2017 Signees

[RightOfCenter]

Does anyone have an update on any new enrollees from the 2017? Are there any signees that are definitely not making the grades?

 

[aTotal360]

Just the OL...

 

[57stratdawg]

I'm not sure Suggs makes it. He's the only one I've heard doubtful.

Hear good things on Noah Ellis, but I'm sure everyone is in wait and see.

 

[philduckworth]

Waiting on Elliss, the NT from CO and 3 OL: Richardson, Suggs, and Cooper. Cooper is not going to make it.

So far we have brought in Zero HS O-linemen from last year's class.

 

[Xusuromohses]

Our offensive line under Mullen has been unacceptable. That's the only way to put it. Am I getting to be a victim of raised expectations? Probably. But all position groups have elevated themselves under Mullen except the damned OL (not talking about special teams here), and that's his boy's group. Yeah I know I should be lucky to have a team that got to be #1 and went 10-2 but if the OL had been a little bit stouter we could have won the whole damn thing. You have to look at you weak links here if you want to take the next step.

When the son of an MSU player just absolutely has no interest in your school, you know you suck. Our recruitment of MS JUCO OL is pathetic. This is one big reason I cannot get fired up about MSU football over the long term, and cannot now. Sure we will be better this year and should peak again in 2018 but the house of JUCO cards will likely collapse again because these clowns can't recruit offensive linemen, freaking 23% of your football team. The HEARTBEAT of a football team, anybody who's played football will understand.

Ridiculous.

 

[ababyatemydingo]

Our offensive line under Mullen has been unacceptable. That's the only way to put it. Am I getting to be a victim of raised expectations? Probably. But all position groups have elevated themselves under Mullen except the damned OL (not talking about special teams here), and that's his boy's group. Yeah I know I should be lucky to have a team that got to be #1 and went 10-2 but if the OL had been a little bit stouter we could have won the whole damn thing. You have to look at you weak links here if you want to take the next step.

When the son of an MSU player just absolutely has no interest in your school, you know you suck. Our recruitment of MS JUCO OL is pathetic. This is one big reason I cannot get fired up about MSU football over the long term, and cannot now. Sure we will be better this year and should peak again in 2018 but the house of JUCO cards will likely collapse again because these clowns can't recruit offensive linemen, freaking 23% of your football team. The HEARTBEAT of a football team, anybody who's played football will understand.

Ridiculous.

Feel better?

 

[57stratdawg]

I think the OL talent level and recruiting is significantly higher than it was 4 or 5 years ago. It's time for MSU fans to realize that.

The 2016 MSU OL paid for the 2015 group's performance all year. I expect a solid group this year as well.

 

[Xusuromohses]

Ha, yep. Did venture off into rant mode a little bit.

 

[Xusuromohses]

You do? I'm not trying to argue or anything, it's just surprising to me that someone would see it that way. I'm sure you could do an average star rating of the 2 deep or something to get a semi-objective number.

But one thing is fact - we've missed on multiple OL prospects during the Mullen Era who wanted to come to MSU because of stupid crap.

 

[johnson86-1]

I think the OL talent level and recruiting is significantly higher than it was 4 or 5 years ago. It's time for MSU fans to realize that.

The 2016 MSU OL paid for the 2015 group's performance all year. I expect a solid group this year as well.

Maybe. But that doesn't change the fact that if we get every high school OL in, we still signed less than the average number of high school OL you need to sign just to have an adequate number of prospects, and we did that in a year where we really needed to sign more OL to make up for past failures.

We have signed some better prospects, but we're still flirting with disaster just by our failure to sign enough bodies.

 

[57stratdawg]

We have. Scott Lashley is a starter this year, IMO if we sign him.

But Rankin is a NFL Draftee. Jenkins very easily could as well. That would mean our 2016 OL had at least two, maybe more NFL guys on it. That's not bad.

If we land the OT from Texas, we're as talented as I recall a MSU OL under Mullen.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

I'm a little concerned for the future too, and it's not just the OL. Our DB and WR depth is concerning. We'll be find the next two years but we HAVE to hit on all our guys from last year and this year or it could be trouble.

 

[Xusuromohses]

Agreed. Jackie did this SAME THING.

 

[Xusuromohses]

It could be pondered that Mullen is throwing all his eggs into the 2018 basket, and isn't worried about the future.

 

[57stratdawg]

We've always been solid OG-OC-OG. Finding guys athletic enough to be SEC OTs has been our problem.

 

[kired]

From Daily Journal last week. Suggs, Cooper, Richardson, and Elliss have not enrolled... Jaquavious Collins (DT) is at ICC. The TE we signed late (Powers Warren) and the kicker we signed (Tucker Day) both enrolled the second summer semester.

http://www.djournal.com/sports/two-...cle_d334b627-4f52-5210-b017-6c24e60c35d8.html

 

[BlueRidgeMtns]

Hope that kicker can line up at tackle***