2nd half Zone

zappaa

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How did that completely eliminate Miller and Jackson?
Who “sagged” down low with Cliff?
 
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rufeelinit

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Mostly I think it was Paul or Ron depending on which side of the court the ball was on. Indiana could not get the ball (not sure they tried that hard) into the interior of the zone near the foul line. I am not sure if we were playing a straight 2-3 or some type of hybrid but it was very effective particularly with regard to slowing down TJD while protecting Cliff as well. I think it also left us in better rebounding position to avoid giving up a ton of second chances that were occurring in the first half.

For not playing zone that much we looked pretty comfortable in it with only a few breakdowns noted. I was almost a little surprised that we went back to man to man at the end as that seemed to result in them getting some open three looks again as we were probably focused on denying the paint.
 

bitnez

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Great call by Pike, and bad adjustment by Woodson. IU did not consistently try to get the ball to the high post. And when they did it was Thompson rather than Jackson. They were content to take second half jumpers. Granted, they were open looks because we packed it in but when they aren’t falling you need to run some different sets.
 

Doteman

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Our length is really apparent and helpful in the zone, it was smothering and there was nowhere to go inside with the ball.
 
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RUskoolie

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I always loved playing zone. You conserve so much energy and just wear the other guys down.
 

Jtung230

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We are a better zone D team than man because of Geo and Paul. But it does take away our DPOY advantage. Indian just couldn’t shoot their way out of it and Cliff roaming the paint is scary.
 
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richthedentist

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Mostly I think it was Paul or Ron depending on which side of the court the ball was on. Indiana could not get the ball (not sure they tried that hard) into the interior of the zone near the foul line. I am not sure if we were playing a straight 2-3 or some type of hybrid but it was very effective particularly with regard to slowing down TJD while protecting Cliff as well. I think it also left us in better rebounding position to avoid giving up a ton of second chances that were occurring in the first half.

For not playing zone that much we looked pretty comfortable in it with only a few breakdowns noted. I was almost a little surprised that we went back to man to man at the end as that seemed to result in them getting some open three looks again as we were probably focused on denying the paint.
Its almost a hybrid type match up the only time it really hurt us was the late 3 when Geo left his side of the court as he was caught watching the ball
 

kcg88

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It "worked" because Parker Stewart shot 2-9 on three pointers (1-7 before the final minute I think). It's a gamble... probably the right move since TJD was so good early. Davison and Hepburn combined to hit 6-12 against us the game before. Sometimes you get torched like that.
 

ImBadRU

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They got a lot of good looks when we went to zone, I think they got a lot of shots that they wanted, but like we often do, they missed them.
 

Big boy stan

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I think our zone defense has been good all year. Problem was that we have struggled terribly in rebounding while playing zone. In past games we were able to force bad shots but an offensive rebound and put back negated the advantage. Did not have that problem last night and that was the difference.

I do agree that the makeup of the team would suggest more zone play and Caleb is smart enough to expand his zone when its to RU's advantage
 

NightKnight

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That's the 2-3 that everyone had played since biddy-ball. For Pike it usually reverts to man-to-man with under 10 on the shot clock. I thought Indiana would have movement and ball movement practiced to break it down. It's pretty basic. Guess they chose to practice something else that week last summer.
 

zappaa

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Hard to believe when Paul gets jammed up inside after a few pivots and head fakes, there’s no one wide open on the perimeter
 

Scarlet Shack

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My ONE criticism of playing the zone of Pike ….

I really want us to not always play the same zone defense out of a time out after we have been playing it ….

Opponents spend part of that time out figuring out how to solve the last thing they saw in our zone to counter what’s working for us

After a time out …

We should man up one possession out of a time out after playing the Zone, maybe two, and then switch back to the zone to confuse them and make what was said in the time not as easy reset
 
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Jtung230

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Hard to believe when Paul gets jammed up inside after a few pivots and head fakes, there’s no one wide open on the perimeter
Teams have adjusted and are willing for PM to beat them one on one. Right strategy so far.
 

MadRU

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If you watch close, we start the zone but then switch back to man matchups. Interesting concept. You can call it a hybrid zone, but looks more zone to man.

Offense sees the zone, sets up their zone offense, then we switch to man concepts.
 
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Degaz-RU

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If you watch close, we start the zone but then switch back to man matchups. Interesting concept. You can call it a hybrid zone, but looks more zone to man.

Offense sees the zone, sets up their zone offense, then we switch to man concepts.
Matchup zone perhaps? My father-in-law, who coached high school basketball for years, raves about the matchup, because it's difficult for offenses to identify initially, and then hard to navigate around.
 
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Scangg

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Rutgers should play more zone because their players don't have the lateral quickness to play man to man defense for extended periods of time.
Agreed in certain matchups especially but should be thrown in more

Anyone get scared when we switched back to man late in the game?
Yes

Teams have adjusted and are willing for PM to beat them one on one. Right strategy so far.
Before this it was working to double Paul. Last bunch of games everything is working. Paul has struggled and needs to find his game. Attack quicker with purpose. Back to over dribbling and analyzing waiting for someone to cut while everyone stands and stares
 

MadRU

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Matchup zone perhaps? My father-in-law, who coached high school basketball for years, raves about the matchup, because it's difficult for offenses to identify initially, and then hard to navigate around.
Looks like it starts as a matchup zone. But after a certain time we follow players through the lane which is man. We don’t hand off the the teammate in that area.

Would definitely call it a matchup to man. The big plus for us is we pretty much have 4 players that can guard any of the opponents 4 players. Whoever you are closest to becomes your man. Cliff just has to stay with the center who in this game was not an outside threat so he could remain low.