233 players enter the draft

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"The NBA announced Tuesday night that 233 players — 175 players from colleges and other educational institutions and 58 international players — have filed as early entry candidates for the 2019 NBA Draft presented by State Farm.
That list does not include college seniors.
Only 60 players will get drafted on June 20 at Barclays Center."

Good luck to these young men. The new rule change allows these guys to follow their dream, or just get advice from a new face. Hopefully the 60% who got negative feedback return to improve their game.
 
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DelkBowl

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They should have a G-League team attached to every NBA team. Have the NBA fund them so they can pay them better. Then call up and down as they choose. Of course this would hurt the NCAA but it would probably be a good thing for the players.
 
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oldsports_

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Now, add the 150+ transfers, coaches are pulling their hair out. Ala, Arizona St, VT had multiple kids jump ship. Crazy times!
 

BoulderCat_rivals187983

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So 3/4’s of them will not get drafted including EJ and Nic. I have to believe both will come back, but these days who knows. Neither was in either one of the mocks I just looked at, nor was Blackshear.
 

caneintally

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there will be 15-30 of those guys returning I would imagine but still that is a ton. I honestly think if you are someone like EJ , Richards , Hagans ect you should do this as more information and playing against your peers never hurt. The only reason I could think to not to is if you are sure you are going to be a 4 year player or you are afraid you will get behind on school work .
 
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They should have a G-League team attached to every NBA team. Have the NBA fund them so they can pay them better. Then call up and down as they choose. Of course this would hurt the NCAA but it would probably be a good thing for the players.

I'm skeptical the G-League will ever see decent player salaries. No one cares about it. I saw the G-League finals on ESPNU (lol) and it was sad how few people were there. It was at Stony Brook's arena and it definitely had less attendance than a typical Stony Brook home game.
 
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DelkBowl

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I'm skeptical the G-League will ever see decent player salaries. No one cares about it. I saw the G-League finals on ESPNU (lol) and it was sad how few people were there. It was at Stony Brook's arena and it definitely had less attendance than a typical Stony Brook home game.
Yeah i agree but i would just like to see them run a farm team and put the nba teams in charge of them. They could place players down and up based on need in their own system. Run it the way they want to and see if they can develop more talent.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Since we're on the topic of crazy adaptations:

The NCAA should allow for four years of college eligibility, regardless of amateur status. Let guys like Chris Webber return for two additional years. Watch how the ratings would sore through the roof. Kevin Garnett would get to choose a college if he wanted. Same for Kobe Bryant. Let Michael Jordan play out his final year at UNC as a 57 year old.

Bring back an over-the-hill Jamal Mashburn for his last season, Mercer for two more seasons, a kid like Rondo for two years.

People would college basketball and in the first few years of this experiment, the ratings might actually out-duel the NBA's.
 

morgousky

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Some people tried to tell the progressive brigade that all of this transfer anytime anywhere and guys leaving early would lead to absolute chaos but naw, they’ve got an answer for everything.

And of course here we are, the inmates running the asylum, disfunction, but nah, this is great.

Any more great ideas geniuses?
 

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"The NBA announced Tuesday night that 233 players — 175 players from colleges and other educational institutions and 58 international players — have filed as early entry candidates for the 2019 NBA Draft presented by State Farm.
That list does not include college seniors.
Only 60 players will get drafted on June 20 at Barclays Center."

Good luck to these young men. The new rule change allows these guys to follow their dream, or just get advice from a new face. Hopefully the 60% who got negative feedback return to improve their game.
It doesn’t work that way. If the 60%, at least 25% k ow they are not NBA capable but are ready to be paid, overseas. Perhaps 50% are justcwanting to get their name out their for next year. And the remain 25% are dreaming.

With the OAD going away, anyone with an inkling of playing in the NBA, name recognition is important.

But I say draft #68 regardless of who it is.
 
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Anyone have any idea how many college seniors are possible draftees?
 

CatFanInTheBathtub

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Some people tried to tell the progressive brigade that all of this transfer anytime anywhere and guys leaving early would lead to absolute chaos but naw, they’ve got an answer for everything.

And of course here we are, the inmates running the asylum, disfunction, but nah, this is great.

Any more great ideas geniuses?
Were you saying this about 15 years ago? Because that's when pretty much all of us knew that the NBA age rule was going to screw everything up. And transfers have been going on since before you were born.
 

TBCat

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Yeah i agree but i would just like to see them run a farm team and put the nba teams in charge of them. They could place players down and up based on need in their own system. Run it the way they want to and see if they can develop more talent.
Best idea would be to let them be drafted and have the NBA pay them and let them return to college. Solves multiple issues at once for both college and the NBA. No need to develop a G league when colleges have been doing it for free all this time.
 

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They should have a G-League team attached to every NBA team. Have the NBA fund them so they can pay them better. Then call up and down as they choose. Of course this would hurt the NCAA but it would probably be a good thing for the players.

That’s what they’re already doing. I believe there will be one G-league team for each NBA team within the next couple years. Just recently they increased salaries and started the two way contracts. They are also starting contracts for players ineligible for the NBA next season.
 

jrpross_rivals

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Best idea would be to let them be drafted and have the NBA pay them and let them return to college. Solves multiple issues at once for both college and the NBA. No need to develop a G league when colleges have been doing it for free all this time.
Yeah but the committee has this bizarre idea that maintaining “amateur status” somehow keeps them on some imaginary moral high ground. It’s a complete farce but I don’t see them ever giving it up.
 

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"The NBA announced Tuesday night that 233 players — 175 players from colleges and other educational institutions and 58 international players — have filed as early entry candidates for the 2019 NBA Draft presented by State Farm.
That list does not include college seniors.
Only 60 players will get drafted on June 20 at Barclays Center."

Good luck to these young men. The new rule change allows these guys to follow their dream, or just get advice from a new face. Hopefully the 60% who got negative feedback return to improve their game.
Looks like at least 133 probably won't get anything from the experience.
Top 60 to the combine
Top 100 to g league combine.
Doubt any kid not invited to combine will get his expenses paid for a team workout.
The NBA is not going to devote the time to give that many kids a real eval.
Ashton did the right thing because he knows that this is not his year so he's at the Craft Center working on his game while Nick and EJ are goofing off.
This testing the waters that Nick and EJ are doing is not going to impact their 2020 draft position one bit
That will be totally determined by what they do on the court.
I know some will disagree but damn you gotta cut it off somewhere.
Do we really want 233 to become 500 next year?
 
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TBCat

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Yeah but the committee has this bizarre idea that maintaining “amateur status” somehow keeps them on some imaginary moral high ground. It’s a complete farce but I don’t see them ever giving it up.
The same moral ground that now has the FBI involved? The committee is just going to have to get over this. The concept of amateurism that existed back in 1908 has been dead for a hundred years now. There's no going back to that.

I do have problems with letting schools directly pay the players as that opens a whole new can of worms. But forbidding the player to trade on his name or get paid outside his college team is stupid. And there are already exceptions that the NCAA does allowed such as playing minor league baseball and college football.
 

bthaunert

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That number is actually down from 181 underclassmen last year.
 
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JC43

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They should have a G-League team attached to every NBA team. Have the NBA fund them so they can pay them better. Then call up and down as they choose. Of course this would hurt the NCAA but it would probably be a good thing for the players.
Will destroy college basketball.
No, not a good idea...
Smaller medit mkt can't support it. All the logistics in travel, scheduling, insurance?
Have star players be 'injured' till playoffs
College ball is diluted enough, ncaa has made sure of that. Why let the nba profit upon UK Basketball's demise
 
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JC43

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Is that 25% chance of getting drafted? For each player
60/233? 25%
 

Poetax

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So 3/4’s of them will not get drafted including EJ and Nic. I have to believe both will come back, but these days who knows. Neither was in either one of the mocks I just looked at, nor was Blackshear.



And at this stage of their playing career, neither are as good as Blackshear, even though I think EJ has the potential to be if he stays in college.
 

DelkBowl

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Will destroy college basketball.
No, not a good idea...
Smaller medit mkt can't support it. All the logistics in travel, scheduling, insurance?
Have star players be 'injured' till playoffs
College ball is diluted enough, ncaa has made sure of that. Why let the nba profit upon UK Basketball's demise
It wouldn’t hurt as much as you think. These rosters will fill up and they would likely take only a few players each year as they try to develop others. On the other side I don’t believe the NBA cares if the NCAA is hurting.
 

BoulderCat_rivals187983

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And at this stage of their playing career, neither are as good as Blackshear, even though I think EJ has the potential to be if he stays in college.
I totally agree, I believe EJ has a lot of upside. Hopefully he’s listening to what actual NBA guys are telling him he needs to improve on, comes back, does so and helps himself and our Cats. Win win like PJ.
 
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So 3/4’s of them will not get drafted including EJ and Nic. I have to believe both will come back, but these days who knows. Neither was in either one of the mocks I just looked at, nor was Blackshear.

Honestly Richards should probably stay in go to the developmental league and move on. 1 more year at UK isn’t going to do much for him
 
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JC43

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Honestly Richards should probably stay in go to the developmental league and move on. 1 more year at UK isn’t going to do much for him
Horrible take. Guy has been playing basketball for bout 7 yrs. He is at the best university producing big men in today's NBA.
I don't get some fans, we can't get top 5, we can't retain players, Cal recruits over his players, Richards needs to go and stay so he can go to Gleague..asinine I tell ya. We only have 7 scholarship players we know for sure about can't lose those 2.
Richards has it all, mentally, he has to believe it. He didn't regress last season so he will grow and show us all...I hope
 
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Since we're on the topic of crazy adaptations:

The NCAA should allow for four years of college eligibility, regardless of amateur status. Let guys like Chris Webber return for two additional years. Watch how the ratings would sore through the roof. Kevin Garnett would get to choose a college if he wanted. Same for Kobe Bryant. Let Michael Jordan play out his final year at UNC as a 57 year old.

Bring back an over-the-hill Jamal Mashburn for his last season, Mercer for two more seasons, a kid like Rondo for two years.

People would college basketball and in the first few years of this experiment, the ratings might actually out-duel the NBA's.
This is the most insane thing ive ever heard... and i love it. Not because it would happen, but because of the sheer madness of it all. Id watch every game possible.
 

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All 233 of them truly believe they are first round picks. Gonna be a whole of disappointment come draft night.
 

bthaunert

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there will be 15-30 of those guys returning I would imagine but still that is a ton.
There will be way more than that return. Here is the number the past few years:

2018 - 181 players originally declared. 77 entered the draft.

2017 - 138 players originally declared. 64 entered the draft.

2016 - 116 players originally declared. 59 entered the draft.
 

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Horrible take. Guy has been playing basketball for bout 7 yrs. He is at the best university producing big men in today's NBA.
I don't get some fans, we can't get top 5, we can't retain players, Cal recruits over his players, Richards needs to go and stay so he can go to Gleague..asinine I tell ya. We only have 7 scholarship players we know for sure about can't lose those 2.
Richards has it all, mentally, he has to believe it. He didn't regress last season so he will grow and show us all...I hope

Playing 8-10 minutes a game for UK vs playing in the developmental league is a “horrible take”? Let’s hope he get the horrible take then. He’s not progressed much in two years we need the spot for someone who will
 

JC43

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Playing 8-10 minutes a game for UK vs playing in the developmental league is a “horrible take”? Let’s hope he get the horrible take then. He’s not progressed much in two years we need the spot for someone who will
He has Kentucky on his chest that's enough for me. If he doesn't make it to the big show he is a UK player and I will always root for him to succeed
 
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It doesn’t work that way. If the 60%, at least 25% k ow they are not NBA capable but are ready to be paid, overseas. Perhaps 50% are justcwanting to get their name out their for next year. And the remain 25% are dreaming.

With the OAD going away, anyone with an inkling of playing in the NBA, name recognition is important.

But I say draft #68 regardless of who it is.
When is the OAD going away??..Only talk I heard was to go straight out of school..That has nothing to stop the OAD..