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[57stratdawg]

Kentucky #13. Auburn #7, LSU #15.

 

[coach66]

Very nice accomplishment with the hurdles that have been put in front of this

team.

 

[57stratdawg]

Yeah, no doubt. We've had some bats wake up.

Tall task coming to town this weekend. UK leads the SEC in damn near every offensive category.

 

[Shmuley]

Sets up perfectly for a sweep. A UK sweep. #goingfullrugb

 

[MSUDC11]

Butch and Mingione are killing it, as I knew they would. Just didn't think it would happen so fast. We get both of them at home this year and as of now we'd be the underdog in both series. Not sure many saw that coming.

Ole Miss all the way down to 56 in the RPI now. We've really gotta stop playing all of these patsies***

 

[thekimmer]

Very good turnaround from first weekend....

Kentucky #13. Auburn #7, LSU #15.

A few other comments.

Still very worried about pitching and wish we were not playing two midweek games before taking on a good UK team.

Wow what a turnaround Thompson has done at AU in such a short time. They were a total mess when he went over there and now they are in the top 10. Its still early I know but still...

 

[Hoover Dawg]

Butch and Mingione are killing it, as I knew they would.

Killing what? Mingione is playing with Henderson's players. Butch too, it's not like he's winning with freshmen he recruited.

Get back with me in 5 years, on both of those guys. 'What Have You Done For Me Lately' strikes again.

 

[bulldogcountry1]

UK always starts strong, offensively. They play in a ballpark that balls fly out of. They tend to fall off the radar after playing good teams and playing on the road.

 

[MSUDC11]

Killing what? Mingione is playing with Henderson's players. Butch too, it's not like he's winning with freshmen he recruited.

Get back with me in 5 years, on both of those guys. 'What Have You Done For Me Lately' strikes again.

Auburn won eight conference games last year and they are 7-2 currently.

You say Mingione is winning with Henderson's players like Henderson was lighting the world on fire as a head coach. He went to two regionals in eight years and didn't go to one his last two years. Mingione has them in Top 10 right now.

You act as if those guys are Les Miles winning a national title with Nick Saban's recruits. They both inherited difficult situations and you are blind if you don't see that they are both doing really well.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

In the most respectful tone possible, I am telling you that you are wrong. Even if I wasn't, your response doesn't make sense. Arkansas was last in the SEC last year, and they are at the top now. We were last in the SEC in 2015, and won it in 2016. So it's 100% what have you done for me lately. You don't remember anything but right now. Sunny Galloway was building at Auburn, and Henderson was never really bad. He was due for a peak year as well.

Those guys winning in their first years with players none of them recruited (and are all a year older/wiser/mature) is EXACTLY like Miles winning with Saban's recruits.

I can also guarantee you that Kentucky and Auburn won't be around during nut-cutting time in June. Bank that. Congrats to those two guys, they are in the MSU family after all. But I'm not anointing them with a damned thing yet. Remember that you said they were "killing it".

 

[57stratdawg]

I hear you, but I don't see them going away this year. They may fall out of the hosting discussions though.

This is a big week for them. They play @ Louisville Tuesday night before coming here.

 

[Philly Dawg]

Butch brought in a lot of JUCO players and it's helped bring the talent level up.

 

[Confucius Say]

In the most respectful tone possible, I am telling you that you are wrong. Even if I wasn't, your response doesn't make sense. Arkansas was last in the SEC last year, and they are at the top now. We were last in the SEC in 2015, and won it in 2016. So it's 100% what have you done for me lately. You don't remember anything but right now. Sunny Galloway was building at Auburn, and Henderson was never really bad. He was due for a peak year as well.

Those guys winning in their first years with players none of them recruited (and are all a year older/wiser/mature) is EXACTLY like Miles winning with Saban's recruits.

I can also guarantee you that Kentucky and Auburn won't be around during nut-cutting time in June. Bank that. Congrats to those two guys, they are in the MSU family after all. But I'm not anointing them with a damned thing yet. Remember that you said they were "killing it".

Whaaaat? Les took over the best talent in the country and won. Auburn nor ky had anything close to that. Butch and nick have taken players that were losing, added a piece here and there, and are winning.

And Cohen and van horn are/were phenomenal coaches. So not sure what your point is there.

 

[MSUDC11]

Dear gosh I'm not saying they're the two best programs in college baseball all of the sudden. But forgive me for saying that two teams that weren't good last year being much improved this year means the coaches are doing a good job.

I stopped taking you seriously when you said Sunny Galloway was building at Auburn. That guy is a maniac. There's a reason he got fired in mid October after taking a team to a Regional. He did his absolute best to destroy that program.

Whether they recruited the players or not, Butch and Mingione are getting the most out of players who were not good last year. Sure players get better over time, but there's coaching involved in that too, you know.

Chad Girodo didn't go from the worst reliever in the SEC in 2012 to maybe the best in the nation by the end of 2013 just because he was a year older. There was definitely coaching involved that. And guess who his pitching coach was?

"Killing it" equals being much better than anyone expected them to be. Don't think you can deny that with any ounce of sanity. Give credit where credit is due.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

Sunny won his lawsuit I believe. I agree he's a maniac, but a good coach nonetheless.

 

[MSUDC11]

Sunny won his lawsuit I believe. I agree he's a maniac, but a good coach nonetheless.

All you need to know about him is that he went to three Supers in his last four years at Oklahoma (including one Omaha trip), and the OU faithful were THRILLED when he left.

He may have built something eventually at Auburn but you can't really say he's the reason Auburn is better in 2017 moreso than Butch. That would be like saying that Croom was a bigger part of us going 9-4 in 2010 than Mullen was.

Galloway won 38% of his conference games in two years, and the team of his players that was fielded immediately after he was fired went 8-22. So I don't really see this as Butch just inheriting a good situation and reaping the benefits that were sewn by the previous coaching staff. Auburn has been to two Regionals in the last 12 years.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

Butch inherited some young players who grew up. It's not that hard. Happens all the time. That's why sports are so cyclical.

 

[thekimmer]

Does the ball only fly out for UK?

 

[keffer21]

Actually, Butch, who is in year 2, is winning with mostly players he recruited and signed. He signed 2 of his 3 weekend starters and 5 of their top 6 hitters are JUCOs that Butch brought in. The jury is still out on just how successful he'll be long-term, but it's inaccurate to say he's winning with just Sonny's players is inaccurate.

 

[8dog]

The three guys with the most starts were recruited by galloway. The closer was too

butch should have very few guys on this team since he go there right before signing day in 15

 

[keffer21]

I was incorrect about the timing of Mize. Their Sunday guy is a true freshman. He knew butch was the guy when he signed, and he could've signed with numerous other schools. I'll give butch credit, similar to dan being given credit for fletcher cox. From last Friday night, their starting CF, RF, SS, DH, 3B, LF, & 2B were from the '16 signing class. He took a huge gamble signing so many JUCOs, but so far he seemed to have hit on more than he missed.

 

[8dog]

Its hard to tell withoutnseeing the signing dates. Anyone signed in nov other than elliot Anderson is likely someone he inherited

if he decided to go that juco heavy on his own thats surprising when you have time to build.

 

[HD6]

It was dismissed today.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/04/federal_judge_dismisses_lawsui.html