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Pitt loses at Georgia Tech to finish 9-9 in the ACC. They did beat Duke, but they've dropped out of the RPI top 50 and have just 2 top 50 wins with 2 bad losses.
 
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Syracuse falls at Florida State. They also finish 9-9 in the ACC. 4-8 vs top 50 with 3 bad losses (including 235 St John's).
 
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Odd take away about NIU. They beat UNC, IowaSt, and WSU twice. Washpun is as good as anyone on any of those teams. Yet they lost 12 games, 9 of them to team 100+. Jacobsen worst coaching job in America this season?

WSU will give NCAA their biggest headache this season. The committee just let out a collective groan. Good computer numbers, but few quality wins. Plus the Van Vleet injury issue early in season.
 
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St Joe's picks up a bad home loss to Duquesne, but it's probably too little too late to keep them out.
 
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Wichita State has the Gonzaga factor going for them. They will get the benefit of the doubt from the committee especially knowing Van Vleet was hurt for the early part of the season
 
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texcane1982 said:
WSU is safe, they're an at large bid. Their loss does not help TU at all.

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By traditional RPI-based resume, they don't look like an at-large team, but if the committee considers other factors then they're probably in. My guess is they get sent to Dayton.
 
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texcane1982

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ctt8410 said:
St Joe's picks up a bad home loss to Duquesne, but it's probably too little too late to keep them out.
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ctt8410 said:
By traditional RPI-based resume, they don't look like an at-large team, but if the committee considers other factors then they're probably in. My guess is they get sent to Dayton.
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That was my thought, I think at worst Dayton, best case 10 seed.

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texcane1982 said:
Yep, majority of teams earn their at large bid before they enter their conference tourney, based on total body of work. Conference tourney impacts bubble teams, and WSU was never a bubble.

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They have 4 Top 100 wins. 4. Ctt is right, they don't have a great resume. The odd thing about them is they are not only decent in RPI, but also Sagarin. So all their computer numbers are decent.

Trust me, they are the first "trouble" team for the committee. Difficult decision.
 
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texcane1982

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I've always thought auto-bids should go to regular season champion. The conference tourney should be used to break regular season conference champion tie-breakers beyond head to head results, and improving the resume.

I believe The Ivy is only conference decided by regular season champ, and they employ playoff games to settle regular season champ tie-breakers.

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texcane1982

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live-rpi has TU at 39, but in-game at 46 even w/ 2 possesion lead late. I can't imagine TU RPI falls that far beating USF?

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live-rpi now has TU at 45 after beating USF. I guess whoever wins the SMU v CIN game will help TU move up a bit. Root for CIN? Win over SMU puts them in top 50? Loss knocks them off the bubble, and CIN beats UCONN next week the Huskies also gey knocked off bubble?

That's a problem when your on the bubble with conf. mates, I guess getting them off bubble is more important than polishing your own rpi at this point?

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Yeah, it's a tough call. There's a chance that SMU is our only top 50 win once it's all said and done. That would be unfortunate.
 
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Guys... you mean to tell me that they get in with their resume?

No way.... Look at their resume. It stinks! It flat out stinks. They have no reason to get into the Tourney. I'd rather see LSU. LSU is more deserving that WSU. Again... look at their resume.
 
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texcane1982

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ctt8410 said:
Yeah, it's a tough call. There's a chance that SMU is our only top 50 win once it's all said and done. That would be unfortunate.
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I can't imagine TU gets an at large with 1 top 50 win. The OCC was looking pretty good couple weeks ago, now everyone who TU beat or lost to except SMU is falling fast. (UALR, WSU, SC, Ore St, Temple, UConn, CIN, etc) Those drops have to be playing a role in the current rpi, especially WSU losing.

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bigzit

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You guys are CRAZY.
WSU will finish in the top 50 rip.
Same with Cincy, Temple and/or UCONN --- 2 of those 3 will finish in the Top 50.

***WSU - 4-6 vs. Top 100 (1 top 50 win)
***Tulsa - 8-8 vs. Top 100 (will have 3 or 4 top 50 wins by Sunday night)
 
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bigzit

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It's not about RPI right now... It's about Bubble teams winning or losing.
WSU is already NIT bound per Palm. I agree. They had a bad season folks. They cannot beat Northern Iowa or Illinois State.

***Need Oregon State to lose too!
 
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George Washington lost to Davidson. Their win over Virginia may no longer be enough.
 
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bigzit

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GW is toast. They are done for the moment.
We need Cincy to LOSE... Let Temple and UCONN win.
 
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bigzit said:
GW is toast. They are done for the moment.
We need Cincy to LOSE... Let Temple and UCONN win.
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I don't mind Temple losing actually. They don't go if they don't get the autobid. It means one more open at large as long as Tulsa, UConn, or Cincy win the tourney,
 
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