Look JBSmoove, forgot your second handle and now this is your third. Go back over to THR, tell everyone how mean we are and continue to pose as a Duke fan/student.
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How pathetic are you that you need to troll another teams board so much that you create three different usernames in three months, try and pretend you’re a student at said school and then, as if we can’t see your posts at another rivals board, you talk **** about us?
We've only had 3 real OAD classes IMO. 15, 17, and 18. 15 won the title, 17 was derailed by injuries (the gem of the class basically never played) and 18 lost in the Elite 8 in OT. It's REALLY hard to win titles, even when you're the best team. If our recent lack of success is because of the OADs, what happened in 98, 99, 02, 04, and 06? The most recent team we had that was had no OADs and mostly upperclassmen lost in the Elite 8 too. Does that mean it was a huge failure?
Just mad, dude I check rr and inside carolina from time to time and half the page is duke threads. We are the stardard in college basketball and they hate that. Just like jim Calhoun said in the 30 for 30 for Christian, you do turn in to watch duke win or lose.
Haha our Elon buddy
Come on guys, he was just taking care of a sick buddy.
I wasn’t saying you were the troll or pathetic, but the dude that made up his third username in three months, hope that was clear and apologies if you thought that was intended for you. No question I’ll check out other boards. Nothing wrong with that- but damn if it isn’t insane the amount of baloney that people make up about duke our staff and our program. Incredible.
I know, I didn't take as that. Implying that the troll was mad
I know a lot on here don’t care or devalue the regular season title a lot, but I care about it. And I understand that it’s unbalanced and it isn’t round robin, I get all that. All that being said, it’s been 8 years since we won one. That’s depressing as all hell. The regular season title is about consistency all year, something that we haven’t had in forever.
If it was a round robin I totally get it....but unc won it in 2017 and just look at there schedule for that season hell you can count the out of conf schedule as well for that season.
I would normally agree with you but I don't see how the acc tournament holds more weight than the regular season. Having the best record over 18 games is more impressive than doing so for 3-4 games.
Also, UNC in 2017 was one of the top teams in the country and won the national championship.Why are you saying "but unc won in it 2017" as a reason for why regular season isn't that important?
They won the ACC regular season by 2 games with a 14-4 record. Yes, they had a favorable home schedule as it rotates every year. They then had their harder games on the road this year, just as Duke had a favorable ACC schedule this year as opposed to last year.
OOC they played Wisconsin and Ok State in Maui, @ IU (with Anunoby), neutral vs UK, and home vs Tennessee. That's a very solid non conference. In comparison, we played neutral vs Kansas, neutral vs URI , home vs MSU, and neutral vs Florida. Slightly better but acting like UNC played nobody in non conference is awfully biased my man. Take off the blue goggles.
Because you disagree with my objective statements about regular season weight opposed to tourney weight? Nice, Pisgah
This is actually kind of funny. Sorry you can ban him now, I chuckled but now it’s over.
Wow Pisgah, somebody trying to impersonate you. That’s a hell of a compliment.
Haha it was actually a good post but I wanna know who it is and put a stop before he ruins my good name
Pisgah, oh pal, I thought I may have had some of what DukeDenver drinks for a second. Will the real Pisgah please stand up?
I thought Pisgah was just talking to himself. I would talk to myself too, but he wouldn't listen.
Let’s not go that far woh the good name thing. You’re on the Duke Board. Everyone knows we are crazy, egotistical, psychotic, maniacs over here.Haha it was actually a good post but I wanna know who it is and put a stop before he ruins my good name
Haha! Yes true but he wants to be one of us so we may not be too bad
Not going to be a problem this season. Since this is going to be his youngest team ever, Coach K is petitioning the NCAA to allow Duke to play 6 on defense.
K claims that the youth of his team makes for problem defensively, so leniency should be given in these difficult times. The favorable verdict should come our way any day.
As crooked as K is, he may even be able to slip the guy past the refs on offense. He is constantly griping at them, so they probably won't even notice. It's why he makes the big bucks.
Anyway.....
Jones/Goldwire
RJ/Alex
Cam/Jack
Zion/Javin/Robo
Bolden/Vrank
Thats a solid deep squad. Question marks...sure, every team will have them next season but still some developing older guys with another year in the program and continuing to get better.
RJ is the gem...dude can do it all, he should and will play heavy minutes every single game. Tre will see the majority of the PG duties-can Goldwire back up Jones 7-10 mins a game? Or will K put the ball in the hands of Cam/RJ (both are playmakers and underrated passers.
AOC will be the first guard of the bench he can pretty much sub in for any of the 2-4 spots and slide guys down still having good size and length. He might be Dukes best 3 pt shooter next season.
Love the guy but does anyone think Bolden will play 25+mins a night next season? (Double his nightly totoal from even last season) I'm not sure I do some of those minutes could go ti Javin playing the 5 or Jack sliding to the 4 with a combo of the freshmen. Bolden getting right around 20 mins a night I think would sit him great. Give high all out energy for 10 minutes a half-nothing easy at the rim.The defense next season should be better simply because Duke will have better athletes. However, they are freshmen and Cam has been known to be lazy at times-Zion (the competition). Hopefully the guys will play to their strengths. Point is the freshmen are definitely talented as hell, but if they are slacking energy Duke should have the upperclassmen to help balance that out. K could throwout a lineup for 3-5 mins of Jones/AOC/RJ/Jack/Javin and be confident they could hold their own while bringing energy to the court.
Definitely expecting big things again from the freshmen class...but I'll be curious to see how all the others have progressed from now until Nov and how K will use in Alex/Bolden/Javin/Jack/Jordan/ and even Vrank/Robinson next season
Jones/Goldwire
RJ/Alex
Cam/Jack
Zion/Javin/Robo
Bolden/Vrank
Thats a solid deep squad. Question marks...sure, every team will have them next season but still some developing older guys with another year in the program and continuing to get better.
RJ is the gem...dude can do it all, he should and will play heavy minutes every single game. Tre will see the majority of the PG duties-can Goldwire back up Jones 7-10 mins a game? Or will K put the ball in the hands of Cam/RJ (both are playmakers and underrated passers.
AOC will be the first guard of the bench he can pretty much sub in for any of the 2-4 spots and slide guys down still having good size and length. He might be Dukes best 3 pt shooter next season.
Love the guy but does anyone think Bolden will play 25+mins a night next season? (Double his nightly totoal from even last season) I'm not sure I do some of those minutes could go ti Javin playing the 5 or Jack sliding to the 4 with a combo of the freshmen. Bolden getting right around 20 mins a night I think would sit him great. Give high all out energy for 10 minutes a half-nothing easy at the rim.The defense next season should be better simply because Duke will have better athletes. However, they are freshmen and Cam has been known to be lazy at times-Zion (the competition). Hopefully the guys will play to their strengths. Point is the freshmen are definitely talented as hell, but if they are slacking energy Duke should have the upperclassmen to help balance that out. K could throwout a lineup for 3-5 mins of Jones/AOC/RJ/Jack/Javin and be confident they could hold their own while bringing energy to the court.
Definitely expecting big things again from the freshmen class...but I'll be curious to see how all the others have progressed from now until Nov and how K will use in Alex/Bolden/Javin/Jack/Jordan/ and even Vrank/Robinson next season
I like the team for next year without adding anyone else, I kinda think it looks like it'll have good balance and pretty defined roles for everyone.
Tre at point guard, barrett reddish and zion at the 2, 3 and 4 seem like locks. AOC should back up jones barrett and reddish.
Whether Javin or Bolden starts at center will probably change throughout the season and who plays more will probably be determined by the matchup and who's playing better. I expect when Zion sits both of Javin and Bolden will be out there.
Those are the 7 i expect to see, though I'd love to see goldwire, white, robinson and Vrank get some minutes throughout the season. After all the years of watching the team, getting real bench minutes just hasn't been that common. I'm excited for this coming season, probably moreso than any since 2015.
I think (and really hope) the D should be much better and should be able to play man. Jones looks to be a solid defender and all the rest of the starters at least have a lot of length to not get beat off the dribble a lot. I think the PnR defense has really been the issue for quite a while, and at least barrett, reddish, AOC, white and Zion should just be able to switch pretty easily. That really just leaves Javin and Bolden needing to be able to hedge and recover well and I think that's one of Bolden's strengths.
I have high hopes.
Tre at point guard, barrett reddish and zion at the 2, 3 and 4 seem like locks. AOC should back up jones barrett and reddish.
Whether Javin or Bolden starts at center will probably change throughout the season and who plays more will probably be determined by the matchup and who's playing better. I expect when Zion sits both of Javin and Bolden will be out there.
Those are the 7 i expect to see, though I'd love to see goldwire, white, robinson and Vrank get some minutes throughout the season. After all the years of watching the team, getting real bench minutes just hasn't been that common. I'm excited for this coming season, probably moreso than any since 2015.
I think (and really hope) the D should be much better and should be able to play man. Jones looks to be a solid defender and all the rest of the starters at least have a lot of length to not get beat off the dribble a lot. I think the PnR defense has really been the issue for quite a while, and at least barrett, reddish, AOC, white and Zion should just be able to switch pretty easily. That really just leaves Javin and Bolden needing to be able to hedge and recover well and I think that's one of Bolden's strengths.
I have high hopes.
Agreed Alaskan Assassin. Unless we get a last minute surprise it looks like Bolden is back. So Bolden, Javin, AOC, and White all have decent experience and can mentor the freshman. I expect Javin to be a leader this coming year. Keep an eye on Goldwire as well. He has been proving people wrong. I like our team but there are a lot of unknowns, esp. with the freshman. On paper we seem similar to the past few seasons. Langdon is one of my favorite Blue Devils ever btw.
Unfortunately, it's the new reality. I don't think anybody likes it....but what can we do?
The bottom line is winning. The same fans who say we should go away from one-and-done's or just sprinkle one or two in are still going to complain if Duke doesn't win with three- and four-year kids. It's been proven time and time again, and not just on this board.
I, too, miss the days of kids staying three and four years and watching their journey. If we could rewind to those times I have no doubt the majority of fans would be in favor to do so. I know I would. But again, we just live in different times. Once the one-and-done phenomenon goes away we might get some semblance of back to those simpler days.
So who is going to be better: a junior Bolden or a G-League Meeks?
Well the sad truth is unless Bolden helps Duke win the title, I'd have to give the edge to Meeks.
Javin seems to be a very vocal guy. I always see him speaking to teammates when they come off the floor. Obviously he has a very interesting skill set with his height & length. Hope it all clicks for him by at-least Senior season kinda like Zoubek.
Agreed my man! I was surprised to find out Trajan is still Top 15 all time scorer at Durham. An overachiever that was possibly not capable of scoring that last basket against a strong defensive Uconn squad. I think that is definitely one of Coach K's do-overs. I did take a peak at the box score just now and Trajan was 7 of 15 for 28 points. I think Coach rode the hot hand but I think the play required more creativity. Trajan was never a strong driver to the hoop. Uconn had a defensive stopper in Moore too. I'm rambling now about that one play in that one game. I remember the loses more than the wins!
Javin being senior Zoubek is a stretch I believe, due to basic size limitations.
However, Javin being senior Lance Thomas is definitely in play. Pretty similar skill sets, Lance had a mid-range jumper in his arsenal, something Javin can't "yet" do.
I don't think Javin will ever be able to stroke it from 3, given how terrible he was from the outside this year, so I hope we never see him at the SF position again. He needs to always play 4/5 man.
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The funny thing about Javin, was at the beginning of the season it seemed there was confidence in him shooting that 3. If he had it wide open he would shoot it. Similar to Bagley or Carter taking that wide open 3. But I think I’m with you that he just needs to focus on a mid-range jumper before he should even worry about shooting 3’s.
If I remember correctly, Javin as a freshman was supposed to be an athletic 3 and D guy. He had a nice arc on his 3 point shot. When I saw him late in the Tournament this season it looked like he hurt his shoulder or something extreme! Maybe Nate only had him practicing post moves :0. In the Kansas game he converted a couple shots near the key. Odd 180 in his jump shot over the course of one season.
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