2027 Recruiting Thread

[Moogy]

Yup, and that is a big reason that the staff are more comfortable with Wood as he excelled vs a tougher schedule than Tabor.

Holy crap. No. Again, this is like saying playing in the MAC is tougher than playing in the Big 10. You don't realize just how silly you look/sound saying this. If this was a reason the staff was more comfortable with Wood, they should all be fired immediately. It would be THAT bad of a mistake. Granted, I don't think that's the case ... and I'm sure our staff will be at the upcoming prep Showcase Day, scouting all the premium recruits that are at the NEPSAC schools ... checking up on all the recruits they've already offered, and the new ones they'll be interested in, but haven't discovered yet.

 

[Moogy]

He's insufferable with his stance. I get that private league in MA ($50/yr+) attracts talent, but they play a top to bottom weak schedule. There are a few top private schools, but the Catholic Conf has always been the toughest in eastern MA... you add in a schedule that normally includes Everett and Brockton (back in the day) and you have top to bottom far tougher schedules. Since 2000 here is how MA D-1 champions look... more than half out of the Cath. Conference.

Everett - 8
Xaverian - 6
St Johns Prep - 4
BC High - 3 (my alma mater)
Brockton - 2

Remember Austin Prep? One of the more successful Catholic League programs across all sports for decades ...

A few years ago they did this ...

On Thursday morning, Austin Preparatory High School in Reading announced it will depart from the MIAA and join the NEPSAC, an eye-opening move that signifies the departure of one of the more renowned schools inside the association.

“The decision to join the NEPSAC is an inflection point in the history of Austin Prep,” said James Hickey, Ph. D, Head of School at Austin Preparatory. “The school’s membership in the NEPSAC creates opportunities to engage in athletic competition that maximizes the balance of academics and athletics, increasing visibility in the college athletics recruitment process, and competing at athletic facilities on par with our own.”

Austin Preparatory — a school noted for its ice hockey and baseball — will compete independently next year in all sports against mostly fellow NEPSAC schools before ultimately determining which league to enter.

“The NEPSAC presents a real opportunity for us to grow as a school academically and athletically,” Austin Preparatory athletic director Pat Driscoll said. “To be associated with a league like the NEPSAC that holds some of the premier schools in the state and in New England is special for Austin Preparatory.”


I wonder if they knew that MaxPreps and some guys who used to live here, or who live here and aren't aware of the schools that exist here, have determined that "increasing visibility in the college athletics recruitment process" by moving from MIAA to NEPSAC was all a lie, and they'd actually be taking a step back in athletic competitions?

The thing that gets me isn't that you're all so utterly and unquestionably wrong ... it's your attitude in being so wrong ... this air of superiority and condescension surrounding your ignorance ... it's crazy. I bet Austin Prep's competitiveness decreased by 600% by moving to NEPSAC, huh?

 

[Omar81]

Oh my God can this thread just get back on track? Who gives a flying crap about NEPSAC or whatever the hell it is you guys are arguing about?

 

[LMTLION]

Oh my God can this thread just get back on track? Who gives a flying crap about NEPSAC or whatever the hell it is you guys are arguing about?

I blame this all on Campbell for not landing a commit this weekend. We could be arguing about star ratings of the new recruit instead. Better yet, we need to land both Bourque and Wood and then we can ALL proclaim both Mass. leagues to be super competitive gauntlets.
In all seriousness, I think it’s realistic to predict we land Wood, Gibson, Carter Jones, and Odoh in the month of May.

 

[rigi19041]

Anyone who spends three pages debating New England high school football needs a beating.

 

[Marshall2323]

Elite 5-star EDGE ranked No. 1 Big Ten commit in 2027 class


this is what we're up against!

 

[PSU89er]

Elite 5-star EDGE ranked No. 1 Big Ten commit in 2027 class


this is what we're up against!

ITs what we have been up against for years. Actually its better now that it used to be because USC and Oregon are in the mix, and NIL is pulling kids other directions. OSU is picking up a number of three stars now. More than they used to. OSU, UGa and Bama recruit is down a fair amount since NIL has come into play.

Four or five years ago some poster on another site was whining as to why PSU couldn't beat OSU. I pulled up the top 25 recruits that had come into the big ten over the previous 4 years. 20 went to OSU, 3 went to Michigan and 2 went to Penn State. I argued that the bigger question is how PSU had been able to stay with OSU in most games when we played them. I also argued that Penn State was recruiting at a level closer to Northwestern than they were at a level closer to OSU.

Those few power schools were way ahead of everyone else, and it showed in the results at that time. They've come back toward the pack, and it has showed in the last couple of years. It doesn't hurt that the other schools are raiding thier rosters and taking their depth.

 

[RyanSnyder]

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[Nits1989]

I can't keep revenue sharing and NIL straight. Kraft mentioned $30 million to spend. If that's the total for revenue sharing and NIL, with 105 players, its less than $300,000 per player.

 

[RyanSnyder]

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[LMTLION]

I can't keep revenue sharing and NIL straight. Kraft mentioned $30 million to spend. If that's the total for revenue sharing and NIL, with 105 players, its less than $300,000 per player.

The $30 mil figure is correct for rev share + NIL, which supposedly places us somewhere around 15th in the country, maybe even slightly lower than that. That probably means we’ll continue recruiting in that same range over time as we did with Franklin, with the hope that Campbell can continue to find those diamonds in the rough type players that he found for ISU. I believe only 50 or 60 of that 105 player roster receive significant financial compensation. The rest get little to no compensation. I believe this is the most popular model in P4.

 

[LB99]

The $30 mil figure is correct for rev share + NIL, which supposedly places us somewhere around 15th in the country, maybe even slightly lower than that. That probably means we’ll continue recruiting in that same range over time as we did with Franklin, with the hope that Campbell can continue to find those diamonds in the rough type players that he found for ISU. I believe only 50 or 60 of that 105 player roster receive significant financial compensation. The rest get little to no compensation. I believe this is the most popular model in P4.

Those not receiving much NIL/revenue share still get a scholarship, right?

 

[LMTLION]

Those not receiving much NIL/revenue share still get a scholarship, right?

They can still get a scholarship, but I do not believe they always do get a full or partial scholarship. The information on all of this is still pretty darn murky. I wish it was better regulated and reported across the college football universe. I have gone back-and-forth on my opinions on all of this. At one point, I thought it was a bit of an equalizer from top to bottom in college football, but now I’m not so sure with the handful of “blank check” billionaire funded programs. There’s the Oregon and Texas schools class. Then there is the ND, OSU, Georgia, etc class of schools rounding out the top 12-15. We’re in the next class, unfortunately from what I’ve read (again, I don’t know, only what I’m reading from actual insiders and donors.) Kraft has done a poor job managing donation efforts between the stadium and nil. I get as frustrated as you do by all of the NIL nonsense.

 

[DaytonRickster]

Those not receiving much NIL/revenue share still get a scholarship, right?

I hope so.

 

[DaytonRickster]

They can still get a scholarship, but I do not believe they always do get a full or partial scholarship. The information on all of this is still pretty darn murky. I wish it was better regulated and reported across the college football universe. I have gone back-and-forth on my opinions on all of this. At one point, I thought it was a bit of an equalizer from top to bottom in college football, but now I’m not so sure with the handful of “blank check” billionaire funded programs. There’s the Oregon and Texas schools class. Then there is the ND, OSU, Georgia, etc class of schools rounding out the top 12-15. We’re in the next class, unfortunately from what I’ve read (again, I don’t know, only what I’m reading from actual insiders and donors.) Kraft has done a poor job managing donation efforts between the stadium and nil. I get as frustrated as you do by all of the NIL nonsense.

When will there be transparency from the PSU Administration?

 

[LMTLION]

When will there be transparency from the PSU Administration?

It’s not a matter of transparency from PSU. It’s the lack of transparency in the entire college football model. A single school cannot be fully transparent. That would be competitively shooting themselves in the head to disclose that info when it’s not a requirement for all. And it’s a mix of public and private monies at play as well. It’s all a cluster F.

 

[Anon1771451651]

Yeah I think we have known for about 3-4 weeks Bourque was not coming to PSU.

Bourque is thinking he’s worth more than he really is. $$ buuu bye

 

[Anon1771451651]

Do you notice anything about those power rankings? Well, do ya? Let me help you …. They don’t include any of the NEPSAC schools! Shocker! Why, you ask? Because they aren’t part of MIAA. They don’t play any of those teams.

Good lord. Why do you people celebrate your ignorance?

Can we just have Ashton Kutcher pop out and scream “you’ve been Punk’d” so I can restore my faith in It’s ok Bourque wants big money that why teams have moved off him. The other kid is comparable and will take less. 2 years younger -with moxey and leadership qualities that Bourque will never develop. I’ll put my comparable money on the younger kid with more heart & less $$

 

[LMTLION]

Well, here is a WTF strange twist. The PSU fans crapping on him on social media over the last two weeks may have to reverse course. We sent an entire gang of coaches up to see Wood on Friday and have not landed a commitment yet. Did we get spooked enough to pay up for PB?

 

[LB99]

Adam Gorney from On3 just put in a prediction of Borque to PSU. Let the debate begin….again. No arguing Massachusetts HS football competition please.

 

[TheWizardofCamelot]

No way we get both, right? Right? Right?!?!?

 

[Bison13]

Yes, the players get scholarships even if they’re not the main guys and there are many kids on the roster making under 100 K. Outside of those top freshman a bunch of the kids are told that they’ve got to earn the higher paydays.

 

[LB99]

They can still get a scholarship, but I do not believe they always do get a full or partial scholarship. The information on all of this is still pretty darn murky. I wish it was better regulated and reported across the college football universe. I have gone back-and-forth on my opinions on all of this. At one point, I thought it was a bit of an equalizer from top to bottom in college football, but now I’m not so sure with the handful of “blank check” billionaire funded programs. There’s the Oregon and Texas schools class. Then there is the ND, OSU, Georgia, etc class of schools rounding out the top 12-15. We’re in the next class, unfortunately from what I’ve read (again, I don’t know, only what I’m reading from actual insiders and donors.) Kraft has done a poor job managing donation efforts between the stadium and nil. I get as frustrated as you do by all of the NIL nonsense.

I would find it hard to believe that those without NIL don’t get a scholarship. It would be very hard to maintain a full roster if that was the case.

 

[LB99]

Yes, the players get scholarships even if they’re not the main guys and there are many kids on the roster making under 100 K. Outside of those top freshman a bunch of the kids are told that they’ve got to earn the higher paydays.

I realize you didn’t mean it the way I first read it, but I don’t feel bad for those making under $100k. As a parent paying full tuition, that strikes a nerve with me.

 

[Midnighter]

Well, here is a WTF strange twist. The PSU fans crapping on him on social media over the last two weeks may have to reverse course. We sent an entire gang of coaches up to see Wood on Friday and have not landed a commitment yet. Did we get spooked enough to pay up for PB?

 

[PSU89er]

OK, here my shot at this.

UGa has Jayden Wade committed for 2028. He may be the top recruit in the country next year. They are going to have to pay top dollar for him. They are not going to spend a lot of money on a QB this year.

Everyone has said this is PSU, VT and UGA. It appeared Bourque tried to bring some others in, but it appears ND, OSU and Auburn did not bite.

So Bourque is left with PSU and VT. IS either one really going to spend a boatload of money for a freshman QB, and before someone says Franklin would spend anything to bust on PSU. I have to wonder how much he spent to get Grunk, who would have had other options.

I think if this was 5 years ago, Bourque would already be committed to PSU, but with the money out there and the rumor that Mencl got around three million. Bourque swung for the fence and missed. He's left with PSU/VT and neither one is going to give him close to that amount.

 

[LB99]

OK, here my shot at this.

UGa has Jayden Wade committed for 2028. He may be the top recruit in the country next year. They are going to have to pay top dollar for him. They are not going to spend a lot of money on a QB this year.

Everyone has said this is PSU, VT and UGA. It appeared Bourque tried to bring some others in, but it appears ND, OSU and Auburn did not bite.

So Bourque is left with PSU and VT. IS either one really going to spend a boatload of money for a freshman QB, and before someone says Franklin would spend anything to bust on PSU. I have to wonder how much he spent to get Grunk, who would have had other options.

I think if this was 5 years ago, Bourque would already be committed to PSU, but with the money out there and the rumor that Mencl got around three million. Bourque swung for the fence and missed. He's left with PSU/VT and neither one is going to give him close to that amount.

If it was 5 yrs ago, he would have stayed committed to Michigan.

 

[Moogy]

Well, here is a WTF strange twist. The PSU fans crapping on him on social media over the last two weeks may have to reverse course. We sent an entire gang of coaches up to see Wood on Friday and have not landed a commitment yet. Did we get spooked enough to pay up for PB?

Clearly, Campbell read up on my NEPSAC v. MIAA synopsis and realized his reliance on MaxPreps was misguided. You're welcome. Crisis averted. You can thank me later. At least until tomorrow, when Will Wood becomes the favorite again and then everything flips on its head yet again.

 

[LMTLION]

Clearly, Campbell read up on my NEPSAC v. MIAA synopsis and realized his reliance on MaxPreps was misguided. You're welcome. Crisis averted. You can thank me later. At least until tomorrow, when Will Wood becomes the favorite again and then everything flips on its head yet again.

I was hoping you would have commentary on the subject. I would really like to see both commit to PSU and this debate be settled on the practice field.

 

[LMTLION]

OK, here my shot at this.

UGa has Jayden Wade committed for 2028. He may be the top recruit in the country next year. They are going to have to pay top dollar for him. They are not going to spend a lot of money on a QB this year.

Everyone has said this is PSU, VT and UGA. It appeared Bourque tried to bring some others in, but it appears ND, OSU and Auburn did not bite.

So Bourque is left with PSU and VT. IS either one really going to spend a boatload of money for a freshman QB, and before someone says Franklin would spend anything to bust on PSU. I have to wonder how much he spent to get Grunk, who would have had other options.

I think if this was 5 years ago, Bourque would already be committed to PSU, but with the money out there and the rumor that Mencl got around three million. Bourque swung for the fence and missed. He's left with PSU/VT and neither one is going to give him close to that amount.

I think your guess is as good as any right now. I now wonder if something has spooked them about Wood. Maybe he has a much higher asking price than originally thought, or maybe he’s not willing to commit in the near future and we really need to build a strong bench at QB with two seniors leaving, and Falzone and Evans not yet showing enough to inspire confidence. But who the heck knows.

 

[PSU89er]

If it was 5 yrs ago, he would have stayed committed to Michigan.

Not with the coaching change. That was death to keeping a high level guy committed before NIL was a big deal. Now, Michigan has two recruits that were committed to the prior coach, but both are Michigan HS kids and it looks they are going to stay. The three out of state kids all left the class.

 

[RyanSnyder]

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[PSUForever]

OK, here my shot at this.

UGa has Jayden Wade committed for 2028. He may be the top recruit in the country next year. They are going to have to pay top dollar for him. They are not going to spend a lot of money on a QB this year.

Everyone has said this is PSU, VT and UGA. It appeared Bourque tried to bring some others in, but it appears ND, OSU and Auburn did not bite.

So Bourque is left with PSU and VT. IS either one really going to spend a boatload of money for a freshman QB, and before someone says Franklin would spend anything to bust on PSU. I have to wonder how much he spent to get Grunk, who would have had other options.

I think if this was 5 years ago, Bourque would already be committed to PSU, but with the money out there and the rumor that Mencl got around three million. Bourque swung for the fence and missed. He's left with PSU/VT and neither one is going to give him close to that amount.

These recruiting experts are right a lot with their prognostications. So I'm thinking now Bourque is coming to PSU. Good news but as I have said I am concerned about his mobility and overall fit in the Campbell system. The coaches are the experts so I have to believe they know what they are doing especially with the amount of money involved.

I would love to also land Wood but I wonder if his price is going up because he got the 4 star bump? It is getting late in the cycle so he needs to commit before slots fill up. If Bourque does commit to us I am skeptical Wood commits also but in this modern CFB world of the transfer portal he may figure if he doesn't beat out Bourque then he simply portals.

 

[LMTLION]

The PSU boards do not believe Gorney at all and want him to retract his pick. They think he has been fooled by an agent trying to drive up the bidding between VT and Georgia. The consensus out there is that Wood is the guy we want (pretty strong evidence of that with the staff there on Friday.) It will be interesting to see who is right about this process.

 

[rigi19041]

The PSU boards do not believe Gorney at all and want him to retract his pick. They think he has been fooled by an agent trying to drive up the bidding between VT and Georgia. The consensus out there is that Wood is the guy we want (pretty strong evidence of that with the staff there on Friday.) It will be interesting to see who is right about this process.

Why would psu care if VT and Georgia get in a bidding war?

 

[LMTLION]

Why would psu care if VT and Georgia get in a bidding war?

The thought is that Bourque’s agent fed false info to Gorney to get him to release a PSU pick to drive up the bidding between the two actual interested parties - vt and ga. Again, just repeating what I read from insiders and X. I don’t know if it’s right or not, but it makes some sense in today’s world.

 

[bdgan]

OK, here my shot at this.

UGa has Jayden Wade committed for 2028. He may be the top recruit in the country next year. They are going to have to pay top dollar for him. They are not going to spend a lot of money on a QB this year.

Everyone has said this is PSU, VT and UGA. It appeared Bourque tried to bring some others in, but it appears ND, OSU and Auburn did not bite.

So Bourque is left with PSU and VT. IS either one really going to spend a boatload of money for a freshman QB, and before someone says Franklin would spend anything to bust on PSU. I have to wonder how much he spent to get Grunk, who would have had other options.

I think if this was 5 years ago, Bourque would already be committed to PSU, but with the money out there and the rumor that Mencl got around three million. Bourque swung for the fence and missed. He's left with PSU/VT and neither one is going to give him close to that amount.

• Marion Mass is a lot closer to State College than it is to GA, UM, or VT.
• GA is already loaded at QB with Puglisi (4* 94), Montgomery (4* 92), and possibly Colton Nusmeier
• VT has sophomore Grunkemeyer (4* 95)
• Best chance for early PT is at PSU

PSU has a big problem if they can't attract a player like Bourque because of money. On3 says Bourque's NIL value is $496k.

 

[LaJollaCreek]

• Marion Mass is a lot closer to State College than it is to GA, UM, or VT.
• GA is already loaded at QB with Puglisi (4* 94), Montgomery (4* 92), and possibly Colton Nusmeier
• VT has sophomore Grunkemeyer (4* 95)
• Best chance for early PT is at PSU

PSU has a big problem if they can't attract a player like Bourque because of money. On3 says Bourque's NIL value is $496k.

He hasn't been coming to PSU for a while now and it's not a secret.

 

[Marshall2323]

The $30 mil figure is correct for rev share + NIL, which supposedly places us somewhere around 15th in the country, maybe even slightly lower than that. That probably means we’ll continue recruiting in that same range over time as we did with Franklin, with the hope that Campbell can continue to find those diamonds in the rough type players that he found for ISU. I believe only 50 or 60 of that 105 player roster receive significant financial compensation. The rest get little to no compensation. I believe this is the most popular model in P4.

top 2 on the depth chart brings us to 44 add punter and kicker.....We aren't giving money to incoming Freshman who might not immediately crack the top 2 on the depth chart? My guess would be that if you rounded off to 100 it's more likely that 75 are being compensated. Kraft thought his model would create a splash in the portal. Under compensating your own players only means they enter the portal and you need to pay the same process to replace them. Either way, being 15-20 in cash to offer isn't a fast track to "excellence at the highest level."