2026 Pirates Thread

LB99

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Another fine showing by the bullpen!
Just saw a segment on the MLB Network about potential sellers at the trade deadline. Apparently, the Mets have a decent bullpen and maybe willing to trade a few pitchers.
 

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Just saw a segment on the MLB Network about potential sellers at the trade deadline. Apparently, the Mets have a decent bullpen and maybe willing to trade a few pitchers.
Serious question...are we buyers right now? With each passing week the playoffs seem more and more unlikely.
 

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Serious question...are we buyers right now? With each passing week the playoffs seem more and more unlikely.
I don’t think they know what they are right now. However, the bullpen is clearly the weakest link, so if there’s any chance of improvement at the deadline, that’s it.
 
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I don’t think they know what they are right now. However, the bullpen is clearly the weakest link, so if there’s any chance of improvement at the deadline, that’s it.
Agreed--I think if they can find a couple cheap bullpen arms they might do that but they won't give away any real prospects to add right now.
 
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Pathetic yet again
They are just such a sad sack, pathetic organization in every respect. Coming into this series, the Reds only had won three division games all season and now they’ve won five and three of them are against the Fucs.
 
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They are just such a sad sack, pathetic organization in every respect. Coming into this series, the Reds only had won three division games all season and now they’ve won five and three of them are against the Fucs.
SSDD--it's just unacceptable at this point. We've all been discussing how bad the pen has been for months and the Bucs refuse to do anything about it. I don't know why I still even pay attention.
 
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Flat out f***ing pathetic Organization! The whole bullpen blows, Triolo must have photos on someone as he doesn't belong in the Majors(that we an error on him, the hometown score keeper ruled it a hit) and Kelly is clueless as a Manager! Nutless could care less about winning and Cherington has his orders to avoid adding payroll.
 

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Pathetic yet again
The pitching has been bad all season and especially the bullpen, yet the incompetent GM has done absolutely nothing to bring in outside help. That team has lost so many games this season that they’ve been winning after six innings; it has to be approaching upwards of ten games.
 
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SSDD--it's just unacceptable at this point. We've all been discussing how bad the pen has been for months and the Bucs refuse to do anything about it. I don't know why I still even pay attention.
I just read that they now have blown 23 leads this season, which only is a little half over.
 
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PSUFTG

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My buddy sent me a stat, if games ended after 7 innings, Pitt would be 55-27
Seriously? Get a buddy - who isn't an idiot. Or, don't listen to idiocy.

Obviously not correct (even aside from the outrageousness of the claim, this would also mean there was NEVER a game that was tied through 7 innings. That's kind of a clue?)


Bucs actual record, through 7 innings per game:

37W-36L with 9 ties through 7.

You can look 'em up.
2026 Pittsburgh Pirates Schedule | Baseball-Reference.com


The bullpen has been awful - especially when they have to cover 4 or more innings per game - which has been WAY too often,
But how gonzo (drunk?) - or completely ignorant of the game and how its played- would someone have to be to come up with such a nutty "truth"?
 

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Seriously? Get a buddy - who isn't an idiot. Or, don't listen to idiocy.

Obviously not correct (even aside from the outrageousness of the claim, this would also mean there was NEVER a game that was tied through 7 innings. That's kind of a clue?)


Bucs actual record, through 7 innings per game:

37W-36L with 9 ties through 7.

You can look 'em up.
2026 Pittsburgh Pirates Schedule | Baseball-Reference.com


The bullpen has been awful - especially when they have to cover 4 or more innings per game - which has been WAY too often,
But how gonzo (drunk?) - or completely ignorant of the game and how its played- would someone have to be to come up with such a nutty "truth"?
They just took the 15 blown saves (before yesterday) and changed the record. Maybe they used 14.
 

PSUFTG

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They just took the 15 blown saves (before yesterday) and changed the record. Maybe they used 14.
LOL Probably.

Probably don't even know that "blown saves" does not even mean "game lost"
Obviously, you can and do have "blown saves" in games you win - and games with multiple blown saves on one day, and "blown saves" that occur any inning of the game..... or that some of those are offset with games where you take your own lead late on the way to a win. Etc etc etc etc :)

Sports fans? LOL
 
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KingLando

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LOL Probably.

Probably don't even know that "blown saves" does not even mean "game lost"
Obviously, you can and do have "blown saves" in games you win - and games with multiple blown saves on one day, and "blown saves" that occur any inning of the game..... or that some of those are offset with games where you take your own lead late on the way to a win. Etc etc etc etc :)

Sports fans? LOL
Looks like he got it here
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Which is why it's dangerous to use Social Media lol
 

LB99

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Nice win--thought they were going to blow it again in the 8th lol
I thought they were dead in the water when they fell behind 5-0 to the Phillies high powered offense. I’ll give it to this group…they are scrappy. The bullpen is screaming for help. I hope it isn’t falling on deaf ears in the front office.
 

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I thought they were dead in the water when they fell behind 5-0 to the Phillies high powered offense. I’ll give it to this group…they are scrappy.
Agree. Best offense (not defense) in years.
The bullpen is screaming for help. I hope it isn’t falling on deaf ears in the front office.
Well…they’ve waited so long to address it, can’t say now is the best time. These two weeks will be a challenge. I’ll be satisfied if they can stay .500 by time it is over. Hoping it doesn’t go south fast.
 

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the problem is noone wants to deal right now with any major league caliber arms. The AL sucks and a bunch of bad teams think they are still in it so they aren't sellers yet and in the NL the Rockies and Giant are the only teams besides the Mets that aren't in a wildcard race so they are waiting for the highest bidder. The mets have no idea what to do, but who wants their high priced bums anyhow?

My guess is that we've got about 10 more days of this same scenario, right up until the MLB draft. At that pt a couple teams will bail and might be able to hammer out a deal. MLB teams can only trade for the comp round picks to that goes in to play too.
 
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Never thought I'd be posting in 2026 that the Bucs probably should have traded Skenes when his value was highest before the year because, Jesus, he's mid at best currently
 

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Never thought I'd be posting in 2026 that the Bucs probably should have traded Skenes when his value was highest before the year because, Jesus, he's mid at best currently
Yeah. To be fair. The fielding sucks tonight. Gonzales misplays the throw home trying to get Bohm at the plate allowing two runs to score. The next batter, Turner then hits a 3 R HR. Then Callahan misplays the Harper hit to left field and allows two more runs to score. Atrocious.
 

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Yeah. To be fair. The fielding sucks tonight. Gonzales misplays the throw home trying to get Bohm at the plate allowing two runs to score. The next batter, Turner then hits a 3 R HR. Then Callahan misplays the Harper hit to left field and allows two more runs to score. Atrocious.
It's not all Skenes--I agree with you but he's been a shell of the guy he was last year
 
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Several times, during the Pirates broadcast, they've noted Skenes' velocity is down this years maybe signs of arm fatigue or bigger problem? This team is fools gold-it has enough talent to make the playoffs but the bullpen is atrocious, too much dead weight (Davis, Ozuna, Cook, Triolo, etc.) and ownership that doesn't care for anything other than 💸💸💸💸💸
 

PSUFTG

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Several times, during the Pirates broadcast, they've noted Skenes' velocity is down this years maybe signs of arm fatigue or bigger problem? This team is fools gold-it has enough talent to make the playoffs but the bullpen is atrocious, too much dead weight (Davis, Ozuna, Cook, Triolo, etc.) and ownership that doesn't care for anything other than 💸💸💸💸💸
It is not just his velo being down.

His previously sharp breaking off speed stuff is now - more and more often - nothing but heart of the strike zone floaters, or delivered 3 feet off target.

It is a striking difference from the recent past.

Why? IDK, don't know nearly enough about pitching mechanics to have an educated take on that - but the results are obvious to see. Dramatic changes over just a few months time.
Maybe Skenes will bounce back, but right now this is heading towards the most dramatic and unexpected melt down since Steve Blass (to be clear, the Steve Blass situation was much more dramatic - just saying haven't seen anything worse than this since that time). Even situations like Mark Fydrich and Barry Zito and Mark Prior - other dramatic declines, usually could be directly linked to injury issues.
 

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It is not just his velo being down.

His previously sharp breaking off speed stuff is now - more and more often - nothing but heart of the strike zone floaters, or delivered 3 feet off target.

It is a striking difference from the recent past.

Why? IDK, don't know nearly enough about pitching mechanics to have an educated take on that - but the results are obvious to see. Dramatic changes over just a few months time.
Maybe Skenes will bounce back, but right now this is heading towards the most dramatic and unexpected melt down since Steve Blass (to be clear, the Steve Blass situation was much more dramatic - just saying haven't seen anything worse than this since that time). Even situations like Mark Fydrich and Barry Zito and Mark Prior - other dramatic declines, usually could be directly linked to injury issues.
Dontrelle Willis or Rick Ankiel maybe?
They were both youngish (younger than Blass for sure) when they forgot how to pitch
Agreed--that Skenes isn't as dramatic as a drop but something isn't right