his teams are always in the mix so what is your point? I would rather have a less lazy coach than recruiter. What good is it to have the talent and not know what to do with it?
Year in year out we are in mix more than MSU.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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Feb 20, 2005
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I hear what you are saying, but Cal has worked hard to create all the hate coming his way. For that, I have nothing for him but a ticket out of town. Because the hate he has brought on himself is now spilling over onto the team that I have cheered for most of my life. No coach or player is more important than the team.
These guys don't care about UK. They would be writing this article if Cal was coaching Yemen. Cal is not the same Cal imo. However, Izzo. Self, etc ain't been exactly setting the world on fire either. No articles about them. I get you're done with Cal, I do, but I still see the hypocrisy here despite my frustrations with Cal.
 
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armchairpg

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Oct 24, 2012
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But we were good in 17,19, and 20. I mean are we not able to acknowledge that? Last year (20) we had a much better regular season than 11, 13, and 14. Why do we have to pretend we sucked last year?
Thank you. I don’t get the “we fell off the face of the earth after 2015” narrative.
 
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The Nightman2

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Nov 30, 2019
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Actually, Cal has destroyed the brand. Players don't come to UK any more because of all the past traditional reasons. They come here because Cal promised them a fast lane to the NBA.
Times have changed you should too.
 

The Nightman2

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Because we have the most passionate fans in college basketball and it’s not even close. And the majority of us are not very happy right now.
It‘s been 100 years since we’ve started this bad.
Duke, Kansas, and UNC still make the tournament. We have no chance
I think there’s a few reasons why you pick out UK.
When they say passionate, they're being nice for saying alot are delusional
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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Dec 7, 2007
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But we were good in 17,19, and 20. I mean are we not able to acknowledge that? Last year (20) we had a much better regular season than 11, 13, and 14. Why do we have to pretend we sucked last year?
I didn't say we "sucked last year" in that statement. I very clearly said we aren't accelerating, and we aren't. Even the 2019 team choked in the Elite Eight and SEC tourney. Last year's team was maybe a 3 seed. That's decent, but that is not accelerating as a program. 2016, 2018, and even 2019 ended on horrible notes. Recruiting has fallen. I see no momentum as a program, even before this year. Do you?
 
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I really do wish Calipari could adapt and fix everything but I just don't have any faith that he will anymore. All I want is to be in the hunt most years and watch a team play together with effort. The revolving door of players leaving early and transferring is just ridiculous.