2019 recruiting class...so far

[King Kong]

I'm taking off my rose colored glasses and have stopped drinking the Kool-aid.
Imo the class is okay, not great, not bad so far. Two things come to mind to consider:
4-8 record...this is a good class
Frost reputation & momentum...class is a little disappointing.

I think we have a handful of plyers that could be really really good. I think we have a little more than a handful of players that may eventually be pretty good but a project. This class can certainly compete with the West and with Frosts' coaching will win it more often than not. This class cannot compete for a conference title. I think the fact that we played so poorly for half the season really shot the momentum we had, the fact that UCF is still undefeated doesn't help.

Let's go get some top notch 4* players 3 or 4 of those and a hidden gem 3* could really help us speed up the timeline for competing for BIG titles and a shot at the playoffs. With next years schedule I would be pretty surprised and disappointed if we don't get 10 wins.

 

[Truehuskerfan]

There's a lot I could pick apart in this, but I laugh at the notion that this class can compete with the West and we will win it more often than not with Frost's coaching, but it's not good enough to even compete for the conference title. That's just nonsense. If you're winning the division, you only have to win one more game to win the conference title. It all comes down to that one game. You play better than the other team in that one game, then you've won the title. Any team that is good enough to win the division is good enough to win the conference.

 

[Kato]

Northwestern?

 

[TheBeav815]

Objectively this is a very good class so far and probably the best since Callahan's top class. Consider that two more 4* are expected to sign in Bland and Mills once their academics come through and that could even turn into 4 more 4* if the Pola boys come on board. Pola-Gates could be signed already, he doesn't want his decision announced publicly yet.

That said, it's correct that NU is still looking up at OSU, PSU and UM in terms of recruiting. A simple count of how many 4* and 5* kids each of those schools gets will tell you all you need to know.

This class is a step in the right direction and I'm happy with it. If they can finish strong and flirt with Top-15 status, that's trending the way we want to be going. It needs to continue to improve in 2020 and beyond if NU is going to be in the playoff conversation on a yearly basis.

That's not negotiable, those are the facts. NC winners sign elite classes, period.

 

[Headcard]

The class recruited in one month was impressive. This class coming off a 4-8 record is impressive. I can't wait to see what they can do on the trail, after a successful season.

 

[Truehuskerfan]

Objectively this is a very good class so far and probably the best since Callahan's top class. Consider that two more 4* are expected to sign in Bland and Mills once their academics come through and that could even turn into 4 more 4* if the Pola boys come on board. Pola-Gates could be signed already, he doesn't want his decision announced publicly yet.

That said, it's correct that NU is still looking up at OSU, PSU and UM in terms of recruiting. A simple count of how many 4* and 5* kids each of those schools gets will tell you all you need to know.

This class is a step in the right direction and I'm happy with it. If they can finish strong and flirt with Top-15 status, that's trending the way we want to be going. It needs to continue to improve in 2020 and beyond if NU is going to be in the playoff conversation on a yearly basis.

That's not negotiable, those are the facts. NC winners sign elite classes, period.

I largely agree with this. Nobody is saying this is an elite class that is going to get us into the playoffs, but it's a better class than the original post is giving credit for. I don't think you have to have rose-colored glasses to see this is a really good class(and may get better)-better than just "OK" as the original post says.

 

[Solana Beach Husker]

I largely agree with this. Nobody is saying this is an elite class that is going to get us into the playoffs, but it's a better class than the original post is giving credit for. I don't think you have to have rose-colored glasses to see this is a really good class(and may get better)-better than just "OK" as the original post says.

An elite class is one that has 14-18 4 stars...but in reality we know many of those do not pan out. It is more important that a high % of our most explosive players see the field regularly. Looking at the apparent character of our kids I think we will see a large percentage of this class participate. Juxtapose this class to the calibraska group of kids who demanded quite a bit more attention and had a feux confidence based on HS exploits. This class has a ton of winners, some kids that were recruited by the best programs in the country, and most important...a bunch of kids with stable family situations who are mature and confident in who they are...A top 15 class who gets 80% of its kids to participate as starters or as competitors is superior to a top 5 class who has a ton of transfers and burn-outs. And a top 15 class with high percentage of mature participants can win a conference. Remember, Wisky has won the division and made the BCS multiple times with top 30 classes. One thing we can sure of...Frost didn't promise positions or playing time...and he promises that next year we will bring in guys to replace you. Kids that can deal with that reality, and commit based on that reality or going to be much more adaptable than kids who rely on promises.

 

[TheBeav815]

An elite class is one that has 14-18 4 stars...but in reality we know many of those do not pan out. It is more important that a high % of our most explosive players see the field regularly. Looking at the apparent character of our kids I think we will see a large percentage of this class participate. Juxtapose this class to the calibraska group of kids who demanded quite a bit more attention and had a feux confidence based on HS exploits. This class has a ton of winners, some kids that were recruited by the best programs in the country, and most important...a bunch of kids with stable family situations who are mature and confident in who they are...A top 15 class who gets 80% of its kids to participate as starters or as competitors is superior to a top 5 class who has a ton of transfers and burn-outs. And a top 15 class with high percentage of mature participants can win a conference. Remember, Wisky has won the division and made the BCS multiple times with top 30 classes.

At first I thought that was too high, but looking over the rankings you're probably right. 7 teams would qualify by that metric with that may 4*+ commits on 247's current rankings.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Sorry but I cannot pass up the softball thrown up there. UCF doing well had less than a zero % effect on Nebraska recruiting.

No recruit says, I am looking at Nebraska and Texas, but since UCF is undefeated with a new coach, I am choosing Texas.

 

[Hoosker Du]

If we can get in that Top 15-20 range every year, I won't complain. We have signed 16 guys rated 5.7 or better, which is a pretty large influx of talent. Plus, as Beav said, we will more than likely bring in 2 or 3 more 4-stars, which would bump us up to 19 players of 5.7 or better. That's pretty impressive to me.

 

[dand84]

On rivals we are 18 and 24 on 24/7. Hardly earth-shattering given that Purdue and Wisc are right there as well. All lagging far behind Mich, PSU, and OSU. Although OSU is 12 in one and 26 in the other? WTF? I dunno what to make of it really. I think they got most of their targets and are picking the right people, so I have confidence. Given it is year 2 and we have been 4-8 two years in a row, I can't really complain I guess.

So I guess we wait a few weeks for the dust to settle? I suppose those rankings don't account for grad transers, jucos, etc?

 

[inWV]

On rivals we are 18 and 24 on 24/7. Hardly earth-shattering given that Purdue and Wisc are right there as well. All lagging far behind Mich, PSU, and OSU. Although OSU is 12 in one and 26 in the other? WTF? I dunno what to make of it really. I think they got most of their targets and are picking the right people, so I have confidence. Given it is year 2 and we have been 4-8 two years in a row, I can't really complain I guess.

So I guess we wait a few weeks for the dust to settle? I suppose those rankings don't account for grad transers, jucos, etc?

Ranking wouldn’t take into account the elder Daniels, but JUCOs get ranked. Inside the top 20 per Rivals and I guess we’ll see if Frosts blue chips produce better than Riley’s. The Daniels grad transfer is a really nice get, as he will be part of the NT rotation. Hannah will have the chance to play immediately at ILB.

 

[Headcard]

On rivals we are 18 and 24 on 24/7. Hardly earth-shattering given that Purdue and Wisc are right there as well. All lagging far behind Mich, PSU, and OSU. Although OSU is 12 in one and 26 in the other? WTF? I dunno what to make of it really. I think they got most of their targets and are picking the right people, so I have confidence. Given it is year 2 and we have been 4-8 two years in a row, I can't really complain I guess.

So I guess we wait a few weeks for the dust to settle? I suppose those rankings don't account for grad transers, jucos, etc?

It’s a somewhat irrelevant, but we are 18th on Rivals and 247. We are 24th on the composite, because ESPN has our class lower, but everyone can agree they pretty much suck.

 

[red scowl]

I'm taking off my rose colored glasses and have stopped drinking the Kool-aid.
Imo the class is okay, not great, not bad so far. Two things come to mind to consider:
4-8 record...this is a good class
Frost reputation & momentum...class is a little disappointing.

I think we have a handful of plyers that could be really really good. I think we have a little more than a handful of players that may eventually be pretty good but a project. This class can certainly compete with the West and with Frosts' coaching will win it more often than not. This class cannot compete for a conference title. I think the fact that we played so poorly for half the season really shot the momentum we had, the fact that UCF is still undefeated doesn't help.

Let's go get some top notch 4* players 3 or 4 of those and a hidden gem 3* could really help us speed up the timeline for competing for BIG titles and a shot at the playoffs. With next years schedule I would be pretty surprised and disappointed if we don't get 10 wins.

I don't know how good this class is. I nor will you know, until it has unfolded in a few years.

I like that even the "projects" had some good power five offers I like to see who wants that kid on their team

 

[Huskerwisdom]

A lot of this class is build to provide fodder for Ellis/Duval to work with. For the most part, we weren't looking for finished products, but for high ceiling guys who have potential to play the way we want them to.

Our recruiting, the walk on program and eventually our success is going to be tied to those guys.

 

[z28craz]

If we can get in that Top 15-20 range every year, I won't complain. We have signed 16 guys rated 5.7 or better, which is a pretty large influx of talent. Plus, as Beav said, we will more than likely bring in 2 or 3 more 4-stars, which would bump us up to 19 players of 5.7 or better. That's pretty impressive to me.

This.

The last class that was even comparable to this one was the 2013 class. 25 signed and 17 of the 25 were rated 5.7 or higher. To find a better class you have to go all the way back to that #5 class that Callahan pulled in 2006. This is by no means a National Championship caliber class, but for a program with back to back 4-8 seasons, it’s a very positive step in the right direction. It most certainly is a class that is capable of winning the West, and finishing with a top 25 if no a top 15 result. That’s a good start for Frost’s first full recruiting cycle.

 

[inWV]

This.

The last class that was even comparable to this one was the 2013 class. 25 signed and 17 of the 25 were rated 5.7 or higher. To find a better class you have to go all the way back to that #5 class that Callahan pulled in 2006. This is by no means a National Championship caliber class, but for a program with back to back 4-8 seasons, it’s a very positive step in the right direction. It most certainly is a class that is capable of winning the West, and finishing with a top 25 if no a top 15 result. That’s a good start for Frost’s first full recruiting cycle.

I count nine contributors in the 2013 class, but nine of the 5.7 plus guys were no shows/busts/wash outs, with 5 of the others as well. Over half the class was a write off.

 

[Sodakred]

The team needed more size and speed and it looks like we got both. I think it has been several years since we recruited so many big boys and hopefully they will one day soon bully Iowa.

 

[Solana Beach Husker]

It’s a somewhat irrelevant, but we are 18th on Rivals and 247. We are 24th on the composite, because ESPN has our class lower, but everyone can agree they pretty much suck.

espn doesn't count...18...is pretty good considering an 0-6 start and wins against Minnesota, Illinois, and Michigan State...the worry would be our coaches rely on big seasons for big classes...and that isn't the case...this class is equal or better than any Bo class, without the wins.

 

[HominidHusker]

I have little doubt the disappointing start to the season turned some targets away from us. It’s unfortunate how this year panned out for the seniors and for the impact on recruiting. That said, I expect fully Frost to maximize the roster potential going forward. The upward trend will continue and the recruiting hopefully gets a bump.

 

[planored]

16 of 23 signed are 6'3 or taller, some very big athletic OL, that will add 50lbs by this time next yr. pretty bullish, and I belive 14 or 15 were a 4* on at least 1 of the 3 main recruiting sites. Robinson and Robinson are both up for Offensive and Defensive player of the yr. the offer list was pretty solid for everyone. All in all pretty jazzed about the class, for what I consider yr 1 recruiting for the staff.

 

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

I sometimes think that the correlation between win-loss record and recruiting results is a bit overrated.
A good staff with positive momentum will outweigh a losing record significantly.
Other factors like facilities, support staff, administrative support, program history, fan base, etc etc also factor in.
And also a good recruiting staff to sell that vision to the young men.

Or just throwing a lot of money at them works too.

 

[SoFL Husker]

I'm taking off my rose colored glasses and have stopped drinking the Kool-aid.
Imo the class is okay, not great, not bad so far. Two things come to mind to consider:
4-8 record...this is a good class
Frost reputation & momentum...class is a little disappointing.

I think we have a handful of plyers that could be really really good. I think we have a little more than a handful of players that may eventually be pretty good but a project. This class can certainly compete with the West and with Frosts' coaching will win it more often than not. This class cannot compete for a conference title. I think the fact that we played so poorly for half the season really shot the momentum we had, the fact that UCF is still undefeated doesn't help.

Let's go get some top notch 4* players 3 or 4 of those and a hidden gem 3* could really help us speed up the timeline for competing for BIG titles and a shot at the playoffs. With next years schedule I would be pretty surprised and disappointed if we don't get 10 wins.

Are you phucking kidding me?

Chin has his chess pieces for a real 3-4 defense.

Frost got Wandale.

Pound sand.

 

[SoFL Husker]

I sometimes think that the correlation between win-loss record and recruiting results is a bit overrated.
A good staff with positive momentum will outweigh a losing record significantly.
Other factors like facilities, support staff, administrative support, program history, fan base, etc etc also factor in.
And also a good recruiting staff to sell that vision to the young men.

Or just throwing a lot of money at them works too.

You have no idea. Every 80s player I knew was driving a Z-28.

GBR

 

[SoFL Husker]

The class recruited in one month was impressive. This class coming off a 4-8 record is impressive. I can't wait to see what they can do on the trail, after a successful season.

To flip Wandale and bring home Ty?

Agree.

Wait till we see what's next from HCSF

 

[nebcountry]

20ish in the rankings seems like a level we should be able to routinely achieve. So I'm happy with this class especially coming off a losing season.

 

[Throwbones202]

Riley was able to pull in great recruits and look where that got us. I’m going to hold judgement until SF has a winning season

 

[z28craz]

I count nine contributors in the 2013 class, but nine of the 5.7 plus guys were no shows/busts/wash outs, with 5 of the others as well. Over half the class was a write off.

True. That class had a ton of potential that was a bust. But, Bo has several classes like that. Hopefully Frost’s wash out rate is drastically less than previous classes.

 

[SoFL Husker]

Riley was able to pull in great recruits and look where that got us. I’m going to hold judgement until SF has a winning season

Who were Riley's great recruits?

 

[SoFL Husker]

True. That class had a ton of potential that was a bust. But, Bo has several classes like that. Hopefully Frost’s wash out rate is drastically less than previous classes.

Imagine Bo HC and that Cajun LSU HC as Assistant HC/Head of Recruiting at Nebraska.

Bo would still be here.

 

[Huskerwisdom]

Imagine Bo HC and that Cajun LSU HC as Assistant HC/Head of Recruiting at Nebraska.

Bo would still be here.

I thought he should have hired Coach Sims from that JUCO in Kansas as a recruiter. That guy ran across more NFL talent than we did some years, I think.

Bo was more frustrating because he could recruit when he was focused on a guy, he just didn't do it consistently.

 

[SoFL Husker]

I thought he should have hired Coach Sims from that JUCO in Kansas as a recruiter. That guy ran across more NFL talent than we did some years, I think.

Bo was more frustrating because he could recruit when he was focused on a guy, he just didn't do it consistently.

If this guy were head of recruiting in a Bo regime, we'd have been Top 10 year-in-year-out.

Bo sucked at recruiting. Good HC

 

[SoFL Husker]

BoBot till I die.

I actually liked the way he treated our media/fanbase.

Bunch of morons, piling on, without a clue about The Nebraska Way.

 

[Headcard]

I redact my comments, as there really is no need to rehash this debate, yet again.

 

[SoFL Husker]

I redact my comments, as there really is no need to rehash this debate, yet again.

Who's starting in Chin's 3-4?

Davis twins and Daniels?

That line can't hold the edges, let alone the middle.

So rehash your statement. HCSF will

 

[planored]

Is that you jaw,,SoFlhusker

 

[Headcard]

Who's starting in Chin's 3-4?

Davis twins and Daniels?

That line can't hold the edges, let alone the middle.

So rehash your statement. HCSF will

You right. We need to bring back the good ole days of Cam Merrideth playing DT and giving up 400 yards rushing to one player. That guy was a genius, I’m sure he’s tearing it up at 1AA YSU.

 

[z28craz]

Riley was able to pull in great recruits and look where that got us. I’m going to hold judgement until SF has a winning season

I count 17 4* players that Riley signed. Only 6 panned out. 5 are still on roster and Stanley Morgan is the 6th moving on after a nice career at NU. Of the 5 left, K. Davis, Lamar Jackson, Dismuke and Eric Lee are significant contributors. Jackson and Dismuke still have time to grow and make a solid impact.

When you take into account attrition Riley’s classes were probably worse than Bo’s. IMO, Riley’s recruiting “success” was more smoke and mirrors than anything. He picked up star power with KJJ and the “Calibraska” movement. Cali 4* kids go to Nebraska to resurrect a floundering program. It’s a sexy headline. Too bad it was a lot of talk and not enough action.

 

[SoFL Husker]

Is that you jaw,,SoFlhusker

Lol. That guy threatened me off-line.

No.

 

[SoFL Husker]

I count 17 4* players that Riley signed. Only 6 panned out. 5 are still on roster and Stanley Morgan is the 6th moving on after a nice career at NU. Of the 5 left, K. Davis, Lamar Jackson, Dismuke and Eric Lee are significant contributors. Jackson and Dismuke still have time to grow and make a solid impact.

When you take into account attrition Riley’s classes were probably worse than Bo’s. IMO, Riley’s recruiting “success” was more smoke and mirrors than anything. He picked up star power with KJJ and the “Calibraska” movement. Cali 4* kids go to Nebraska to resurrect a floundering program. It’s a sexy headline. Too bad it was a lot of talk and not enough action.

Where's Tuco?

Are Morgan and Davis Riley recruits?

Seriously, Mike Riley sucked **((. Deal with it.

We were on our way to Chinatown with that guy. The bottom of the barrel.