'26 NFL Mock Drafts thread

BobPSU92

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espn has Drew Allar going in the 4th round to the Dolphins

QBs projected ahead of Allar: mendoza, Ty Simpson, and Garrett Nussmeier.

 
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Seems about right. Strong Arm and good size but questionable accuracy.
I wouldn't take him even in the fourth round; I saw enough of his inconsistencies even against mostly overmatched opponents. However, it does appear as if some team will be duped by his physical attributes and workouts in a t-shirt and shorts to take him probably as high as the fourth round. That tells you more about what a poor crop of qbs there are in this draft rather than about how good of a qb Allar really is.
 

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This is what drives me crazy. How does this commentator know that Allar didn't get proper training at PSU? Maybe the pupil just couldn't apply what he was taught. I mean, in parts of almost every game, he looked like the best qb in the country, and then in other parts of every game, he totally lost his mechanics and poise. I guess he was soley responsible for the parts of games when he played well, and the coaches were responsible for the parts of games in which he played poorly.
 
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This is what drives me crazy. How does this commentator know that Allar didn't get proper training at PSU? Maybe the pupil just couldn't apply what he was taught. I mean, in parts of almost every game, he looked like the best qb in the country, and then in other parts of every game, he totally lost his mechanics and poise. I guess he was soley responsible for the parts of games when he played well, and the coaches were responsible for the parts of games in which he played poorly.
That's the best part of having it both ways, like when a securities analyst says of a company's prospects that he is "cautiously optimistic". If they don't execute, he is cautious; if they do, he is optimistic.
 
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This is what drives me crazy. How does this commentator know that Allar didn't get proper training at PSU? Maybe the pupil just couldn't apply what he was taught. I mean, in parts of almost every game, he looked like the best qb in the country, and then in other parts of every game, he totally lost his mechanics and poise. I guess he was soley responsible for the parts of games when he played well, and the coaches were responsible for the parts of games in which he played poorly.

Yeah, who knows? Either Allar is a bust, couldn't put it all together, or was overrated. He clearly did not get better. Compare to McSorley who is the best QB of the Franklin era by a mile.
 
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Yeah, who knows? Either Allar is a bust, couldn't put it all together, or was overrated. He clearly did not get better. Compare to McSorley who is the best QB of the Franklin era by a mile.
McSorely certainly is, but I think PSU fans don’t appreciate Clifford enough. He had a skill set with a ceiling, but he was solid.
 
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McSorely certain is, but I think PSU fans don’t appreciate Clifford enough. He had a skill set with a ceiling, but he was solid.
I appreciate Clifford much more now than I did when he was playing. There's no doubt in my mind that we would've beaten ND with him at qb. I think that he is one of the most underrated players in PSU history.
 

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This is what drives me crazy. How does this commentator know that Allar didn't get proper training at PSU? Maybe the pupil just couldn't apply what he was taught. I mean, in parts of almost every game, he looked like the best qb in the country, and then in other parts of every game, he totally lost his mechanics and poise. I guess he was soley responsible for the parts of games when he played well, and the coaches were responsible for the parts of games in which he played poorly.
And I’m quite sure Allar has had personal coaching as well…did that guy not train him properly?
 
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Fourth-round NFL rookie contracts are four-year deals, typically valued between $4.5 million and $4.8 million as of 2024, generally including a signing bonus of approximately $800,000–$900,000. These contracts are primarily slot-value deals, with the signing bonus, but limited guaranteed money compared to top-round picks.

plus his nil, very happy for him.
 
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This is what drives me crazy. How does this commentator know that Allar didn't get proper training at PSU? Maybe the pupil just couldn't apply what he was taught. I mean, in parts of almost every game, he looked like the best qb in the country, and then in other parts of every game, he totally lost his mechanics and poise. I guess he was soley responsible for the parts of games when he played well, and the coaches were responsible for the parts of games in which he played poorly.
Yep that’s how it works on this board. Despite hearing repeatedly from his coaches that he needed to work on his footwork and mechanics, it’s their fault for not doing better by him.
 

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This is what drives me crazy. How does this commentator know that Allar didn't get proper training at PSU? Maybe the pupil just couldn't apply what he was taught. I mean, in parts of almost every game, he looked like the best qb in the country, and then in other parts of every game, he totally lost his mechanics and poise. I guess he was soley responsible for the parts of games when he played well, and the coaches were responsible for the parts of games in which he played poorly.
Because Franklin has no idea how to work with a pocket passer and had him running zone read
 

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And I’m quite sure Allar has had personal coaching as well…did that guy not train him properly?
All the personal training doesn't help when you're instructed to underthrow deep balls, never take a risk and play in an offense that you're not suited for.
 

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For the record....its Allar's fault for staying at Penn State. Loyalty came back to bite him hard. He needed to enter the draft after his junior year or portal. He didn't. That's all on him.
 
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Fourth round pick, why not?
His draft spot is going to be very interesting. Like the quote above that criticized his development stated "yet he's my favorite QB" other than Mendoza. Simpson will be the #2 QB off the board (probably to the Jets in the 2nd) but after that anything can happen--Allar could go Day 2 or get very tired of waiting for his name to be called.

He, more than anyone, can't afford to go to a team like the Jets or Browns. Some can survive that even if it takes a while longer (see Darnold or even Geno Smith) but for Allar that would be a death sentence--just like Hack.
 
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His draft spot is going to be very interesting. Like the quote above that criticized his development stated "yet he's my favorite QB" other than Mendoza. Simpson will be the #2 QB off the board (probably to the Jets in the 2nd) but after that anything can happen--Allar could go Day 2 or get very tired of waiting for his name to be called.

He, more than anyone, can't afford to go to a team like the Jets or Browns. Some can survive that even if it takes a while longer (see Darnold or even Geno Smith) but for Allar that would be a death sentence--just like Hack.
Agreed. I would be happy if he got selected by the Rams or the Steelers.
 
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All the personal training doesn't help when you're instructed to underthrow deep balls, never take a risk and play in an offense that you're not suited for.
Really? Cmon, Allar has no pocket presence and was sloppy with footwork. Franklin's fault was not holding him accountable but the kid was coached
 

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Really? Cmon, Allar has no pocket presence and was sloppy with footwork. Franklin's fault was not holding him accountable but the kid was coached
Franklin ran a scheme not suited for him. He was always held accountable...too much so hence afraid of making mistakes. Scouts all seem in agreement. The only ones denying it are Penn State fans that set unrealistic expectations and like dual threat QBs
 

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Terry Bradshaw. But this time someone will be able to hear from a great one each day in practice.
Are you fogetting about the best qb in Steelers' history who played from 2004 to 2021, won two Super Bowls and made it to a third, and is a future HOF player?
 
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Are you fogetting about the best qb in Steelers' history who played from 2004 to 2021, won two Super Bowls and made it to a third, and is a future HOF player?
Ben Roethlisberger was selected by the Pittsburgh Steelers as the 11th overall pick in the first round of the 2004 NFL Draft out of Miami (Ohio). As a key part of a legendary QB class, he was the third quarterback taken.

not talking ready made, talking developing a flyer draft pick
 

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Ben Roethlisberger was selected by the Pittsburgh Steelers as the 11th overall pick in the first round of the 2004 NFL Draft out of Miami (Ohio). As a key part of a legendary QB class, he was the third quarterback taken.

not talking ready made, talking developing a flyer draft pick
He developed from mainly a game manager with a great running game in the 2000s to a prolific passer in the Killer Bs era in the mid to late 2010s.
 

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Are you fogetting about the best qb in Steelers' history who played from 2004 to 2021, won two Super Bowls and made it to a third, and is a future HOF player?
He developed himself. Bradshaw had to work on some things and develop.
 

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Well, they now have a head coach who developed a future HOF qb and another qb who has set passing records for Dallas.
LOL. Yeah, that was all McCarthy.
Steeler fans complained for years about Tomlin and now have a coach that is actually worse.
 

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LOL. Yeah, that was all McCarthy.
Steeler fans complained for years about Tomlin and now have a coach that is actually worse.
McCarthy has been a very good head coach. He won a Super Bowl with GB and had several really good regular seasons with Dallas. The fact is that he was the head coach at GB when Rodgers won his Super Bowl and had most of his great seasons, and he also was the head coach at Dallas when Prescott became a prolific NFL passer.
 
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LOL. Yeah, that was all McCarthy.
Steeler fans complained for years about Tomlin and now have a coach that is actually worse.
I think the Steelers hiring McCarthy was incredibly stupid but it's odd you don't give coaches any credit for developing good QBs. Even first round picks need developed.

Tomlin needed to go--you can't go a decade without a playoff win.
 

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Agreed. I would be happy if he got selected by the Rams or the Steelers.
I’ve heard some commentators on XM say Nussmeier is the best QB after Mendoza. Apparently, he played injured all last year which drastically altered his season. I’d be ok with the Steelers taking him as well. He has football pedigree from his dad.
 

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McCarthy has been a very good head coach. He won a Super Bowl with GB and had several really good regular seasons with Dallas. The fact is that he was the head coach at GB when Rodgers won his Super Bowl and had most of his great seasons, and he also was the head coach at Dallas when Prescott became a prolific NFL passer.
Other recent super bowl winners include Doug Pedersen, Gary Kubiak, and Bruce Arians. Winning a SB doesn't automatically make you a great coach. Look at all of other disappointments with GB and Dallas. And Dak had already thrown for his season high yardage prior to MM arrival.

Get ready for mediocrity in the steel city.