1998 cats vs 2019 cats

Xception

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Apr 17, 2007
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A lot more different than alike

98 had

Strongly anchored post play, blocks & rebounds
A designated spot up three point threat
A heavily experienced and seasoned team
A consistent college star
A reliable and solid pg
They were resilient and did not give up
Fantastic chemistry and selfless play
 

Wildcats1st

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Sep 16, 2017
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A lot more different than alike

98 had

Strongly anchored post play, blocks & rebounds
A designated spot up three point threat
A heavily experienced and seasoned team
A consistent college star
A reliable and solid pg
They were resilient and did not give up
Fantastic chemistry and selfless play

Goes with seasoning but a team that had been to two finals in the 2 years preceding 1998
 

fatguy87

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The biggest difference was at the 5. Nazr was an absolute monster that season and Magloire was an awesome backup.

Otherwise, it's pretty difficult to evaluate the teams position by position. The presence of Heshimu Evans makes it especially tricky since he could play a couple positions and was one of the best players despite coming off the bench.

The 1998 team weren't purveyors of a glamorous style. They mauled opponents in the paint and played Hungry Hungry Hippos on the offensive glass en route to the championship. Cal's teams in general share that same reliance on paint and offensive rebound production so they will often resemble the 1998 team.
 

Madcat62_rivals113839

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Dec 27, 2016
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98 team by about 15 they would dominate the paint shepherd was far more consistent 3 point shooter then any one on this years team.
 

ABlockalypseBrow

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May 26, 2018
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I will say this, this team has a long way to go until they can make that comparison...but it is possible. 1998 played like champions when it mattered most, that’s why we’re still talking about them.
 
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Bungalow Bill

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Apr 8, 2007
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This team is nothing like the '98 team. That team had so much experience. The upper classmen had been to 2 straight championship games with a ring. This teams most experienced contributors have a sweet 16 loss under their belt. We have 5 true freshmen in the rotation with 3 of them starters. Our senior has no tourney experience. I don't see the comparison.
 

STL_Cat

Heisman
Dec 4, 2011
64,878
57,614
98
They are so much different in so many ways. I think you literally just saw 2 white guards and thought they made them similar teams.

Thar being said I hope the result is similar.
 

fs-ripcord65

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Apr 29, 2009
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This team is nothing like the '98 team. That team had so much experience. The upper classmen had been to 2 straight championship games with a ring. This teams most experienced contributors have a sweet 16 loss under their belt. We have 5 true freshmen in the rotation with 3 of them starters. Our senior has no tourney experience. I don't see the comparison.
I agree. I don't see a valid comparison, either.
 

Xception

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I think everybody in this thread agrees 98 is likely the better team, but I want to segue into another point I made about needing a good path. That 98 team was very fortunate with tournament upsets that year as several favorites got unexpectedly beat.

Arizona, UNC, Kansas got beaten by other teams and UK had a seed path of 15,10,6,1,3 and 3 to win a title. So as much as I like 98 they were very lucky and probably wouldn’t have won it all without a lot of upsets.
 

wyomingcat

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Dec 30, 2002
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I sure wish I could feel as confident about this team as I did about the 98 team. Not that similar at all IMHO
 

morgousky

Heisman
Sep 5, 2009
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No similarity. 1998 is the most underrated team in UK history. Cal has actually had some of the most overrated UK teams in history. Not bad teams, but a few are pumped way too hard for what they were. There were Uk teams of the last 30 years that had grown men and would likely put these guys on some of Cals teams against a wall today.
 
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Someone said it. Play like champions. They surely did. If we play like champions. We very well could be 1998 revisited. We have glimpses here there with this team. Lets pray time is now. Play like 2019 champions.
 
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anon_q409idbs5m40a

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A lot more different than alike

98 had

Strongly anchored post play, blocks & rebounds
A designated spot up three point threat
A heavily experienced and seasoned team
A consistent college star
A reliable and solid pg
They were resilient and did not give up
Fantastic chemistry and selfless play
And way better basketball IQ.
 

coachcombs57

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Nov 12, 2017
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This team is only better at the 3 and 4 spots. The 2 is close but the 1 and 5 were much much better in 98. The combo of Nazr and Magloire was very very good. Turner was a very good pg
I remember mimicking WTs jump shot in my driveway when my grandpa wasnt paying attention to get on me about the crappy form lol
 

Xception

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And way better basketball IQ.
But only because of experience, if the 98 team were freshmen then 19 would beat them soundly. Nazr and Padgett played on a created JV team, Mills wasn’t ready. If 19 were seniors then they have just as much group bb iq as 98.
 
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thecatsrock

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All the folks talking about experience should realize talent trumps experience more often than not. I just see a lot of similarities between the two teams. Maybe it’s just wishful thinking that this team could have that magical run like the 98 bunch did.
 

STL_Cat

Heisman
Dec 4, 2011
64,878
57,614
98
All the folks talking about experience should realize talent trumps experience more often than not. I just see a lot of similarities between the two teams. Maybe it’s just wishful thinking that this team could have that magical run like the 98 bunch did.

Name the similarities, please.
 

rhstoess

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A lot more different than alike

98 had

Strongly anchored post play, blocks & rebounds
A designated spot up three point threat
A heavily experienced and seasoned team
A consistent college star
A reliable and solid pg
They were resilient and did not give up
Fantastic chemistry and selfless play

I mean there's a little to be desired in shot blocking, and we arent heavily experienced however I cant be the only one who thinks the rest of those facets could be applied to this years team right?
 

STL_Cat

Heisman
Dec 4, 2011
64,878
57,614
98
I mean there's a little to be desired in shot blocking, and we arent heavily experienced however I cant be the only one who thinks the rest of those facets could be applied to this years team right?

Ashton Hagans ain’t close to Wayne Turner. Not the same ballpark.
 

Xception

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Apr 17, 2007
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I mean there's a little to be desired in shot blocking, and we arent heavily experienced however I cant be the only one who thinks the rest of those facets could be applied to this years team right?
You aren’t the only one, OP agrees with you.
 
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anon_q409idbs5m40a

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But only because of experience, if the 98 team were freshmen then 19 would beat them soundly. Nazr and Padgett played on a created JV team, Mills wasn’t ready. If 19 were seniors then they have just as much group bb iq as 98.
That goes without saying, but I still see Richards as a sophomore doing things that will drive a coach crazy. Yes, the 1998 team was way more fundamentally sound due to the experience level.
 

Titpwhami2014

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I agree, lots of similarities:

- The ‘98 team was quietly having a great season but overshadowed by the Duke-UNC-Arizona lovefest

- Was discounted as a true contender due to an early season shellacking by a Top-5 opponent (Arizona in Maui)

- Had a very balanced scoring attack from its starting 5 (all were a threat to score 20+ on a given night)

- Well defined roles

- Unselfish and clutch play
 
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Titpwhami2014

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Plus 98 team had a 6’9” Scott Padgett that could hit the three or play inside. He would be the x- factor between the two teams.

We currently have a 6’8 power forward who is a better all-around player and can beat you inside or out