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Mark Pope is now 29-27 against high-major teams at Kentucky. If some UK fans want to bring up injuries, fine. but watching tonight and looking at a mostly whole roster.....does it look like anything is going to change? in year three? with another 20M+ spent on a roster.

the pattern is obvious as this point....
 
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UKWildcats1987

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Wildcat_in_DC said:
Mark Pope is now 29-27 against high-major teams at Kentucky. If some UK fans want to bring up injuries, fine. but watching tonight and looking at a mostly whole roster.....does it look like anything is going to change? in year three? with another 20M+ spent on a roster.

the pattern is obvious as this point....
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thats pathetically bad. Also idk why this is n bold lol.
 
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Wildcat_in_DC said:
Mark Pope is now 29-27 against high-major teams at Kentucky. If some UK fans want to bring up injuries, fine. but watching tonight and looking at a mostly whole roster.....does it look like anything is going to change? in year three? with another 20M+ spent on a roster.

the pattern is obvious as this point....
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But for those people, they need to remember injuries are part of the sport. Cal has had many many seasons derailed by injuries. I do think it can be a fair excuse to make if your team has a lot of them. But Cal's were far more detrimental to impeding teams from actually winning something. J-rob being healthy in Pope's first year MAYBE gets us an Elite 8?
 
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Idk what happened to the pope we had year 1, the guy that made adjustments and was actually coaching out there. Now, he stands and watches like a fan but where did the guy year 1 go? Ever see zoom look over for a play?? Ever see pope call something out? When we actually ran a set tonight, we got a good look but that was about 9 possessions total. And thank goodness for zoom or it would have been 30+.
 
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LineSkiCat14 said:
But for those people, they need to remember injuries are part of the sport. Cal has had many many seasons derailed by injuries. I do think it can be a fair excuse to make if your team has a lot of them. But Cal's were far more detrimental to impeding teams from actually winning something. J-rob being healthy in Pope's first year MAYBE gets us an Elite 8?
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I dont think we beat TN a 3rd time even if healthy.

And yeah the pope lovers like jeffy never give cal a pass for not having wcs most of that 2014 ncaa run. We beat uconn if hes healthy. Same with poy n 2015. We go 40 and 0 with him.

But injuries dont matter during the era where we could habe actually won some hardware if healthy.
 
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deplion said:
He needs to find a way to make the tourney (unlikely) and go on a deep miracle run (pretty much impossible) to even be considered for another season here.

Wish Batt would go ahead and make the call now. Why prolong the inevitable?
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for me you decide after the unc game. ku, indiania, wsu, virginia, ul, and unc will tell you what pope will give you. 4-2 should be the minium requirement. 3-3 and its batt's call. anything worse and you unload pope and turn it over to mo williams which will give him 2 games vs cupcakes before conference play.
 
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UKWildcats1987 said:
I dont think we beat TN a 3rd time even if healthy.

And yeah the pope lovers like jeffy never give cal a pass for not having wcs most of that 2014 ncaa run. We beat uconn if hes healthy. Same with poy n 2015. We go 40 and 0 with him.

But injuries dont matter during the era where we could habe actually won some hardware if healthy.
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Fans like that would never mention injuries. They'd never mention games where we got absolutely hosed like the LSU goaltend game. It was always "well if Cal was better at his job we win". Those statements always were insane to me. We could lose to an NBA team and it would be Cal's fault. Whatever I guess. I like to keep it consistent. Pope has had injuries to deal with, and hes also had games where we got an awful whistle. Tonight was a bad whistle but it wouldn't have mattered.

But to your point, losing Nerlens Noel, absolutely nuked Kentucky. He was a top5 recruit and still went 6th overall in the draft. That injury was probably worth like 7 or 8 wins by itself. And we can go down the list.
 
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R.O.T.Muckinfush said:
He's had some good talent. Last years team had some players but the system he runs or lack thereof is incoherent.
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He can't run a coherent system because he continually strikes out on the guys he needs to run the system he wants to run. So he resorts to scrambling last minute to fill a roster with whoever he can get and the pieces don't fit.
 
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Ash Williams said:
bUt HeS oNe Of uS
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We wished them success, but we knew the night he was hired that Barney set them up to fail. I mean the fan base the media even was in full meltdown mode the night they hired Pope in the next day or thereabouts. They had that massive brainwash nostalgia, appealing to people’s emotions, causing a lot of of our fans to totally throw logic out the window.. such as the fact that Pope coached at BYU never wanna NCAA tournament game did nothing to deserve a shot and has been there three years too long. We fired cal because he hadn’t been to a final four. I don’t recall how many years close to 10 years.. Barney would say it’s because cal was flirting with other teams. But that’s BS because cal always done that crap. The Spectre Barney hangs over this program. It’s like a bad fart that clings to everything Barney is.
 
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Wildcat_in_DC said:
Mark Pope is now 29-27 against high-major teams at Kentucky. If some UK fans want to bring up injuries, fine. but watching tonight and looking at a mostly whole roster.....does it look like anything is going to change? in year three? with another 20M+ spent on a roster.

the pattern is obvious as this point....
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13-17 against AP top 25 teams. He's killing it at UK.
 
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UKWildcats1987 said:
Tonight was 15th in barely 2 plus seasons.

Cal didnt lose his 13th game by double digits until like near the end of season 7.

The above is not to advocate for Cal (glad hes gone) n any way but simply a comparison. Since pope likes comparing his first 2 seasons to Cals last few so much.
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Dig this

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That’s a crazy *** stat. And makes it obvious he sucks. Not even competitive. Nothing worse than feeling hopeless and that’s where I’m at with him now
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Exactly, he’s not even competitive.
 
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deplion said:
He needs to find a way to make the tourney (unlikely) and go on a deep miracle run (pretty much impossible) to even be considered for another season here.

Wish Batt would go ahead and make the call now. Why prolong the inevitable?
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It’s not even worth trying for a year 4 now. Just keep the beatdowns coming until a change is made.
 
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Wildcat_in_DC said:
Mark Pope is now 29-27 against high-major teams at Kentucky. If some UK fans want to bring up injuries, fine. but watching tonight and looking at a mostly whole roster.....does it look like anything is going to change? in year three? with another 20M+ spent on a roster.

the pattern is obvious as this point....
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Absolutely insane. Two games above .500 against good teams basically
 
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LineSkiCat14 said:
But for those people, they need to remember injuries are part of the sport. Cal has had many many seasons derailed by injuries. I do think it can be a fair excuse to make if your team has a lot of them. But Cal's were far more detrimental to impeding teams from actually winning something. J-rob being healthy in Pope's first year MAYBE gets us an Elite 8?
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A healthy Robinson, Butler, Carr, and Kriisa would have been a legitimate Final Four contender.
 
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deplion said:
He needs to find a way to make the tourney (unlikely) and go on a deep miracle run (pretty much impossible) to even be considered for another season here.

Wish Batt would go ahead and make the call now. Why prolong the inevitable?
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Making the tournament is definitely likely. I think they still have a lot to prove before I would call even a sweet 16 likely. I have no idea why you think making a move now would be wise other than your desire not to take a chance of him succeeding and crushing your dream of firing him.

Do you honestly think this season has a better chance of success with an assistant as interim coach?
 
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UKWildcats1987 said:
I dont think we beat TN a 3rd time even if healthy.

And yeah the pope lovers like jeffy never give cal a pass for not having wcs most of that 2014 ncaa run. We beat uconn if hes healthy. Same with poy n 2015. We go 40 and 0 with him.

But injuries dont matter during the era where we could habe actually won some hardware if healthy.
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There was every reason to think we beat UTjr a third time if healthy.

I absolutely acknowledge that injuries hindered some of Cal's seasons. While I think having WCS would have been a big benefit in 2014 his poor play against Wisconsin in 2015 was definitely a contributing factor in that loss. Though there is every reason to think a healthy Poythress enhances our chances in 2015 there is no guarantee it would have automatically equaled 40-0.

I think you are definitely misrepresenting who has actually been the injuries and schedule don't matter crowd.
 
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