No respect from Las Vegas. -19
Bet heavy on RU.
We have covered every game easily this year.
Bet heavy on RU.
We have covered every game easily this year.
-19 Michigan Point Spread
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I think we cover but I don't see much reason for respect, yet.
Respect will come this Saturday
I get your point. We haven't beaten a ranked team yet, but still, we've covered three games in a row. I would think the bookies would pay more attention. They think Ash is still the coach.
I think if our D can keep them under 30 we have a chance. And if we keep them under 30, +19 is a gift.
Stop. The bookies are smarter then all of us. They don't predict wins and loses they predict a line where people will bet to make them money. There is zero disrespect at all.
The opportunity is right there in front of RU. Play competitively and it sets us up well for the remainder of the season.
Seems more than fair to me. We're on the road and haven't done that well against the run. Their QB is good, as is their run game. We'll need some turnovers to make it close.
Michigan is given respect like they are Alabama.
Rutgers is going to score points against them since our Oline is finally coming together.
How come no one is pointing that out?
Rutgers is going to score points against them since our Oline is finally coming together.
How come no one is pointing that out?
Coming together?? We played Delaware!
The books are just trying to make sure even money is bet on both sides .
Three and outs on offense will wear out and kill your defense.
Like wise, your defense not able to get off the field kill you also.
We have to have both sides of the ball play a great game
Sometimes it takes a cupcake game to iron out issues with consistency and togetherness
Yea - you are right:
Wins against 1) Western Michigan 2) Northern Illinois and a bad 3) Washington Team By a combined score of 141 - 34 is so much more impressive than the RU schedule with a combined score of 134 - 34.
I am betting you have not watched a single Michigan game all year - B1G network has certainly impacted you.
Go RU -
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Michigan is controling games and scoring points running the ball 75% of the time. No one has come close to slowing them down, averaging 350ypg on the ground. RU didn't do a great job against the run vs Delaware.
19 makes sense.
19 makes sense.
I think there will be RU money early in the week and then the line will go down to maybe 17- 17 1/2 by kickoff.
Michigan is good. They're markedly better then we are. But as I posted in another thread who did they beat this year?
Northern Illinois - lost to Wyoming. I know they beat Georgia Tech and GT played Clemson tough.
Western Michigan - Sure they beat Pitt, but is Pitt any good? They're 3-1 but their three wins were against two terrible teams (UMass, Austin Peay) and Tennessee. The UT win looks good on paper but their three wins were vs. teams that barely have a pulse (Tenn. Tech, Bowling Green, Chattanooga).
Washington - Another win that looks good on paper but their only win was against Arkansas St and they have a loss to Montana which is comparable to Delaware.
My point is that UM is good but they're not Alabama good. I think we hold our own and this will be a lot closer than many think.
Michigan is good. They're markedly better then we are. But as I posted in another thread who did they beat this year?
Northern Illinois - lost to Wyoming. I know they beat Georgia Tech and GT played Clemson tough.
Western Michigan - Sure they beat Pitt, but is Pitt any good? They're 3-1 but their three wins were against two terrible teams (UMass, Austin Peay) and Tennessee. The UT win looks good on paper but their three wins were vs. teams that barely have a pulse (Tenn. Tech, Bowling Green, Chattanooga).
Washington - Another win that looks good on paper but their only win was against Arkansas St and they have a loss to Montana which is comparable to Delaware.
My point is that UM is good but they're not Alabama good. I think we hold our own and this will be a lot closer than many think.
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I am so confused - according to the consensus on this board Delaware was a classic "trap" game - now we win easily and they are a "cupcake". Please help me understand what changed???
This. The books don't set the spread. The betting public does. It's like that big jar full of jelly beans. Ask a thousand people how many there are, they will give you a thousand different answers, but if you average them all, that result will be really close every time.
Fun fact- in 85% of the games, the spread doesn't even come into play. Either the fave covers, or the dog wins outright.
Oh, no, the spread is usually quite accurate. Fave is short for favorite. So 85% of the time, the favorite covers the spread or the underdog wins outright. Only 15% of the time does the favorite win but not cover the spread. I would bet that number has even dropped in the past few years with all the legal sportsbooks and betting apps opening sports betting up to a huge portion of the public that never got involved in the past.
Rutgers will win straight up.
27 to 24
27 to 24
I think Michigan seeing Ohio State's odd start has encouraged them with the hope they can get the monkey off their backs.
What I mean is if you are going to bet the underdog, it better be because they will win, since 85% of the time, that's the only way the bet on the dog pays. Either they win, or the favorite covers and you lose your money anyway. So a couple of the guys I knew that were big sports bettors used to do was not bother with the points when they liked an underdog and bet the money line. In this game, RU is +700 on the money line, which means if you bet $100 and we win, you win $700. But they have to win outright. So taking RU and the points will result in you winning or losing both bets in 85 out of 100 games. only 15 out of 100 times will you win with the points and lose the bet straight up. Does that make sense?
We ran for 4.2 yards a Cary against an FCS team. An entire squad of kids that didn’t even get 2 stars. #4 was blowing up our soft OL all day. IMO if the O does OK against Michigan it will be because the coaches schemed to hide our weaknesses not because our OL stepped up. Hope I’m wrong.
I’ll take Mich St. again this Saturday.
As far as RU goes the team looks better every week. I have no idea how good Michigan is so I’ll pass on betting this game. 19 seems a bit high and will probably come down a point or 1.5 by game time.
Hopefully RU can get some turnovers and ST magic and beat them.
As far as RU goes the team looks better every week. I have no idea how good Michigan is so I’ll pass on betting this game. 19 seems a bit high and will probably come down a point or 1.5 by game time.
Hopefully RU can get some turnovers and ST magic and beat them.
A Western Michigan team who beat Pitt, who had just beaten Tennessee on the road.
As I noted above the Tennessee win looks good on paper but UT will be lucky if they're bowl eligible. That would only be because their three wins this year are Chattanooga, Tenn. Tech and Bowling Green all of which are below Temple in Sagarin. Plus they still have South Alabama which gives them 4 wins. They would have to beat both South Carolina and Vanderbilt to be bowl eligible. As FL, GA, Ole Miss, KY and Missouri are all likely losses.
Illinois is the only B1G 10 team below Tennessee in Sagarin and Purdue is just about the same level.
Beating Tennessee this year is no big thing.
I don’t disagree on the first part. I think it’s a stretch to say the RU offense struggled though in any way against Delaware. Seemed to me we could move the ball at will.
the only area of concern vs. Delaware was the run defense, but on that, something tells me there was a good amount of home cooking going on in looking the other way / whistle chewing the offensive holding calls. Have to rewatch the game but I find it hard to believe we could stuff Tucker the way we did at Syracuse but couldn’t manage to contain a throw first FCS team’s run attack.
Every game is winnable! Jeez, should we just forfeit the next two weeks to save ourselves???
Major step up in competition for us this weekend. That is what this line indicates. To have a shot, we need to continue the win the takeaway battle by not turning the ball over and keep the penalties to a minimum. Vedral needs to be an effective game manager and make very good decisions.
The OL at best is a work in progress, and our DL is going to need to use speed and scheme to avoid allowing the Michigan OL to get a big push and keep them off our LB's.
While I am not entirely sold on Michigan being ready to win the B-10 particularly after losing Bell, I have no issue with them being a prohibitive favorite this week.
The OL at best is a work in progress, and our DL is going to need to use speed and scheme to avoid allowing the Michigan OL to get a big push and keep them off our LB's.
While I am not entirely sold on Michigan being ready to win the B-10 particularly after losing Bell, I have no issue with them being a prohibitive favorite this week.
Once again the perception that we were having trouble with the run vs. Delaware comes down to two plays: two plays that can't happen this week.
They had 34 carries for 159 yards. But they gained 94 of those yards on just two plays. Throw those out (I know you can't) you've got 32 carries for 65 yards, a 2.03 average, better then we did vs Syracuse (2.6) or Temple (3.1).
Of course Michigan is a whole other talent level but that's why you play the game.