26th in first coaches poll

[Predestined]

two votes from Tennessee at 25.

Oh well, keep it under the radar.

 

[patdog]

I'm OK with that. We didn't handle the hype of being highly ranked last year. Really, historically we rarely do. I'll be shocked if we aren't ranked at the end of the season.

 

[coach66]

Sounds about right. We have some things to prove and we need to get it done.

nm

 

[archdog]

two votes from Tennessee at 25.

Oh well, keep it under the radar.

So are we 7th in the west on that list?

 

[maroonmania]

So are we 7th in the west on that list?

Believe we are 6th, I didn't see TA&M anywhere in the Top 25.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

6th! Ahead of A&M.

 

[Seinfeld]

I think that we're going to be better than that, but I can't really blame the media or coaches. Yeah, we were #1 for 5 weeks last year, blah blah blah, but during the last 4 games of last season, we also blew a golden opportunity against Bama and then completely **** the bed against OM and GTech.

We can all blame this or that all we want, but in the eyes of a lot of people, we had three opportunities to really prove ourselves towards the end of last season as a legit power, and we did not. Man, I had forgotten how awful we looked against Ark as well up until I watched the replay the other night.

 

[MSUDC11]

We didn't play well at the end of the year, but it's not like we just completely unraveled.

All three of our losses were away from home against teams that made major bowl games.

We had chances to win each of those games, but it's not like the other teams sucked. And none of those games were at home.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

I wonder how much a discount we're getting for having Manny Diaz at DC. I'm not saying he's a bad coach (I think he's better than Collins), but how many voters see that and say, "Oh, they got the guy who got fired at Texas after giving up 500 rushing yards to BYU?"

 

[ShrubDog]

This will be the highest Pre season ranking we will have for many years.

I like being an underdog

 

[coach66]

I agree with your premise but I do think we played pretty poorly our last three

games and that deservedly impacted these ratings.

 

[patdog]

I really don't think we played well at all after we got the #1 ranking. Only game we looked good in after that was Vandy, and how much of that was us playing good vs. just us playing Vandy. We did not handle the hype well at all.

 

[patdog]

I doubt if many of the voters even know who our defensive coordinator is.

 

[MaroonNation]

We didn't play well at the end of the year, but it's not like we just completely unraveled.

All three of our losses were away from home against teams that made major bowl games.

We had chances to win each of those games, but it's not like the other teams sucked. And none of those games were at home.

Ole Miss got trucked by Arkansas, beat by LSU. The Egg Bowl was a have to win for Beaver. Then they got absolutely embarrass by a TCU team that could have hung 100 on them. Ole Miss is ranked 15th?

 

[ShrubDog]

They are 15th because most of voters are christians not scientologists.

 

[GloryDawg]

Ole Miss got trucked by Arkansas, beat by LSU. The Egg Bowl was a have to win for Beaver. Then they got absolutely embarrass by a TCU team that could have hung 100 on them. Ole Miss is ranked 15th?

Didn't they start last season at 15 or so? If so what does that tell you about this team which is suspose to be the greatest college football team in the history of Mississippi.

 

[fishwater99]

I think that we're going to be better than that, but I can't really blame the media or coaches. Yeah, we were #1 for 5 weeks last year, blah blah blah, but during the last 4 games of last season, we also blew a golden opportunity against Bama and then completely **** the bed against OM and GTech.

We can all blame this or that all we want, but in the eyes of a lot of people, we had three opportunities to really prove ourselves towards the end of last season as a legit power, and we did not. Man, I had forgotten how awful we looked against Ark as well up until I watched the replay the other night.

This!!!!

 

[archdog]

It really doesn't matter where we are or UM, until 1 of us beats LSU, Auburn, and Alabama in the same season it's not going to matter. Preseason rankings only matter to set your teams attitude for the beginning of the season. Let the team get focused and playing with a chip on their shoulder. LSU doesn't know what is coming their way. No number 5 to pick on in our secondary this year.

 

[Sandman.sixpack]

GloryDawg, I haven't heard anyone say OM is "suspose to be the greatest college football team in the history of Mississippi". Where did you get that? Last year they were preseason ranked about #20 and that's pretty close to where they ended up.
I agree w Archdog... doesn't really matter where we are ranked preseason. If we win like we did last year, we'll move up quickly just like last year.

 

[MSUDC11]

We would probably move into the Top 20 with a win against LSU and then be somewhere in the teens when we go to Auburn. Find a way to steal that one and we are a Top 10 team by the beginning of October.

Easier said than done, of course. But I do think we beat LSU and have a very good chance to start 7-1 before a tough November.

 

[DancingRabbit]

It's OK if you come out of the closet. Rebels are allowed to post here.

nm

 

[BossDawg78]

Ole Miss got trucked by Arkansas, beat by LSU. The Egg Bowl was a have to win for Beaver. Then they got absolutely embarrass by a TCU team that could have hung 100 on them. Ole Miss is ranked 15th?

But, but but......CROOTIN'!!1!!1

 

[Sandman.sixpack]

Dancing Rabbit.... I'm more Dog than you'll ever be. Been going to games since the Tommy Pharr, Frank Dowsing, Robert Bell days. I just never have HATED OM.
I have a close family member who went to OM and I have lots of buddies from high school who went there. Havent heard any of them say they think "OM will have the greatest team in history of Mississippi".
I am a Bulldog, but I don't find it necessary to hate anybody.
If you wanna hate 'em....go ahead! Lots of their fans hate us too. Doesn't make it right. I'm just not into the "Build us up by tearing others down" philosophy. We can both be good....like last season when we got to #1 and they were #3 and our state got so much favorable attention.
If you disagree, then that's your prerogative, but don't question my loyalties just because I don't hate 'em.

 

[Sandman.sixpack]

MSUDC..... I think we can do just that! We did it that way last fall. I don't think we were even ranked at all preseason. Beating LSU springboarded us into the rankings and beating AU put us at #1.
That's why I don't put too much stock in these preseason rankings.
If we take care of business on the field like we did last year, everything will shake out.

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

Part of you is a tsun fan. That makes your loyalties questionable where im from.

 

[amcdan2000]

Didnt think we would even be this high. Arent we the worst above Vandy?

 

[HD6]

That's a media vote. This is a coaches poll.

 

[msstate7]

I wonder how much a discount we're getting for having Manny Diaz at DC. I'm not saying he's a bad coach (I think he's better than Collins), but how many voters see that and say, "Oh, they got the guy who got fired at Texas after giving up 500 rushing yards to BYU?"

Are the same voters dropping lsu for having that guy that Clemson run off?

 

[DancingRabbit]

I graduated from State in 1978. I have relatives and friends that went to

Ole Miss. I don't hate any of them, or you for posing as a Bulldog.

I do become annoyed when Ole Miss fans pose as Bulldogs here so they can moralize about how we're such bad people because we want Ole Miss to fail.

You can continue your charade if you wish, but when half of your posts are in defense of Ole Miss that just doesn't pass the smell test.

You've been posting here for about 2 years and I've known you were an Ole Miss fan since this one:

I've never seen Ole Miss ever do any self promotion about the Grove. The rest of the nation does it for them: Sports Illustrated: "The Holy Grail of Tailgating" NY Times: "The Mecca of All Tailgating" Sporting News: "Like the Kentucky Derby on Steroids"
Fans of virtually every school except us routinely say it's a "Bucket List" experience. Everyone in Texas is still buzzing about their time in the Grove last year in Oxford. They don't have to do any self promotion…. Everybody else does it for them!
Doesn't bother me…. we've got something to be proud of too with the Junction. But let's face it… it ain't the Grove!

No Dawg is going to be able to quote all those remarks about the grooooooove.

So Uncle Ruckus remarks about Ole Miss fans' obsession with STARS and you reply for Ole Miss.

Uncle Ruckus..... to be honest about it, we get a lot more excited about signing 4 and 5 star guys like Chris Jones or Leo Lewis than we do three star players. Freeze has won two out of three Egg Bowls, so he's not just about recruiting only. Crowell sounds like a solid player and I hope we get him. But it won't be the same as it was flipping Leo Lewis! Do you really think OM fanbase is the only fanbase in America that would rather have 4 & 5 star signees than 3 star recruits??

And you like to brag on Hugh Freeze a lot.

Freeze was #1 on Florida's short list. Whether we like it or not, he's one of the hottest young coaches in America along with Gary Patterson, Jim Mora, Gus Malzhan, etc. The Bears were lucky he is from Mississippi and apparently wants to stay in Oxford.

But you like to bag on Dan Mullen.

The real irony in this situation is that Dan gets really pissed when a commit breaks his commitment and goes with another school. He tells kids to not commit until they are 100% committed and are not going to look around, etc. This kid kept his word. He was asked to graduate early and he got that done too. Grayshirting means that he would have to wait an entire year before enrolling in his case. Changing the deal to a grayshirt is the same thing as yanking the offer.

Dan is a meany but Ole Miss is not like that ...

This story was covered in the press several months ago. So why is there now a need to run the story again?
Severe broken leg. May be a year or more before the kid hits the field. Ole Miss then asked the kid to take a greyshirt (promise of a scholarship after one semester) and he agreed. The high school coach thought it was a good idea too.
Totally different from the Liggins deal. No injury and no greyshirt offered. We just re-evaluated this fall and determined we can sign better players. So we dropped him.

If you are a dog ...

 

[BiscuitEater]

Have to agree ..

If you disagree, then that's your prerogative, but don't question my loyalties just because I don't hate 'em.

with DancingRabbit on this one. No one is saying that 'you have to hate 'em. But then again .. you keep going out of your way, time after time .. to DEFEND them. Big difference.

 

[fishwater99]

That's a media vote. This is a coaches poll.

When is the AP Poll out?

 

[Hump4Hoops]

Excellent work. That should put a bow(tie) on it.

 

[dawgstudent]

For some reason - I am thinking it comes out in October.

 

[Junction John]

Point... Winner

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[the dog is on the loose]

I'm more concerned about us staying healthy than anything right now. If we do then we can have a chance to be pretty good. If we lose dak or any offensive linemen then our season could be a bust as we are thin in some areas unlike bama or auburn and such.

 

[Sandman.sixpack]

In two years time, I did make those five posts. But you left off the dozens and dozens of positive posts I've made about Dan and how he and staff are so good at developing players, etc. Made posts yesterday about Eiland and how our O Line recruiting is picking up. I'm certainly on record as being a huge Dan Mullen supporter. I think Scott is a great AD and have said so. I really like where we are going in hoops now. I do think we can do and deserve better than the job that Cohen is doing and I'm ready for a change there and have said so on here.
So I don't just blindly say everything is 100% perfect at State like you do.
90% of my posts are positive posts about State. You forgot to mention any of those. You and several on here want something bad to happen to OM everyday. I'm not as obsessed with OM as you are and I'd rather focus on all the great things going on in Starkville than worrying about Tunsil or the Grove, etc like you.

 

[HD6]

August 23

 

[Drebin]

games and that deservedly impacted these ratings.

I think these ratings are impacted more by looking at how many seniors we lost from last year's squad.

 

[Drebin]

That's gonna leave a mark.

 

[RockstarFromMars]

I don't understand the disrespect. If your OL comes together you have a great shot at the West as long as #15 is healthy.