2007 Nevada

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Giving/sharing personal opinions on the NU football program is what this site is centered around. I read and replied to your post after agreeing in part with much of it and being non-committal in other parts. That's the beauty of having an opinion.

As I've stated, I'm in the "prove it" stage. NU beating a good Cincy team got us headed in the right direction, beating the hell out of Akron did nothing to sway my opinion, and beating the hell out of HCU will mean nothing again. Michigan will offer resistance because they are a real opponent and NU will have to play well to win.

NU is still unranked in the Top 25, so those that vote continue to say "prove it." South Florida, Miami, and Fla State (as examples) have come out firing on all cylinders considering their preseason expectations. I have zero doubt if NU beats HCU by 60+ that may creep NU up closer to being ranked, but the rating will happen if NU beats Michigan and does it decisively.

Because teams in the Top 15 to 25 will lose over the next two weeks, I could see NU vault all the way up to maybe 15 or so in one week.

I see this board as an 80-10-10 mix of fans. 80% are almost always gonna see the glass as half full, 10% are in a prove it or a reserved mode, and then 10% are trolls, disgruntled out of program fans or Rhule haters, etc. Everyone has a right to give their opinions and shouldn't have to defend it.

Since opinions are what this site is centered around I assume my opinion that the OP was just searching something to complain about is allowed to.

So your opinion is that winning games decisively rather than squeaking by a La Tech, or at times losing these types of games a la Ga Southern, Northern Illinois, Southern Miss does nothing to make you believe Nebraska is on the right track? Only beating Michigan and doing it decisively is going to get Nebraska ranked?

I will give you USF and Florida St, but Miami was a top 10 team from the jump.

Lastly, it is my opinion that the board is probably closer to 50/50 glass half full and prove it or reserved mode. People like the OP are more worried about waiting for the enevitable collapse than simply believing this year will be different. There are far more in that category than 1 out of 10 fans that you are claiming.

 

[OxfordComma]

You are just tired of just writing "we don't know how good we are" so you searched, in your memory bank, or on the internet to find a game that fit your narrative. To pretend that you don't have an agenda is a bit sanctimonious considering you wrote "I stand behind my one and only point". That is an agenda and pushing a narrative.

Indiana spanked Nebraska's *** last year, they didn't all of a sudden fold the rest of the season. So I can find an example of the opposite just as easily.

You are not Real

 

[Pennsyhuskers]

Since opinions are what this site is centered around I assume my opinion that the OP was just searching something to complain about is allowed to.

So your opinion is that winning games decisively rather than squeaking by a La Tech, or at times losing these types of games a la Ga Southern, Northern Illinois, Southern Miss does nothing to make you believe Nebraska is on the right track? Only beating Michigan and doing it decisively is going to get Nebraska ranked?

I will give you USF and Florida St, but Miami was a top 10 team from the jump.

Lastly, it is my opinion that the board is probably closer to 50/50 glass half full and prove it or reserved mode. People like the OP are more worried about waiting for the enevitable collapse than simply believing this year will be different. There are far more in that category than 1 out of 10 fans that you are claiming.

I am not waiting for the inevitable collapse. That is you, once again, reading into my motives things that aren’t there. Once again … bee in your bonnet. In reality, I think we beat Michigan and will have a great season. I just don’t think beating Akron means a whole lot. I am really looking forward to the Michigan game when beating them will mean a lot.
And yes, you can express your opinions too. Unsupported by the facts as they are.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

I am not waiting for the inevitable collapse. That is you, once again, reading into my motives things that aren’t there. Once again … bee in your bonnet. In reality, I think we beat Michigan and will have a great season. I just don’t think beating Akron means a whole lot. I am really looking forward to the Michigan game when beating them will mean a lot.
And yes, you can express your opinions too. Unsupported by the facts as they are.

You dug up a game from 18 years ago to warn us that just because you blow out a team it doesn't mean you are that good.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

You are not Real

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Since opinions are what this site is centered around I assume my opinion that the OP was just searching something to complain about is allowed to.

So your opinion is that winning games decisively rather than squeaking by a La Tech, or at times losing these types of games a la Ga Southern, Northern Illinois, Southern Miss does nothing to make you believe Nebraska is on the right track? Only beating Michigan and doing it decisively is going to get Nebraska ranked?

I will give you USF and Florida St, but Miami was a top 10 team from the jump.

Lastly, it is my opinion that the board is probably closer to 50/50 glass half full and prove it or reserved mode. People like the OP are more worried about waiting for the enevitable collapse than simply believing this year will be different. There are far more in that category than 1 out of 10 fans that you are claiming.

What difference should it make to you why Pennsy used his example to try to convey his opinion? If his opinion is to not commit and maybe wait for the other shoe to drop is his opinion. I don't see the need for people to justify how they feel about this team.

Back in the day, NU would have gotten a lot of ranking mileage after drilling a crap team like Akron, but we've lost our clout with voters, and for good reason. NU is just one of many FBS teams this year that have drilled inferior opponents, and some teams benefit ranking wise, and others don't. Neither you nor I are involved in the voting, and those who vote are currently saying that beating Akron proves nothing.

Obviously I didn't take a scientific poll on percentages, and neither have you. I say its nowhere near 50-50. You really should have been a reporter cause you love to play "gotcha." Not everything posted on here should be taken literally, including what you post.

You can't put those who have a wait and see/prove it approach in the same mindset as those who are program/Rhule haters because they aren't the same.

 

[Pennsyhuskers]

You dug up a game from 18 years ago to warn us that just because you blow out a team it doesn't mean you are that good.

You keep pointing out that my example is an old one, as if to say that my point is thereby invalidated because the example is outdated or something. Maybe I should have chosen something more recent like Nothwestern blowing out Western Illinois on Saturday. Clearly that does not mean that NW is a good team. They were beaten soundly by Tulane the week before.
Are you claiming that our defeat of Akron proves we are a really good team? That would be a strange claim. My gut says you agree with my point but just object to me having made it. That seems picky. Again … bee in your bonnet.
All I know is that the one legit team we played this year took us to the wire and damn near beat us. So we played one real team that had a losing record the past three years and barely won. We come back and pound Akron into dust and that somehow proves what exactly? That we improved that much in one week or that Akron really really sucks?
We won’t know the answer to that until Michigan.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

What difference should it make to you why Pennsy used his example to try to convey his opinion? If his opinion is to not commit and maybe wait for the other shoe to drop is his opinion. I don't see the need for people to justify how they feel about this team.

Back in the day, NU would have gotten a lot of ranking mileage after drilling a crap team like Akron, but we've lost our clout with voters, and for good reason. NU is just one of many FBS teams this year that have drilled inferior opponents, and some teams benefit ranking wise, and others don't. Neither you nor I are involved in the voting, and those who vote are currently saying that beating Akron proves nothing.

Obviously I didn't take a scientific poll on percentages, and neither have you. I say its nowhere near 50-50. You really should have been a reporter cause you love to play "gotcha." Not everything posted on here should be taken literally, including what you post.

You can't put those who have a wait and see/prove it approach in the same mindset as those who are program/Rhule haters because they aren't the same.

For crying out loud you put numbers to it. Why wouldn't people take it literally. Terms like a majority would have worked.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

For crying out loud you put numbers to it. Why wouldn't people take it literally. Terms like a majority would have worked.

So, if I would have said, "The vast majority are very pro Husker, the rest are split between "prove it" and haters, would that have been more definitive?"

This isn't a fvcking classroom and you're not in charge of setting the narrative on how people express themselves. In the classroom you can tell the kids the only opinion that matters is yours. It doesn't work in here.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

You keep pointing out that my example is an old one, as if to say that my point is thereby invalidated because the example is outdated or something. Maybe I should have chosen something more recent like Nothwestern blowing out Western Illinois on Saturday. Clearly that does not mean that NW is a good team. They were beaten soundly by Tulane the week before.
Are you claiming that our defeat of Akron proves we are a really good team? That would be a strange claim. My gut says you agree with my point but just object to me having made it. That seems picky. Again … bee in your bonnet.
All I know is that the one legit team we played this year took us to the wire and damn near beat us. So we played one real team that had a losing record the past three years and barely won. We come back and pound Akron into dust and that somehow proves what exactly? That we improved that much in one week or that Akron really really sucks?
We won’t know the answer to that until Michigan.

No I am saying that the M.O. of this program has been to play close games against outmatched opponents on occasion and actually lose these pay games on several occasions over the last decade plus. Nebraska had not pitched a shut out since 2009, hadn't scored this many points since 2012 and hadn't eclipsed 700 yards of offense since 2014.

 

[Laner2]

I blame Tampa. He's got shifty eyes.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

So, if I would have said, "The vast majority are very pro Husker, the rest are split between "prove it" and haters, would that have been more definitive?"

This isn't a fvcking classroom and you're not in charge of setting the narrative on how people express themselves. In the classroom you can tell the kids the only opinion that matters is yours. It doesn't work in here.

not definitive at all, actually the opposite, it would have been more subjective than putting actual numbers to it.

Wait, I thought this was a Nebraska football board where opinions are the central theme? My opinion is that when you put specific numbers to something you will likely be questioned a whole lot more than if you used subjective terms like the majority.

I didn't set a narrative, I simply questioned your use of 80-10-10.

So I will continue to post my opinions and question people when they use specific numbers to attempt to prove a point. If you don't like my opinions and posts, you have options to put me on ignore or not reply to my posts. Simple solutions for you.

 

[Pennsyhuskers]

No I am saying that the M.O. of this program has been to play close games against outmatched opponents on occasion and actually lose these pay games on several occasions over the last decade plus. Nebraska had not pitched a shut out since 2009, hadn't scored this many points since 2012 and hadn't eclipsed 700 yards of offense since 2014.

That we have improved under Rhule is something we finally can agree upon. Things have changed and for the better. Rhule has brought in real talent and has instilled a culture. And Raiola’s passing accuracy is amazing. There did seem to be something different about how we played. It passed the eyeball test.
But I do suspect Akron is a truly awful team. I mean it when I say how much I am looking forward to the Michigan game. I have a strong feeling that if we play good defense we will win.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

No I am saying that the M.O. of this program has been to play close games against outmatched opponents on occasion and actually lose these pay games on several occasions over the last decade plus. Nebraska had not pitched a shut out since 2009, hadn't scored this many points since 2012 and hadn't eclipsed 700 yards of offense since 2014.

Not that it matters, but in 2009 NU led the country in rushing defense for the entire season.

This year after 2 games NU is either 93rd or 96th in rushing defense. NU shut out a team that has now been shut out 2 times in 2 games, including that defensive juggernaut Wyoming.

Nebraska's defense is a unit that's a work in progress, some teams like Michigan, Mich St, Minnesota, and Penn State will test this run defense a lot more than Cincy or Akron. If NU can somewhat control Michigan's running game, then we may be onto something meaningful.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

not definitive at all, actually the opposite, it would have been more subjective than putting actual numbers to it.

Wait, I thought this was a Nebraska football board where opinions are the central theme? My opinion is that when you put specific numbers to something you will likely be questioned a whole lot more than if you used subjective terms like the majority.

I didn't set a narrative, I simply questioned your use of 80-10-10.

So I will continue to post my opinions and question people when they use specific numbers to attempt to prove a point. If you don't like my opinions and posts, you have options to put me on ignore or not reply to my posts. Simple solutions for you.

Actually I like going back and forth with you cause it's mainly civil. Typically, those I put on Ignore are just full of sh*t or just want to argue about something meaningless.

I still say its 80-10-10. LOL

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Not that it matters, but in 2009 NU led the country in rushing defense for the entire season.

This year after 2 games NU is either 93rd or 96th in rushing defense. NU shut out a team that has now been shut out 2 times in 2 games, including that defensive juggernaut Wyoming.

Nebraska's defense is a unit that's a work in progress, some teams like Michigan, Mich St, Minnesota, and Penn State will test this run defense a lot more than Cincy or Akron. If NU can somewhat control Michigan's running game, then we may be onto something meaningful.

Great. That doesn't negate the fact that Nebraska had lost several of these types of games over the last 16 years. In those 16 seasons and all of the directional schools and FCS, or other really bad teams have been shut out.

You appear to be assuming Nebraska is going to scheme their defense the same way against Michigan as they did Cincinnati or Akron. In fact, Butler's scheme was vastly different from week 1 to week 2.

 

[dinglefritz]

I did enjoy the win. Got rip roaring drunk drinking Woodford Reserve. My goodness people are triggered easily.

But to answer your question, I did not see anyone on here make exaggerated claims about the meaning of that game. Nor did I make any such claim in my post. In reality I was moved to post what I did by many family members and some friends who were texting me things like “we are back baby!” and so on.

And no, I don’t have football PTSD from a game from long ago. What I do have is a mental reservation about how good we are based on the Akron game because of more recent memories. About ten years worth of recent memories. And I think it is a mental reservation shared by many many other Husker fans who also know that beating Akron does not erase ten years of getting kicked in the nuts.

I am sorry now that I posted anything at all. I am sorry that I thought I had an opinion worth sharing.

I just bought a big jug of Woodford Reserve double oaked at Total Wine and Spirits in the big O. The Spirits manager talked me in to a bourbon distilled by one of Woodford’s old employees. Bondstone distiller’s select. He gave the scoop on when to check with him for Blanton’s but suggested I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between that and Blanton’s. He let me sample it and I love it. It’s a third the price of Blanton’s.

 

[dinglefritz]

You are not Real

Doesn’t sound like the really real TucoSalamanco.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Doesn’t sound like the really real TucoSalamanco.

It is me. I'm sure one of your brothers in law, friends from your wife's work, or someone who went to school with you can verify the fact that it is me.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Great. That doesn't negate the fact that Nebraska had lost several of these types of games over the last 16 years. In those 16 seasons and all of the directional schools and FCS, or other really bad teams have been shut out.

You appear to be assuming Nebraska is going to scheme their defense the same way against Michigan as they did Cincinnati or Akron. In fact, Butler's scheme was vastly different from week 1 to week 2.

I "assume" Butler will try packages to apply as much pressure on Underwood as possible since OU was successful in applying pressure. Thus far, we've put pressure on both Cincy and Akron QB's, the game is likely to be much more like Cincy.

I "assume" Michigan will come into Lincoln thinking they can win the game. Underwood has already played in front of a hostile crowd, so the Huskers will have to earn it.

If the Huskers win, I see no reason they won't vault up to about #15 or so.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

It is me. I'm sure one of your brothers in law, friends from your wife's work, or someone who went to school with you can verify the fact that it is me.

Was that a "gotcha?"

 

[king_kong__]

Great. That doesn't negate the fact that Nebraska had lost several of these types of games over the last 16 years. In those 16 seasons and all of the directional schools and FCS, or other really bad teams have been shut out.

You appear to be assuming Nebraska is going to scheme their defense the same way against Michigan as they did Cincinnati or Akron. In fact, Butler's scheme was vastly different from week 1 to week 2.

Georgia southern and northern ILL weren’t the worst FBS teams in America when we lost to them

Akron is. Literally.

We’ve never lost one of these games, much less “several”.

 

[BugsAreQualityProtein]

What if playing cupcakes before conference play actually works? I remember last year before the Indiana game we were saying how soft their schedule was before they preceded to bend us over a barrel.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Georgia southern and northern ILL weren’t the worst FBS teams in America when we lost to them

Akron is. Literally.

We’ve never lost one of these games, much less “several”.

There were several games to teams that were MAC or Sunbelt that Nebraska lost to over the past 15 years. You are the only one to bring up worst team in America. Regardless, none of the bad teams that Nebraska played since shutting out Arizona in the Holiday Bowl were shut out. Not one.

 

[big red23]

I remember that 2007 game well. We looked great. National media gushing about how this was Callahan’s best team now that he had his QB Sam Keller. And if memory serves Peterson extended Callahan’s contract right after that game.

But we all know what happened next. Turns out that Nevada was not only a bad team, they were actually a horrible team that blew chunks. Beating them badly told us NOTHING about our team. Turns out we sucked. Barely beat a lousy Wake Forest team the next game. Almost lost to Ball State. Got blown out by any team with a pulse.

My point? Akron was shut out last week by Wyoming. They are an absolutely awful team. Beating them 68-0 tells us NOTHING about how good we are. Yes, it was great to see us beat down a lousy team in the way you should beat down a lousy team. And we will probably do the same next week. The only thing these games are good for is home game revenue and 2 wins.

We really and truly won’t know how good we are until we play Michigan. I still think both of our lines are suspect. I think the reality of how good we are right now is closer to what we saw against Cincinnati than doormat Akron. Beat Michigan or lose a close game to Michigan and we will be on our way to a good season. But if we get hammered then let’s just hope 2025 isn’t 2007 again.

One hopeful thing is we have a stud QB who is legit (unlike 2007) and Rhule is a better coach than Callahan and has a better coaching staff.

Go Big Red and let’s beat Michigan in two weeks!

When is the last time Akron lost as bad as they did to Nebraska on Saturday?

This is what chatgpt had to say, so they may suck but we gave them the biggest *** whooping in the last two decades...

The 68-0 loss Akron suffered against Nebraska on Saturday, September 6, 2025, is one of the worst defeats in Akron football history. The last time Akron lost by such a large margin was in 2019, when they lost 69-6 to UMass. However, shutouts of this magnitude are particularly rare for the program—this is Akron’s largest shutout loss since at least the early 2000s, and among their worst ever as an FBS team.
Most Recent Comparable Akron Losses

- 2019:Akron lost to UMass 69-6, which is a 63-point margin but not a shutout.
- 2004: They lost 51-0 to Penn State, which was a 51-point shutout but still not as severe as the 68-0 loss to Nebraska.
- Saturday's 68-0 loss is the largest shutout Akron has suffered in at least two decades and the most lopsided defeat since the 69-6 loss in 2019, though that was not a shutout.

Context and Historical Note

- Akron has historically struggled against top-tier FBS programs, but the Nebraska result stands out for both the margin (68 points) and the fact that it was a true shutout.
- It is widely recognized as one of the most lopsided games in school history.

In summary, Akron has not lost by as many points in a shutout since before 2004, and the only recent loss approaching this margin was their 63-point loss to UMass in 2019—but that was not a shutout

 

[king_kong__]

There were several games to teams that were MAC or Sunbelt that Nebraska lost to over the past 15 years. You are the only one to bring up worst team in America. Regardless, none of the bad teams that Nebraska played since shutting out Arizona in the Holiday Bowl were shut out. Not one.

No, you lumped Akron in with the Ls

If you’re going to post blatantly incorrect things like that, I’m going to challenge you on it

cmon Tuco. Be better

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

No, you lumped Akron in with the Ls

If you’re going to post blatantly incorrect things like that, I’m going to challenge you on it

cmon Tuco. Be better

Nope, I was lumping Akron in with all of the directional and money games for FCS and G5 teams.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Hey Kong, since you decided to join the discussion, your Bears have given up two scores and are now losing. Better get back to your lucky seat.

 

[king_kong__]

Nope, I was lumping Akron in with all of the directional and money games for FCS and G5 teams.

In the same post you said we’ve lost several of these games

we haven’t lost a single one

literally couldn’t have been more wrong

Hey Kong, since you decided to join the discussion, your Bears have given up two scores and are now losing. Better get back to your lucky seat.

Lashing out like a child scorned

typical

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

In the same post you said we’ve lost several of these games

we haven’t lost a single one

literally couldn’t have been more wrong

Lashing out like a child scorned

typical

There were several posts about the FCS teams and the G5 money games that were lost and/or played way to close. That was the conversation.

Nice try though. Great coaching job by Ben there. kick the ball out of bounds, not to the end zone and save the 2 minute warning.

 

[king_kong__]

There were several posts about the FCS teams and the G5 money games that were lost and/or played way to close. That was the conversation.

Nice try though. Great coaching job by Ben there. kick the ball out of bounds, not to the end zone and save the 2 minute warning.

I’m following. Perfect capable of reading.

here’s where you went awry of fact, lumping Akron in with teams that were nothing like them in an attempt to prove your point:

Great. That doesn't negate the fact that Nebraska had lost several of these types of games over the last 16 years.

This, of course, is plain wrong. We’ve never lost to a team like Akron. Ever.

I have nothing wrong with you calling people out for incorrect opinions. So long as you can accept responsibility for posting your own incorrect opinions when corrected (doubtful, you holier-than-thou types despise pointing the thumb and would rather lash out like a spoiled brat).

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

I’m following. Perfect capable of reading.

here’s where you went awry of fact, lumping Akron in with teams that were nothing like them in an attempt to prove your point:

This, of course, is plain wrong. We’ve never lost to a team like Akron. Ever.

I have nothing wrong with you calling people out for incorrect opinions. So long as you can accept responsibility for posting your own incorrect opinions when corrected (doubtful, you holier-than-thou types despise pointing the thumb and would rather lash out like a spoiled brat).

Again the several of these games is in reference to games where Nebraska pays to have FCS and G5 teams come to Lincoln for enough money to run their athletic program. I wrote there were several games against teams coming in for the payday that ended up beating Nebraska. This isn't that hard, you are being obtuse, probably because your NFL team just blew a home game against a divisional opponent.

Southern Miss, Northern Illinois, Troy and Georgia Southern are 4 teams that beat Nebraska in Lincoln that were only going there for the pay day.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Was that a "gotcha?"

Nope, just a dig at Dingle because all of his stories start with someone he knows in a position of power was at an event where something was said that somehow relates to the topic at hand.

 

[king_kong__]

Again the several of these games is in reference to games where Nebraska pays to have FCS and G5 teams come to Lincoln for enough money to run their athletic program. I wrote there were several games against teams coming in for the payday that ended up beating Nebraska. This isn't that hard, you are being obtuse, probably because your NFL team just blew a home game against a divisional opponent.

Southern Miss, Northern Illinois, Troy and Georgia Southern are 4 teams that beat Nebraska in Lincoln that were only going there for the pay day.

I’m not being obtuse. I’m being specific. After all, these are your own words.

This entire discussion began when you picked pennsy’s opinion about the Akron game.

you then tripled down by lumping them in with teams that beat us, all of which would pummel Akron.

It’s okay to be wrong while trying to demonstrably prove a point, Tuco. Been there plenty.

it’s not okay to deny deny deny and try to squirm your way out of your own wrong post. Just put your hand up and set the example you’re demanding of others.

Classic accountability dodging, do as a I say not as I do millennial behavior from a 60+ year old holier than thou blowhard

Wish I was surprised

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

I’m not being obtuse. I’m being specific. After all, these are your own words.

This entire discussion began when you picked pennsy’s opinion about the Akron game.

you then tripled down by lumping them in with teams that beat us, all of which would pummel Akron.

It’s okay to be wrong while trying to demonstrably prove a point, Tuco. Been there plenty.

it’s not okay to deny deny deny and try to squirm your way out of your own wrong post. Just put your hand up and set the example you’re demanding of others.

Classic accountability dodging, do as a I say not as I do millennial behavior from a 60+ year old holier than thou blowhard

Wish I was surprised

You're just deflecting you anger about the Bears loss on me. That's ok I can take it. Better you lash out at me than you kicking the dog or worse.

 

[king_kong__]

You're just deflecting you anger about the Bears loss on me. That's ok I can take it. Better you lash out at me than you kicking the dog or worse.

not at all. I called your incorrect post out before the bears lost. has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand (your incorrect posts).

we have never - literally never - lost to a team the likes of Akron. bad losses, of course. but never to a team that is roundly accepted as the single worst in all of major cfb.

it's always funny to see you bloviate your lectures here knowing you cannot take what you're more than happy dole out.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

It's Ok Konger, there is always next week.

 

[king_kong__]

It's Ok Konger, there is always next week.

looking forward to more of your useless blowhardy nitpicks, Infallible One.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

You're just deflecting you anger about the Bears loss on me. That's ok I can take it. Better you lash out at me than you kicking the dog or worse.

So what are you implying kong would do that's worse than him kicking the dog? I'm curious.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

So what are you implying kong would do that's worse than him kicking the dog? I'm curious.

One never knows. I am just glad he is directing all of his anger at me.